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Am I being an idiot? Bosch GOP-250 velcro sanding sheets.

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MarkG123

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Sep 14, 2013, 10:26:05 AM9/14/13
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Picked up a Bosch GOP-250 multi-tool last year, and it's been amazing (how did I ever survive without this?) However today I have been using the sanding pad with velcro attached sanding sheets today, and I must be doing something wrong, or there is a product fault.

I am changing sanding sheets every 3 minutes, as the velcro is separating from the sandpaper, I then spend another 3 minutes pulling the detached "fluff" from the sanding pad.

What on earth am I doing wrong? I am only sanding skirting!!

Thanks.

Bob Minchin

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Sep 14, 2013, 10:37:43 AM9/14/13
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I have read recently that this sander can generate a lot of heat if used
at full speed. Maybe the abrasive is getting too hot.
I would think the sanding sheets must be at fault. Are they genuine
Bosch ones?
It is not uncommon after heavy use (years) for the hooks to fail on a
sander pad but I've never had the loops detach from the abrasive before.


MarkG123

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Sep 14, 2013, 10:41:48 AM9/14/13
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Is the genuine Bosch pads that come in the box. That's what's weird about it all.

I might contact Bosch and have a whinge and see what they say.

SteveW

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Sep 14, 2013, 12:36:11 PM9/14/13
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I've had that happen with cheap pads, but since yours are Bosch, I
wonder if they age and the glue deteriorates and if so, how fast?

SteveW

Bob Minchin

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Sep 14, 2013, 2:59:08 PM9/14/13
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MarkG123 wrote:
> Is the genuine Bosch pads that come in the box. That's what's weird about it all.
>
> I might contact Bosch and have a whinge and see what they say.
>
Are the pads getting hot in use?

If so turn the speed down a bit

Whinge anyway!

The Medway Handyman

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Sep 14, 2013, 3:07:54 PM9/14/13
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Whilst the Bosch multi tool is a fantastic detail sander, the Velcro
pads are shite. If you find a sanding sheet that sticks, the pad will
wear away in a matter of hours.

A detail sander works at about 12,000pm whereas the Bosch is about 21,000pm.

The reason it sands so well is the speed. The reason detail sanders
'don't' go that fast is because the Velcro can't handle it.



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Stephen

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Sep 14, 2013, 5:04:22 PM9/14/13
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On 14/09/2013 15:26, MarkG123 wrote:
I Have a Bosch GOP 250 too.

I've noticed this issue with the sanding paper.

The sandpaper comes away from the sanding pad after a short while. I
notice that if the sanding paper is a fine grit like 220 or 120 it
produces a very fine dust which then gets betweeen the paper and sanding
pad causing the velcro to fail.

I've foudn two viable solutions:

(a) use a higher grit paper like a 40 or 80 grit

(b) use a proper mouse/delta detail sander.

MarkG123

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Sep 15, 2013, 3:14:45 PM9/15/13
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OK, have an update, I notice some of the hooks looked liked they had melted on the pad, so I picked up a new one for a tenner from screwfix, fitted it and then the detaching sheet problem went away...... for about an hour. Now the next sanding pad's hooks have gone to pot too and the problem is starting to come back, not as bad as originally, but getting there.

Matty F

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Sep 15, 2013, 4:01:56 PM9/15/13
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On Monday, September 16, 2013 7:14:45 AM UTC+12, MarkG123 wrote:

> OK, have an update, I notice some of the hooks looked liked they had melted on the pad, so I picked up a new one for a tenner from screwfix, fitted it and then the detaching sheet problem went away...... for about an hour. Now the next sanding pad's hooks have gone to pot too and the problem is starting to come back, not as bad as originally, but getting there.

I have the same problem with an orbital sander. It worked great for a while, then the pads kept falling off. I bought a new pad and that worked for a while.
If I kept the disk flat it worked for longer.
Now I use a flap wheel on an angle grinder, and that works for ever.

The Other Mike

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Sep 16, 2013, 5:53:08 AM9/16/13
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 07:26:05 -0700 (PDT), MarkG123 <mark.gi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Picked up a Bosch GOP-250 multi-tool last year, and it's been amazing (how did I ever survive without this?) However today I have been using the sanding pad with velcro attached sanding sheets today, and I must be doing something wrong, or there is a product fault.
>
>I am changing sanding sheets every 3 minutes, as the velcro is separating from the sandpaper, I then spend another 3 minutes pulling the detached "fluff" from the sanding pad.
>
>What on earth am I doing wrong? I am only sanding skirting!!

To address a similar problem with a Fein Multimaster many years ago I bought a
new backing plate and reduced the speed of oscillation significantly.

The only time a faster speed is used is with saw blades


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Bob Minchin

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Sep 16, 2013, 6:24:29 AM9/16/13
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I did mention the overheating problem and this is borne out by your
experience with deformed hooks.
Slow down and don't press so hard.

LaMon

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Apr 15, 2017, 9:14:05 PM4/15/17
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replying to MarkG123, LaMon wrote:
I had a bit of a problem at B&Q today, I was accused of breaking/ misusing the
sanding part. When I started to record, little man called security to chuck me
out of the shop. Shocking! Here;s some of the video
https://youtu.be/_wg1Daiq8kA

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dennis@home

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Apr 16, 2017, 5:13:47 AM4/16/17
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On 16/04/2017 02:14, LaMon wrote:
> replying to MarkG123, LaMon wrote:
> I had a bit of a problem at B&Q today, I was accused of breaking/
> misusing the
> sanding part. When I started to record, little man called security to
> chuck me
> out of the shop. Shocking! Here;s some of the video
> https://youtu.be/_wg1Daiq8kA
>

The man had every right to refuse to be recorded and there is no
evidence that permission was asked. Just hope he doesn't take action
over your youtube posting if he sees it.

You melted the teeth on the pad by applying too much pressure and/or
running it too fast.
The teeth are plastic and melt when they get too hot, which they do with
excessive friction.
Using a dust extractor helps as the air cools the pad.

Its exactly the same with all the velcro pads even on the bigger machines.
They will wear out over time anyway and the pads are consumable items
just like the sand paper.

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