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James Wilkinson Sword
Apr 2, 2017, 8:38:12 AM4/2/17
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Anyone still sell non-condensing boilers?
Richard
Apr 2, 2017, 9:27:08 AM4/2/17
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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message news:op.yx2ip...@red.lan...
https://www.mrcentralheating.co.uk/boilers/boilers-by-brand/vokera/non-condensing-boilers
>
>Anyone still sell non-condensing boilers?
Suck on this:
>Anyone still sell non-condensing boilers?
https://www.mrcentralheating.co.uk/boilers/boilers-by-brand/vokera/non-condensing-boilers
James Wilkinson Sword
Apr 2, 2017, 9:34:42 AM4/2/17
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Richard
Apr 2, 2017, 10:05:17 AM4/2/17
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"James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message news:op.yx2lb...@red.lan...
https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/7/boilers_and_heating/2
then follow the link for the SEDBUK ratings and try to find one with an
efficiency rating of C or worse. If you can find one which is currently
manufactured, search for that.
This should keep you busy for a while.
HTH
>
>On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 14:27:04 +0100, Richard
><smit...@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
>> news:op.yx2ip...@red.lan...
>>>
>>> Anyone still sell non-condensing boilers?
>>
>> Suck on this:
>> https://www.mrcentralheating.co.uk/boilers/boilers-by-brand/vokera/non-condensing-boilers
>
>Been there already, no matches.
If you want to have one installed, I guess you'll have to find an installer:
>On Sun, 02 Apr 2017 14:27:04 +0100, Richard
><smit...@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "James Wilkinson Sword" wrote in message
>> news:op.yx2ip...@red.lan...
>>>
>>> Anyone still sell non-condensing boilers?
>>
>> Suck on this:
>> https://www.mrcentralheating.co.uk/boilers/boilers-by-brand/vokera/non-condensing-boilers
>
>Been there already, no matches.
https://www.planningportal.co.uk/info/200130/common_projects/7/boilers_and_heating/2
then follow the link for the SEDBUK ratings and try to find one with an
efficiency rating of C or worse. If you can find one which is currently
manufactured, search for that.
This should keep you busy for a while.
HTH
James Wilkinson Sword
Apr 2, 2017, 10:11:21 AM4/2/17
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Fredxxx
Apr 2, 2017, 10:33:26 AM4/2/17
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best stop now.
James Wilkinson Sword
Apr 2, 2017, 10:37:21 AM4/2/17
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Fredxxx
Apr 2, 2017, 8:13:12 PM4/2/17
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The difference is very slight in being one has a condensate trap etc,
which I might add has no moving parts and is perhaps the most reliable
part of a boiler.
The only exception to that is where the condensate is subject to
freezing conditions
James Wilkinson Sword
Apr 2, 2017, 8:19:26 PM4/2/17
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> The difference is very slight in being one has a condensate trap etc,
> which I might add has no moving parts and is perhaps the most reliable
> part of a boiler.
>
> The only exception to that is where the condensate is subject to
> freezing conditions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensing_boiler#Reliability
"Reliability
Condensing boilers are claimed to have a reputation for being less reliable and may also suffer if worked on by installers and plumbers who may not understand their operation.[8] Claims of unreliability have been contradicted by research carried out by the UK-based Building Research Establishment (see Myths below.)
In particular, the problem of 'pluming' arose with early installations of condensing boilers, in which a white plume of condensed vapour (as minuscule droplets) becomes visible at the outlet flue. Although unimportant to boiler operation, visible pluming was an aesthetic issue that caused much opposition to condensing boilers.
A more significant issue is the slight acidity of the condensate liquid. Where this is in direct contact with the boiler's heat exchanger, particularly for thin aluminium sheet, it may give rise to more rapid corrosion than for traditional non-condensing boilers. Older boilers may also have used thick cast heat exchangers, rather than sheet, which had slower time constants for their response but were also resistant, by their sheer mass, to any corrosion. The acidity of the condensate means that only some materials may be used: stainless steel and aluminium are suitable, mild steel, copper or cast iron are not.[9] Poor design or construction standards may have made the heat exchangers of some early condensing boilers less long-lived.
Initial testing and annual monitoring of the heat transfer fluid in condensing boilers with aluminium or stainless steel heat exchangers is highly recommended. Maintenance of a slightly alkaline (pH 8 to 9) liquid with anti-corrosion and buffering agents reduces corrosion of the aluminium heat exchanger. Some professionals believe that the condensate produced on the combustion side of the heat exchanger may corrode an aluminium heat exchanger and shorten boiler life. Statistical evidence is not yet available since condensing boilers with aluminium heat exchangers have not been in use long enough."
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Tim Watts
Apr 3, 2017, 4:51:12 AM4/3/17
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problem by discharging a volume of warm water rather than a continuous drip)
Scott
Apr 3, 2017, 5:20:59 AM4/3/17
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 01:19:21 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
<imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
[snip]
cannot be taken as an authoritative exposition on the subject?
<imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
[snip]
>
>It's the acid that causes the problem.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensing_boiler#Reliability
>
>"Reliability
>
>Condensing boilers are claimed to have a reputation for being less reliable and may also suffer if worked on by installers and plumbers who may not understand their operation.[8] Claims of unreliability have been contradicted by research carried out by the UK-based Building Research Establishment (see Myths below.)
