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Tips for painting skirting without getting paint onto new laminate flooring?

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steph...@tesco.net

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May 29, 2013, 7:17:05 PM5/29/13
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I have laid laminate flooring in a room. I am about to fit new skirting boards. I then need to paint the new skirting with primer, undercoat and gloss paints.

In the past, when I have done this job before, no matter what, I manage to get paint on the new laminate floor when painting the skirting. I do not use quadrant beading as the laminate flooring goes under the skirting boards.

I have tried sheets of a4 paper slipped in between the skirting and laminate floor. It is not a totally satisfactory solution.

I am now thinking of laying some cut up long strips of polythene dpm when I fit the skirting. Paint and then pull out the strips of dpm.

Comment welcome.

Stephen.

Nightjar

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May 29, 2013, 7:31:36 PM5/29/13
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You can buy rigid plastic strips for exactly that task. I would expect
strips of DPM to be as good, with the added advantage that you can lay
them down everywhere and don't need to keep pulling them out to use on
the next stretch.

I would recommend leaving the strips in place until the final coat of
paint has dried, then running a sharp knife under the edge of the
skirting to cut the paint film before pulling the strips out. With the
purpose made strips, it is usually taking the strips out while the paint
is still wet that spreads paint around.

Colin Bignell

Bob Eager

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May 29, 2013, 7:33:15 PM5/29/13
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Carpet shield is basically that. Been and Queued have it for little more
than a fiver (quite a few pieces).



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Woodworm

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May 29, 2013, 7:36:57 PM5/29/13
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Masking tape? The proper decorators stuff that is, which is easy to lift and
non-absorbent - rather than the el-cheapo stuff that seems to resist removal
and lets the paint thro' to stain whatever is underneath.


harry

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May 30, 2013, 2:32:54 AM5/30/13
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Sellotape/masking tape.

Mathew Newton

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May 30, 2013, 4:14:49 AM5/30/13
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On Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:17:05 AM UTC+1, steph...@tesco.net wrote:

> I have tried sheets of a4 paper slipped in between the skirting and laminate
> floor. It is not a totally satisfactory solution.

Why not? I do that (using newspaper) and it's never an issue. With a barrier between the skirting and flooring I'm not sure how you can manage to stray!

There's always white spirit of course if you do stray, although obviously preferable to not do in the first place.

If paper isn't working for you then I'm not sure why anything else would that will work on the same principle.

stuart noble

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May 30, 2013, 4:38:28 AM5/30/13
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Just learn to do it freehand. Not that difficult, and a hell of a lot faster

polygonum

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May 30, 2013, 4:47:56 AM5/30/13
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On 30/05/2013 00:17, steph...@tesco.net wrote:
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In general, water based paint wipes off smooth surfaces such as laminate
flooring much more easily than oil based. At least your primer and
undercoat could be done in water based and so side-step much of the
issue, even if you insist on oil based for gloss.

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F

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May 30, 2013, 5:05:39 AM5/30/13
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Masking tape?

Overlapping (along the skirting board length) newspaper?

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Tim Watts

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May 30, 2013, 6:02:47 AM5/30/13
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You used to be able to get thin plastic strips, about 2-3ft long by 1.5"
wide - slightly curved in the direction of the short dimension.

These slid under skirting - nominally for use with carpet. Either B&Q or
Homebase.

Failing that switch your A4 paper (too thin and too small) for an A0 or A1
bit of 1mm card (art shop) cut into 3" strips. You should aim to get enough
to do all the skirting at once.

