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DavidM

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Jan 16, 2011, 2:12:03 PM1/16/11
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An elderly lady that I do odd jobs for has been recommended to have a
safety gate fitted at the top of her stairs (she's in a first floor
flat). Her bedroom door is immediately opposite the top of the stairs
and there's a concern that she might get up in the night and walk out
the bedroom door and forget to turn right or left!

A hinged gate is not really suitable - a bit obstructive when open,
and I think that baby safety gates are too low (she might just tip
over the top). Tried googling but all I get is baby gates.

Any suggestions?

Peter Parry

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Jan 16, 2011, 4:26:53 PM1/16/11
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 19:12:03 +0000, DavidM
<davidm_...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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>Any suggestions?

Try searching on www.remapedia.org.uk we have produced a variety of
such barriers for similar purposes including lifting barriers and
sliding ones. If you don't find anything suitable get in touch and
I'll ask our Panels what they have done recently.


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Peter Parry
www.remapsherts.org.uk

Owain

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Jan 16, 2011, 4:38:56 PM1/16/11
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Social Services sometimes supply these; their Occupational Therapists
could probably suggest a suitable model at least.

The wall mounting baby gates can usually be mounted at any height
desired.

The DLF factsheet notes that a confused person might try to climb over
the barrier which could make things worse.

Here's one made by Remap
http://www.remap-internet.org.uk/remapedia/tiki-index.php?page=Special+stair-gate

Owain

Andy Dingley

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Jan 16, 2011, 5:41:45 PM1/16/11
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On Jan 16, 7:12 pm, DavidM <davidm_uk_no...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> A hinged gate is not really suitable - a bit obstructive when open,

Try Ikea. They do a wooden one that is screwed to the walls either
side, so doesn't need the usual (trip hazard) bar across the floor.

Frank Erskine

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Jan 16, 2011, 6:16:14 PM1/16/11
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:38:56 -0800 (PST), Owain
<spuorg...@gowanhill.com> wrote:

>On Jan 16, 7:12�pm, DavidM <davidm_uk_no...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> An elderly lady that I do odd jobs for has been recommended to have a
>> safety gate fitted at the top of her stairs (she's in a first floor
>> flat). Her bedroom door is immediately opposite the top of the stairs
>> and there's a concern that she might get up in the night and walk out
>> the bedroom door and forget to turn right or left!
>>
>> A hinged gate is not really suitable - a bit obstructive when open,
>> and I think that baby safety gates are too low (she might just tip
>> over the top). Tried googling but all I get is baby gates.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
>Social Services sometimes supply these; their Occupational Therapists
>could probably suggest a suitable model at least.

That's just what I was about to suggest. They're usually quite helpful
even if you just pick their brains for ideas to "do it yourself".

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Frank Erskine
Sunderland

dennis@home

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Jan 16, 2011, 6:23:28 PM1/16/11
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"DavidM" <davidm_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:j7g6j6pnp2pqimvjr...@4ax.com...

I used a folding support rail as used in disabled toilets for my father.
They are far stronger than child safety gates and fold into a small space.
They are not suitable if the user might fall under the rail.

Lobster

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Jan 17, 2011, 2:44:35 AM1/17/11
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On 16/01/2011 19:12, DavidM wrote:
> An elderly lady that I do odd jobs for has been recommended to have a
> safety gate fitted at the top of her stairs (she's in a first floor
> flat). Her bedroom door is immediately opposite the top of the stairs
> and there's a concern that she might get up in the night and walk out
> the bedroom door and forget to turn right or left!

Would a PIR attached to the landing light do the trick, so she wouldn't
be in the dark - or is it more a question of confusion and/or poor vision?

David

DavidM_UK

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Jan 17, 2011, 10:45:14 AM1/17/11
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Thanks all for replies.

It is more a question of confusion/unsteadyness rather than eyesight,
so I think some sort of physical barrier is a better option, but space
is limited as there's also a stair lift chair parked at the top of the
stairs. Some sort of pivoted lifting bar/barrier seems best in terms
of fitting and ease of use, but I'm concious of of the possibilty of
her falling over the top, or under, it.

I'll try DSS and Age UK to see what they say.

David
(using Google as newsgroup seems inaccessible via Virgin Media at
present)

Peter Parry

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Jan 17, 2011, 12:39:29 PM1/17/11
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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:45:14 -0800 (PST), DavidM_UK
<davidm...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jan 17, 7:44 am, Lobster <davidlobsterpot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 16/01/2011 19:12, DavidM wrote:

>> Would a PIR attached to the landing light do the trick, so she wouldn't
>> be in the dark - or is it more a question of confusion and/or poor vision?

PIR turning on a landing light can easily make matters worse. It
tends to disorient elderly frail people as their eyes don't adapt
quickly. If a PIR is used it is often better to switch a low wattage
diffuse light.

>It is more a question of confusion/unsteadyness rather than eyesight,
>so I think some sort of physical barrier is a better option, but space
>is limited as there's also a stair lift chair parked at the top of the
>stairs. Some sort of pivoted lifting bar/barrier seems best in terms
>of fitting and ease of use, but I'm concious of of the possibilty of
>her falling over the top, or under, it.

Have a look at the two pictures attached to
http://www.remap-internet.org.uk/remapedia/tiki-index.php?page=Stair+gate+for+wheelchair+user&highlight=stair%20gate

>I'll try DSS and Age UK to see what they say.

For a formal solution she will need an assessment by an occupational
therapist. Other than standard stair gates they don't have much. The
DLF database is at http://www.dlf.org.uk/content/living-made-easy
but I couldn't find anything useful at a quick look.


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Peter Parry
www.remapsherts.org.uk

Jim K

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Jan 18, 2011, 6:53:10 AM1/18/11
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On Jan 17, 5:39 pm, Peter Parry <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote:

> Have a look at the two pictures attached tohttp://www.remap-internet.org.uk/remapedia/tiki-index.php?page=Stair+...

no pics visible??

Jim K

Terry Casey

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Jan 18, 2011, 7:29:15 AM1/18/11
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In article <eaf27729-0f58-44a8...@i17g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>, jk989898
@gmail.com says...

>
> On Jan 17, 5:39 pm, Peter Parry <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk> wrote:
>
> > Have a look at the two pictures attached tohttp://www.remap-internet.org.uk/remapedia/tiki-index.php?page=Stair+...
>
> no pics visible??
>

Scroll down to the bottom and you find the links to both pictures ...
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Terry

StevoYO2

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Sep 20, 2021, 10:15:05 AM9/20/21
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I was looking for the same thing. The elderly often have balance problems so it is a safety precaution. I'm amazed there is nothing out there and the ones for babies just wouldn't be strong enough

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nightjar

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Sep 20, 2021, 11:49:42 AM9/20/21
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On 20/09/2021 15:15, StevoYO2 wrote:
> I was looking for the same thing. The elderly often have balance
> problems so it is a safety precaution. I'm amazed there is nothing out
> there and the ones for babies just wouldn't be strong enough
>

This is a problem I have thought about, as my path from bedroom to WC
takes me past the top of my stairs often when I am only half awake. I
though of a gate, some of the pet gates are quite strong, but realised
that all I need is a bit of 2 x 4 hinged on the wall that can be dropped
onto the landing handrail, just by the top newel post. If I fall against
it, the hinge will hold one end and the newel post the other.

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Colin Bignell
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