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Edrich

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Jun 18, 2004, 3:46:53 PM6/18/04
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Parts of the lead flashings on my house have turned a light grey over the
years and also accumulated some dirt markings. Is there a way to clean them
up and inprove their appearance?


Mary Fisher

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Jun 18, 2004, 4:29:16 PM6/18/04
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"Edrich" <n...@email.com> wrote in message
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I can't believe this :-)

Mary
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dave @ stejonda

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Jun 18, 2004, 4:40:24 PM6/18/04
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In message <40d3509c$0$22308$4c56...@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
Fisher <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> writes
One of my neighbours was out at 11.30pm last night cleaning her (already
clean AFAICS) windows frames. She seems to do this weekly.

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Terry D

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Jun 18, 2004, 4:50:30 PM6/18/04
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It's just natural oxidation. Why not paint them black with something like
Hammerite?

It's hard to believe that after thousands of years of civilisation and being
able to send men to the moon (allegedly), that we still have not come up
with anything better than lead flashing and pitched tiled roofs for weather
proofing houses. Then again, why change it if it works?

Terry D.


Mary Fisher

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Jun 18, 2004, 4:54:09 PM6/18/04
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"dave @ stejonda" <stejonda...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> In message <40d3509c$0$22308$4c56...@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
> Fisher <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> writes
> >
> >"Edrich" <n...@email.com> wrote in message
> >news:cavgrd$e1t$1...@hercules.btinternet.com...
> >> Parts of the lead flashings on my house have turned a light grey over
the
> >> years and also accumulated some dirt markings. Is there a way to clean
> >them
> >> up and inprove their appearance?
> >
> >I can't believe this :-)
> >
> One of my neighbours was out at 11.30pm last night cleaning her (already
> clean AFAICS) windows frames. She seems to do this weekly.

Lead window frames?

My next door neighbour gets out his ladder weekly and washes his gutters.

Mary

Terry D

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Jun 18, 2004, 5:03:10 PM6/18/04
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dave @ stejonda wrote:
> In message <40d3509c$0$22308$4c56...@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
> Fisher <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> writes
>>
>> "Edrich" <n...@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:cavgrd$e1t$1...@hercules.btinternet.com...
>>> Parts of the lead flashings on my house have turned a light grey
>>> over the years and also accumulated some dirt markings. Is there a
>>> way to clean them up and inprove their appearance?
>>
>> I can't believe this :-)
>>
> One of my neighbours was out at 11.30pm last night cleaning her
> (already clean AFAICS) windows frames. She seems to do this weekly.

One of my elderly neighbours is out at 8 am every morning sweeping his drive
and picking up the litter deposited by yobs the previous evening. Makes me
feel really ashamed.

I find the latest government directive for motorists very useful.
Apparently, bad drivers now have to display a white flag with a red cross on
their cars. Really bad drivers have to display two. This is proving very
useful to me, as I can give them a very wide berth.

Terry D.


Cicero

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Jun 18, 2004, 5:03:49 PM6/18/04
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"Terry D" <terry.dut...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Mary Fisher wrote:
> > "Edrich" <n...@email.com> wrote in message
> > news:cavgrd$e1t$1...@hercules.btinternet.com...
> >> Parts of the lead flashings on my house have turned a light grey
> >> over the years and also accumulated some dirt markings. Is there a
> >> way to clean them up and inprove their appearance?
> >
><snipped>

=====================
I assume you mean the decorative lead on bay windows etc. If so - buy
'patination oil' at Wickes, B&Q etc. It was shown on a TV programme
recently.

Cic.


Peter Taylor

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Jun 18, 2004, 5:25:05 PM6/18/04
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Edrich wrote

> Parts of the lead flashings on my house have turned a light grey over the
> years and also accumulated some dirt markings. Is there a way to clean them
> up and inprove their appearance?

Edrich, the light grey colour on the flashing is lead oxide. It's called the
patina, and it actually protects the lead from harmful agents such as acid rain
and the sun, so don't remove it. The correct way to improve the appearance is
to apply Lead Patination Oil.