Paint, wait 30 mins-hour, pull car out a few mm to break the paint seal, but
DO NOT remove. Leave until paint is fully set then remove. Should be
reusable a few times.
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Tim Watts

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May 30, 2013, 6:04:09 AM5/30/13
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On Thursday 30 May 2013 00:31 Nightjar wrote in uk.d-i-y:

> On 30/05/2013 00:17, steph...@tesco.net wrote:
>>
>> I have laid laminate flooring in a room. I am about to fit new skirting
>> boards. I then need to paint the new skirting with primer, undercoat and
>> gloss paints.
>>
>> In the past, when I have done this job before, no matter what, I manage
>> to get paint on the new laminate floor when painting the skirting. I do
>> not use quadrant beading as the laminate flooring goes under the skirting
>> boards.
>>
>> I have tried sheets of a4 paper slipped in between the skirting and
>> laminate floor. It is not a totally satisfactory solution.
>>
>> I am now thinking of laying some cut up long strips of polythene dpm when
>> I fit the skirting. Paint and then pull out the strips of dpm.
>
> You can buy rigid plastic strips for exactly that task. I would expect
> strips of DPM to be as good, with the added advantage that you can lay
> them down everywhere and don't need to keep pulling them out to use on
> the next stretch.

Bugger - I'd forgotton DPM when I wrote my last post. Which is stupid as it
is the method I actually used! *sigh*.

Yes - heavy DPM (not DPC) cut into 3-4" strips works a treat.

Tim Watts

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May 30, 2013, 6:05:42 AM5/30/13
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I'd debate that - I can cut a edge on a wall pretty nicely but the
concentration level required is tiring.

I'd rather spend an hour prepping with masking then the actually painting
seems to go twice as fast.

But I'm not a pro...

Jonathan

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May 30, 2013, 6:12:36 AM5/30/13
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On May 30, 9:47 am, polygonum <rmoudndg...@vrod.co.uk> wrote:
The knots come through the water based paint after a while.

Jonathan

charles

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May 30, 2013, 6:14:28 AM5/30/13
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In article <91815a94-cacd-452d...@googlegroups.com>,
<steph...@tesco.net> wrote:

> I have laid laminate flooring in a room. I am about to fit new skirting
> boards. I then need to paint the new skirting with primer, undercoat and
> gloss paints.

> In the past, when I have done this job before, no matter what, I manage
> to get paint on the new laminate floor when painting the skirting. I do
> not use quadrant beading as the laminate flooring goes under the skirting
> boards.

> I have tried sheets of a4 paper slipped in between the skirting and
> laminate floor. It is not a totally satisfactory solution.

I've always used old newspaper held in place with masking tape. Another
tip is not to overload the brush when working near the edge - and use a
small brush.

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Tim Watts

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May 30, 2013, 6:17:20 AM5/30/13
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On Thursday 30 May 2013 11:12 Jonathan wrote in uk.d-i-y:

>
> The knots come through the water based paint after a while.
>
> Jonathan

Knots bleed through oil based paints too -

polygonum

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May 30, 2013, 6:20:08 AM5/30/13
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On 30/05/2013 11:17, Tim Watts wrote:
> On Thursday 30 May 2013 11:12 Jonathan wrote in uk.d-i-y:
>
>>
>> The knots come through the water based paint after a while.
>>
>> Jonathan
>
> Knots bleed through oil based paints too -
>
A bit of knotting does help.

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Roger Mills

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May 30, 2013, 7:13:17 AM5/30/13
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On 30/05/2013 00:17, steph...@tesco.net wrote:
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Why not paint the skirting *before* you fix it to the wall - then stick
it on with Gripfill? If there are any slight gaps where the wall isn't
quite straight, you can fill them with decorator's caulk and touch up
the paintwork after the event.

When fixing it, space it clear of the floor by a tiny bit, using bits of
thin card as spacers. Not only will this allow the laminate to "float"
more easily, but it will also provide a space into which you can insert
some plastic sheeting *next* time the skirting needs painting.
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Bob Minchin

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May 30, 2013, 7:28:41 AM5/30/13
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Doesn't anyone use a "george" any more?? Lasts a lifetime - longer if
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polygonum

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May 30, 2013, 7:29:47 AM5/30/13
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Not since it got knicked by Asda...

