Rawlplastic ?

[charles]

What modern stuff replaces Rawlplastic ?

I have ragged holes where 2 plugs, holding a curtain rail, have pulled out
of old plaster and I need to refix? If it was just filling the hole, that's
no problem, but I need to insert plugs and re-screw the brackets in place.

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[Clive Arthur]

On 10/02/2023 08:48, charles wrote:
> What modern stuff replaces Rawlplastic ?
>
> I have ragged holes where 2 plugs, holding a curtain rail, have pulled out
> of old plaster and I need to refix? If it was just filling the hole, that's
> no problem, but I need to insert plugs and re-screw the brackets in place.
>

If you have a hot-melt glue gun, fill the holes with glue and push a
plug in while it's molten. Then run your thumb under a cold tap for a
minute or so.

This works very well and is quick.

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[Andy Burns]

charles wrote:

> What modern stuff replaces Rawlplastic ?
>
> I have ragged holes where 2 plugs, holding a curtain rail, have pulled out
> of old plaster and I need to refix? If it was just filling the hole, that's
> no problem, but I need to insert plugs and re-screw the brackets in place.

I think this is the same stuff I have an ancient packet of, which was
good for filling then re-drilling quickly afterwards

<https://www.wilko.com/polycell-2kg-quick-set-cement/p/0288364>

part of the description on the wilko website seems to belong to a
different product? "Can be used as a two product system
For use on heavily rotten wood and large areas of decay."

[SteveW]

On 10/02/2023 08:48, charles wrote:

> What modern stuff replaces Rawlplastic ?
>
> I have ragged holes where 2 plugs, holding a curtain rail, have pulled out
> of old plaster and I need to refix? If it was just filling the hole, that's
> no problem, but I need to insert plugs and re-screw the brackets in place.

I gave up after having to do that a nuymber of times over the years.
Whatever I used came loose again after a while. The offending rail is
now held up with far longer screws, screwed right into the catnic - it's
going nowhere!

[alan_m]

If the plaster is from possibly 50+ years ago I've found that it's
better to make the hole much larger, seal round the inside with PVA
and letting it dry before filling. Then after drilling for a new plug
select a better quality one and possibly not one of those generic
red/yellow/brown/blue that that you often find in pound shops.

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[Brian]

charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> What modern stuff replaces Rawlplastic ?
>
> I have ragged holes where 2 plugs, holding a curtain rail, have pulled out
> of old plaster and I need to refix? If it was just filling the hole, that's
> no problem, but I need to insert plugs and re-screw the brackets in place.
>

Blow the dust / debris out of the holes.

No More Nails in the holes, then new plugs. Leave 24 hours- longer if
possible.

[N_Cook]

Before injecting hot melt glue in there, heat up the local area of the
wall and hole with a hot air gun and temprarily blank off, flush with
the wall surface with some kitchen silicone bakeware material, with a
hole in it to take the plug, and alignment markings.


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[The Natural Philosopher]

On 10/02/2023 08:48, charles wrote:

> What modern stuff replaces Rawlplastic ?

Car body filler

>
> I have ragged holes where 2 plugs, holding a curtain rail, have pulled out
> of old plaster and I need to refix? If it was just filling the hole, that's
> no problem, but I need to insert plugs and re-screw the brackets in place.
>

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[Max Demian]

On 10/02/2023 09:45, Andy Burns wrote:
> charles wrote:
>
>> What modern stuff replaces Rawlplastic ?
>>
>> I have ragged holes where 2 plugs, holding a curtain rail, have pulled
>> out
>> of old plaster and I need to refix? If it was just filling the hole,
>> that's
>> no problem, but I need to insert plugs and re-screw the brackets in
>> place.
>
> I think this is the same stuff I have an ancient packet of, which was
> good for filling then re-drilling quickly afterwards
>
> <https://www.wilko.com/polycell-2kg-quick-set-cement/p/0288364>

But will it hold a wood screw? Rawlplastic would hold the screw even
before it set, due to its fibrous nature.

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[N_Cook]

The fibres being asbestos though.

[Animal]

On Friday, 10 February 2023 at 09:30:12 UTC, charles wrote:
> What modern stuff replaces Rawlplastic ?
>
> I have ragged holes where 2 plugs, holding a curtain rail, have pulled out
> of old plaster and I need to refix? If it was just filling the hole, that's
> no problem, but I need to insert plugs and re-screw the brackets in place.

Just use filler with added pva, then redrill for new plugs. Key is to make the scews deep enough to fix into the masonry.

[me9]

Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

> But will it hold a wood screw? Rawlplastic would hold the screw even
> before it set, due to its fibrous nature.

IIRC mainly asbestos. The GPO banned it.
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[Brian Gaff]

Hmm, I've used all sorts of things, from an epoxy resin like car body
filler, to the old item you mention, Plastic wood it used to be called. The
main issue I nearly always encountered was that the plaster itself further
away from the jagged hole had blown and not fixing that first meant in a
short while a bigger hole was created in the wall. I have one at the moment
where a speaker bracket pulled its top screw out.

that was a proper rawl bolt too, and part of the underlying brick of the
party wall has come off with it.

Brian

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[Rob Morley]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 08:48:40 +0000 (GMT)
charles <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> What modern stuff replaces Rawlplastic ?
>
> I have ragged holes where 2 plugs, holding a curtain rail, have
> pulled out of old plaster and I need to refix? If it was just filling
> the hole, that's no problem, but I need to insert plugs and re-screw
> the brackets in place.
>

Cut back to firm plaster (at least a couple of inches) and soak with
PVA, then fill with Polyfilla-type stuff. You can either push plastic
plugs in while it's still soft or drill when it's thoroughly hard.