Peter

Steve

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Jun 18, 2004, 5:48:57 PM6/18/04
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"Mary Fisher" <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Where I used to catch the bus to school many moons ago there was this old
man that had concreted and then gloss painted his entire front garden!!
including the path and every morning while we were all waiting for the bus
he used to come out sweep it clean and then (didnt matter if it was raining
or clear) he use to proceded to polish it all with pledge and a duster.

Steve


Dave Plowman

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Jun 18, 2004, 5:41:42 PM6/18/04
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In article <NsJAc.157$z25.70@newsfe4-gui>,

Terry D <terry.dut...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> It's hard to believe that after thousands of years of civilisation and
> being able to send men to the moon (allegedly), that we still have not
> come up with anything better than lead flashing and pitched tiled roofs
> for weather proofing houses. Then again, why change it if it works?

Well, both will last a lifetime under normal circumstances. 'Man made'
materials have a habit of promising long life but not in fact doing so.

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Mary Fisher

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Jun 18, 2004, 6:16:19 PM6/18/04
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"Cicero" <shel...@hellfire.co.uk> wrote in message
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No, he means flashing on his roof.

Mary
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> Cic.
>
>


Owain

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Jun 18, 2004, 6:09:46 PM6/18/04
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"Mary Fisher" wrote
| "dave @ stejonda" wrote
| > Mary Fisher writes
| > >"Edrich" wrote

| > >> Parts of the lead flashings on my house have turned a light grey
| > >> over the years and also accumulated some dirt markings. Is there
| > >> a way to clean them up and inprove their appearance?
| > >I can't believe this :-)

I know, fancy letting them get into that state to start with!

| > One of my neighbours was out at 11.30pm last night cleaning her
| > (already clean AFAICS) windows frames. She seems to do this weekly.
| Lead window frames?
| My next door neighbour gets out his ladder weekly and washes his gutters.

I hope he gives his flashings a quick wipe over too with lead patination oil
while he's up there, save so much trouble in the long run to keep them clean
now.

Owain


Owain

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Jun 18, 2004, 6:11:54 PM6/18/04
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"Terry D" wrote

| One of my elderly neighbours is out at 8 am every morning sweeping
| his drive and picking up the litter deposited by yobs the previous
| evening. Makes me feel really ashamed.

I'm sure he doesn't really expect you to do it for him, although you could
offer to help him with the wheeliebin occasionally if it's heavy.

Owain


Cicero

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Jun 19, 2004, 3:57:12 AM6/19/04
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"Mary Fisher" <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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Cic.


>
> No, he means flashing on his roof.
>
> Mary
> >

======================
How do you know that he means flashing on his roof?

My bay window (and most other houses in my street) has decorative lead
flashing under the top window and I guess that that's what the OP was
referring to.

Cic.


The Natural Philosopher

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Jun 19, 2004, 4:16:44 AM6/19/04
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Edrich wrote:

Yes, but they will turn grey pretty soon afterwards.

Its a lead salt formed under oxidation. All lead turns grey in time.
Leave it. It stops the bit of lead underneath turning grey also...

If its dirty, pressure wash it.

The Natural Philosopher

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Jun 19, 2004, 4:18:10 AM6/19/04
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Terry D wrote:

However the drivers who defy belief are the ones with little fish signs
on the back.


Execute a U turn immediately you see one of these.

> Terry D.
>
>

Mary Fisher

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Jun 19, 2004, 3:50:46 PM6/19/04
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"Cicero" <shel...@hellfire.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> > > =====================
> > > I assume you mean the decorative lead on bay windows etc. If so - buy
> > > 'patination oil' at Wickes, B&Q etc. It was shown on a TV programme
> > > recently.
>
> Cic.
> >
> > No, he means flashing on his roof.
> >
> > Mary
> > >
> ======================
> How do you know that he means flashing on his roof?

Because he said so!

Mary
>


Cicero

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Jun 19, 2004, 5:24:30 PM6/19/04
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"Mary Fisher" <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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My bay window (and most other houses in my street) has decorative lead


flashing under the top window and I guess that that's what the OP was
referring to.