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Martin Bonner

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May 30, 2013, 9:24:53 AM5/30/13
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On Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:13:17 PM UTC+1, Roger Mills wrote:
> Why not paint the skirting *before* you fix it to the wall - then stick
> it on with Gripfill? If there are any slight gaps where the wall isn't
> quite straight, you can fill them with decorator's caulk and touch up
> the paintwork after the event.

That's what I'm going to do this weekend. (Even if you decide to screw to the wall, one can always touch up the screw heads afterwards).

> When fixing it, space it clear of the floor by a tiny bit, using bits of
> thin card as spacers. Not only will this allow the laminate to "float"
> more easily, but it will also provide a space into which you can insert
> some plastic sheeting *next* time the skirting needs painting.

Oooh! *That* is a neat trick. Thank you.

Bob Eager

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May 30, 2013, 9:47:34 AM5/30/13
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On Thu, 30 May 2013 11:02:47 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

> On Thursday 30 May 2013 00:17 steph...@tesco.net wrote in uk.d-i-y:
>
>
>> I have laid laminate flooring in a room. I am about to fit new skirting
>> boards. I then need to paint the new skirting with primer, undercoat
>> and gloss paints.
>>
>> In the past, when I have done this job before, no matter what, I manage
>> to get paint on the new laminate floor when painting the skirting. I do
>> not use quadrant beading as the laminate flooring goes under the
>> skirting boards.
>>
>> I have tried sheets of a4 paper slipped in between the skirting and
>> laminate floor. It is not a totally satisfactory solution.
>>
>> I am now thinking of laying some cut up long strips of polythene dpm
>> when I fit the skirting. Paint and then pull out the strips of dpm.
>>
>> Comment welcome.
>>
>> Stephen.
>
> You used to be able to get thin plastic strips, about 2-3ft long by 1.5"
> wide - slightly curved in the direction of the short dimension.
>
> These slid under skirting - nominally for use with carpet. Either B&Q or
> Homebase.

That's the stuff I mentioned before. Here:

http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/decorating-supplies/treatments-cleaners-
protection/protective_covers___clothing/-specificproducttype-paint_guards/
Stanley-Carpet-Shield-9254621?skuId=9262320

Mr Pounder

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May 30, 2013, 1:23:19 PM5/30/13
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anjela simpson

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replying to Woodworm, anjela simpson wrote:
I cant get masking tape to stick to my lino flooring,so I can paint my
skirting boards,?

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Brian Gaff

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Jul 9, 2019, 2:55:35 AM7/9/19
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Well this thread has whiskers, but as this is in fact a new post, I guess
I'll answer.
I can only say this, if you use decent masking tape it should stick enough
to stop the paint problem. You don't want it to stick so hard that the
problem then is left over glue and bits of masking tape. If you have waxed
the laminate that might be why its not adhering very well. It will need a
clean and dry around the part you need the tape to stick to.
I have to say there is no 100 percent way to avoid paint on the laminate as
paint can get on the painter and be transferred to the floor. The best you
can do is look very carefully after every session and clean it up before it
goes hard. This takes me back many years to when my eyes worked, I have to
say painting skirting boards is one task I do not miss one bit!
Brian

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Rod Speed

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She' talking about LINO, not laminate.

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alan_m

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On 08/07/2019 18:44, anjela simpson wrote:
> replying to Woodworm, anjela simpson wrote:
> I cant get masking tape to stick to my lino flooring,so I can paint my
> skirting boards,?
>


Often the problem with making tape is its age. In my experience
traditional masking tape has a short shelf life where the properties of
the glue remain viable. Try some fresh tape or consider some of the
other types of tape.

https://www.toolstation.com/painting-decorating/masking-tape/c485

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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

> She' talking about LINO, not laminate.

Doesn't change a thing about his argument that the laminate (or lino) might
be waxed, you auto-contradicting senile Ozzietard!

