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charles

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Jul 12, 2017, 9:59:47 AM7/12/17
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In article <ok58bs$9li$2...@dont-email.me>,
Jethro_uk <jeth...@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
> Our neighbour has an "extension" which we can see the side of, which
> appears to have an external single wall of breeze blocks. You can tell
> it's breeze blocks, as the rendering on the outside has a mortar pattern
> of ... breeze blocks.

> Is this standard/approved/regular for a UK build ?

> Just curious, as a recent discussion about planning permission made me
> wonder if this was built without ?

there are now a lot of "permitted developments" which don't need planning
permission. How does the mortar pattern on a wall identify it has having
been built of breeze blocks? Could they be thrmatite blocks? or concrete
blocks?

Next doorsd big kitchen - which did have planning permission used
thermalite blocks (or the equivalent) under rendering - as does the room I
am sitting in - built about 45 years ago.

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newshound

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Jul 12, 2017, 11:47:06 AM7/12/17
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On 7/12/2017 2:31 PM, Jethro_uk wrote:
> Our neighbour has an "extension" which we can see the side of, which
> appears to have an external single wall of breeze blocks. You can tell
> it's breeze blocks, as the rendering on the outside has a mortar pattern
> of ... breeze blocks.
>
> Is this standard/approved/regular for a UK build ?
>
> Just curious, as a recent discussion about planning permission made me
> wonder if this was built without ?
>

If you are talking about a recent built, it won't be breeze blocks.

newshound

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Jul 12, 2017, 12:33:34 PM7/12/17
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On 7/12/2017 5:09 PM, Jethro_uk wrote:
> Wall has been there as long as us (15 years).
>
Are you using this as a generic term for "concrete blocks"? In the UK,
the breeze block was a specific dense and very hard block made from
clinker, developed (I think) for the post-WW2 building boom. I've
drilled into quite a few, but have never bought one and I started buying
concrete blocks in the mid 1970's.

How do you know it is single skin? They may be hollow, double thickness
blocks which, rendered and plastered, were probably acceptable for some
domestic construction a few decades ago.

Fredxxx

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Jul 12, 2017, 1:16:15 PM7/12/17
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There are different densities of blocks, some are quite light. I'm
assuming the OP is using a generic term to cover all blocks of this size.

In the OP's case, any build, in this case wall, is permissible after a
year or so as long as it's permitted development. Building control have
one year to discover and insist the wall is brought up to standard.
There are a few exceptions.

newshound

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Jul 12, 2017, 1:19:20 PM7/12/17
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I was going to ask about the "statute of limitations", thanks for this.
Not that I would try to game the system, of course!

Fredxxx

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Jul 12, 2017, 1:26:48 PM7/12/17
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jim

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Jul 12, 2017, 1:32:33 PM7/12/17
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Fredxxx <fre...@nospam.com> Wrote in message:
Either way it's irrelevant now.
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Rod Speed

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Jul 12, 2017, 3:14:52 PM7/12/17
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Jethro_uk <jeth...@hotmailbin.com> wrote

> Our neighbour has an "extension" which we can see the side of,
> which appears to have an external single wall of breeze blocks.

How do you know its an external SINGLE wall of breeze blocks ?

> You can tell it's breeze blocks, as the rendering on
> the outside has a mortar pattern of ... breeze blocks.

Sure, but you don’t know whats further into the house wall wise.

John Rumm

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Jul 12, 2017, 3:42:11 PM7/12/17
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Note that BR and PP are different things. The enforcement window for PP
violations is longer - something like 4 years from (visible) completion
of the build.


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Phil L

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Jul 12, 2017, 4:00:24 PM7/12/17
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Jethro_uk wrote:
> Our neighbour has an "extension" which we can see the side of, which
> appears to have an external single wall of breeze blocks. You can tell
> it's breeze blocks, as the rendering on the outside has a mortar
> pattern of ... breeze blocks.
>
> Is this standard/approved/regular for a UK build ?

Yes, just built four detatched houses like this, although the render isn't
cement render, it's the new k'rend type of coating.

>
> Just curious, as a recent discussion about planning permission made me
> wonder if this was built without ?

It wouldn't make any difference after 15 years and it was there before you
bought your house so presumably you was happy with it then.

It will only affect the seller when he comes to sell, no plans, no
extension, he can either knock off the cost of getting it done properly or
knock it down himself and make good before selling.


Peter Johnson

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Jul 13, 2017, 11:26:47 AM7/13/17
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:59:33 +0100, charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk>
wrote:


>
>there are now a lot of "permitted developments" which don't need planning
>permission.

It's at least 15 years old, which I think is before extensions could
be built without planning permission.
The OP should search his local planning department's website to see if
an application was made, although it is probably too late to do
something about it, as others have pointed out, if it wasn't.
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