>


> Because he said so!
>
> Mary
> >
>
>

=================

No, he didn't. He said:

"Parts of the lead flashings on my house have turned a light grey over the
years and also accumulated some dirt markings. Is there a way to clean them
up and inprove their appearance?"

That doesn't necessarily mean his *roof* .

Cic.


Edrich

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Jun 20, 2004, 12:27:03 PM6/20/04
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"The Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote in message
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> Yes, but they will turn grey pretty soon afterwards.
>
> Its a lead salt formed under oxidation. All lead turns grey in time.
> Leave it. It stops the bit of lead underneath turning grey also...
>
> If its dirty, pressure wash it.
>


Oh dear I seem to have caused some amusement. I was just hoping for some
advice and ridiculously I thought this might be the place to get it.

Perhaps I am being a little sensitive as some replies did give advice which
was informative and useful. At the risk of provoking further fun at my
expense I will just give some info.

My house has an area of mono pitch roof over a single storey area resulting
in a horizontal flashing where the roof meets the wall. This flashing is
quite visible and it does look a little patchy and tired. I want to improve
the appearance if it is possible. It is not the natural oxidation that
worries me but the uneven effect which I think looks untidy.

This leaves me with a few questions.

Is there any special technique to applying patination oil?

Does it work by removing the oxide or just coating it?

Will the effect last a reasonable time?

Thanks to those who tried to help.


Nick Brooks

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Jun 21, 2004, 11:17:34 AM6/21/04
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The phrase "Get a Life" springs to mind, or am I being too harsh?

Nick Brooks

Cicero

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Jun 23, 2004, 2:40:32 PM6/23/04
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<snipped>

>
> This leaves me with a few questions.
>
> Is there any special technique to applying patination oil?
>
> Does it work by removing the oxide or just coating it?
>
> Will the effect last a reasonable time?
>
>
>
> Thanks to those who tried to help.
>
======================
Light oxidation can be removed by rubbing with a cloth soaked in patination
oil. Heavier deposits need pre-cleaning with wire wool. Try 'Brillo pads' -
they clean more gently than plain wire wool. Try not to scratch the lead too
much.

How long the effect will last depends on local air pollution so you will
have to repeat the treatment from time to time. Since your flashing isn't
really decorative it probably isn't worth doing unless you're very 'house
proud'.

Cic.

Cic.


margaret.b...@gmail.com

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Hhhhh

Laney

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replying to Edrich, Laney wrote:
Use a scourer to clean it and then put some plantation oil to protect it

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Tricky Dicky

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Aug 11, 2019, 6:01:58 PM8/11/19
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Is this a record a reply to a 15 year old post.

Richard

The Natural Philosopher

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On 11/08/2019 23:01, Tricky Dicky wrote:
> Is this a record a reply to a 15 year old post.
>
> Richard
>
Nope. I think we have seen posts answered from the last century


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Heliotrope Smith.

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Cotton plantation? Pineapple plantation? Cannabis plantation, come on give us a clue.

Brian Gaff

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Not if its The home owners club portal its not.
Brian

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Brian Gaff

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He he, one of the problems with lead flashing is how its actually held on in
the first place. Seems odd to me that even now nobody has come up with some
new wonder material for the use. Lead is after all not very nice
environmentally either,I've seen it held on with rusty nails.

AS for why people reply to old posts. Its because they are used to forums
where threads are short lived and often locked. Using Usenet of course is a
whole different way of working and although it is true that on Home Owners
club it is relatively easy to see the date of te post, many do not think to
look for the reason stated above.
Brian

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Dave Plowman (News)

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In article <qir255$nh5$1...@dont-email.me>,
Brian Gaff <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> He he, one of the problems with lead flashing is how its actually held
> on in the first place. Seems odd to me that even now nobody has come up
> with some new wonder material for the use. Lead is after all not very
> nice environmentally either,I've seen it held on with rusty nails.

Lead flashing is normally chased into the wall. If bricks, usually by
stepping it into the mortar between courses. Very satisfying to do.
Plenty alternatives have been used. But done properly, lead can last
hundreds of years.

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