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The Natural Philosopher

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On 09/07/2019 10:12, alan_m wrote:
> On 08/07/2019 18:44, anjela simpson wrote:
>> replying to Woodworm, anjela simpson wrote:
>> I cant get masking tape to stick to my lino flooring,so I can paint my
>> skirting boards,?
>>
>
>
> Often the problem with making tape is its age. In my experience
> traditional masking tape has a short shelf life where the properties of
> the glue remain viable. Try some fresh tape or consider some of the
> other types of tape.
>
> https://www.toolstation.com/painting-decorating/masking-tape/c485
>
I've been using pro-dec tape and it sticks to everything that isn't
dusty - even carpet!

Well enough to protect against a paint brush anyway.


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"The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 09/07/2019 10:12, alan_m wrote:
>> On 08/07/2019 18:44, anjela simpson wrote:
>>> replying to Woodworm, anjela simpson wrote:
>>> I cant get masking tape to stick to my lino flooring,so I can paint my
>>> skirting boards,?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Often the problem with making tape is its age. In my experience
>> traditional masking tape has a short shelf life where the properties of
>> the glue remain viable. Try some fresh tape or consider some of the other
>> types of tape.
>>
>> https://www.toolstation.com/painting-decorating/masking-tape/c485
>>
> I've been using pro-dec tape and it sticks to everything that isn't
> dusty - even carpet!
>
> Well enough to protect against a paint brush anyway.

The problem I get with masking tape is that paint tends to seep between the
tape and the wall that is being protected, or else when you remove the tape
after the paint has dried, it takes off flakes of paint on the wall where
you want it because the paint has set in a meniscus that spans the wall and
the tape. Is the advice usually to remove the tape before the paint has
dried?

Tim Lamb

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Or run a blade along the join? Probably helps to not paint next to the
tape with a fully loaded brush.
>

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On 09/07/2019 11:24, NY wrote:
> "The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:qg1pqu$ulq$2...@dont-email.me...
>> On 09/07/2019 10:12, alan_m wrote:
>>> On 08/07/2019 18:44, anjela simpson wrote:
>>>> replying to Woodworm, anjela simpson wrote:
>>>> I cant get masking tape to stick to my lino flooring,so I can paint my
>>>> skirting boards,?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Often the problem with making tape is its age. In my experience
>>> traditional masking tape has a short shelf life where the properties
>>> of the glue remain viable. Try some fresh tape or consider some of
>>> the other types of tape.
>>>
>>> https://www.toolstation.com/painting-decorating/masking-tape/c485
>>>
>> I've been using pro-dec tape and it sticks to everything that isn't
>> dusty - even carpet!
>>
>> Well enough to protect against a paint brush anyway.
>
> The problem I get with masking tape is that paint tends to seep between
> the tape and the wall that is being protected,

use good tape well pressed down..

or else when you remove
> the tape after the paint has dried, it takes off flakes of paint on the
> wall where you want it because the paint has set in a meniscus that
> spans the wall and the tape. Is the advice usually to remove the tape
> before the paint has dried?

yes.


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>The problem I get with masking tape is that paint tends to seep between the
>tape and the wall that is being protected, or else when you remove the tape
>after the paint has dried, it takes off flakes of paint on the wall where
>you want it because the paint has set in a meniscus that spans the wall and
>the tape. Is the advice usually to remove the tape before the paint has
>dried?

Yes

Richard

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Jul 9, 2019, 12:05:49 PM7/9/19
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On Monday, 8 July 2019 18:44:05 UTC+1, anjela simpson wrote:
> replying to Woodworm, anjela simpson wrote:
> I cant get masking tape to stick to my lino flooring,so I can paint my
> skirting boards,?

Another option is cut a plastic bottle into strips. Shove em under, paint, pull out. Either don't paint enough to cause dripping, or leave em until until drip risk over.


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Jul 9, 2019, 12:35:46 PM7/9/19
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I've used slats from old venetian blinds.

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platic inserts in binders work


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