>
>In particular, the problem of 'pluming' arose with early installations of condensing boilers, in which a white plume of condensed vapour (as minuscule droplets) becomes visible at the outlet flue. Although unimportant to boiler operation, visible pluming was an aesthetic issue that caused much opposition to condensing boilers.
>
>A more significant issue is the slight acidity of the condensate liquid. Where this is in direct contact with the boiler's heat exchanger, particularly for thin aluminium sheet, it may give rise to more rapid corrosion than for traditional non-condensing boilers. Older boilers may also have used thick cast heat exchangers, rather than sheet, which had slower time constants for their response but were also resistant, by their sheer mass, to any corrosion. The acidity of the condensate means that only some materials may be used: stainless steel and aluminium are suitable, mild steel, copper or cast iron are not.[9] Poor design or construction standards may have made the heat exchangers of some early condensing boilers less long-lived.
>
>Initial testing and annual monitoring of the heat transfer fluid in condensing boilers with aluminium or stainless steel heat exchangers is highly recommended. Maintenance of a slightly alkaline (pH 8 to 9) liquid with anti-corrosion and buffering agents reduces corrosion of the aluminium heat exchanger. Some professionals believe that the condensate produced on the combustion side of the heat exchanger may corrode an aluminium heat exchanger and shorten boiler life. Statistical evidence is not yet available since condensing boilers with aluminium heat exchangers have not been in use long enough."
You do realise that Wikipedia represents one person's opinion and
>It's the acid that causes the problem.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensing_boiler#Reliability
>
>"Reliability
>
>Condensing boilers are claimed to have a reputation for being less reliable and may also suffer if worked on by installers and plumbers who may not understand their operation.[8] Claims of unreliability have been contradicted by research carried out by the UK-based Building Research Establishment (see Myths below.)
>
>In particular, the problem of 'pluming' arose with early installations of condensing boilers, in which a white plume of condensed vapour (as minuscule droplets) becomes visible at the outlet flue. Although unimportant to boiler operation, visible pluming was an aesthetic issue that caused much opposition to condensing boilers.
>
>A more significant issue is the slight acidity of the condensate liquid. Where this is in direct contact with the boiler's heat exchanger, particularly for thin aluminium sheet, it may give rise to more rapid corrosion than for traditional non-condensing boilers. Older boilers may also have used thick cast heat exchangers, rather than sheet, which had slower time constants for their response but were also resistant, by their sheer mass, to any corrosion. The acidity of the condensate means that only some materials may be used: stainless steel and aluminium are suitable, mild steel, copper or cast iron are not.[9] Poor design or construction standards may have made the heat exchangers of some early condensing boilers less long-lived.
>
>Initial testing and annual monitoring of the heat transfer fluid in condensing boilers with aluminium or stainless steel heat exchangers is highly recommended. Maintenance of a slightly alkaline (pH 8 to 9) liquid with anti-corrosion and buffering agents reduces corrosion of the aluminium heat exchanger. Some professionals believe that the condensate produced on the combustion side of the heat exchanger may corrode an aluminium heat exchanger and shorten boiler life. Statistical evidence is not yet available since condensing boilers with aluminium heat exchangers have not been in use long enough."
cannot be taken as an authoritative exposition on the subject?
The Natural Philosopher
Apr 3, 2017, 6:00:01 AM4/3/17
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When its written by commercial or political advocates it is pure propaganda.
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Apr 3, 2017, 6:23:15 AM4/3/17
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 10:20:55 +0100, Scott wrote:
> You do realise that Wikipedia represents one person's opinion and
> cannot be taken as an authoritative exposition on the subject?
Pretty much like posts on here then.
> You do realise that Wikipedia represents one person's opinion and
> cannot be taken as an authoritative exposition on the subject?
James Wilkinson Sword
Apr 3, 2017, 7:17:44 AM4/3/17
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Apr 3, 2017, 7:22:58 AM4/3/17
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:18:14 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
Okay, how many people wrote it? And by the way:
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I wouldn't rely on it but in the post-truth era you can of course
believe what you want.
"This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help
improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources.
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I wouldn't rely on it but in the post-truth era you can of course
believe what you want.
James Wilkinson Sword
Apr 3, 2017, 7:55:46 AM4/3/17
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:22:54 +0100, Scott <newsg...@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:18:14 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
> <imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 10:20:55 +0100, Scott <newsg...@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 01:19:21 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
>>> <imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> It's the acid that causes the problem.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensing_boiler#Reliability
>>>>
>>>> "Reliability
>>>>
>>>> Condensing boilers are claimed to have a reputation for being less reliable and may also suffer if worked on by installers and plumbers who may not understand their operation.[8] Claims of unreliability have been contradicted by research carried out by the UK-based Building Research Establishment (see Myths below.)
>>>>
>>>> In particular, the problem of 'pluming' arose with early installations of condensing boilers, in which a white plume of condensed vapour (as minuscule droplets) becomes visible at the outlet flue. Although unimportant to boiler operation, visible pluming was an aesthetic issue that caused much opposition to condensing boilers.
>>>>
>>>> A more significant issue is the slight acidity of the condensate liquid. Where this is in direct contact with the boiler's heat exchanger, particularly for thin aluminium sheet, it may give rise to more rapid corrosion than for traditional non-condensing boilers. Older boilers may also have used thick cast heat exchangers, rather than sheet, which had slower time constants for their response but were also resistant, by their sheer mass, to any corrosion. The acidity of the condensate means that only some materials may be used: stainless steel and aluminium are suitable, mild steel, copper or cast iron are not.[9] Poor design or construction standards may have made the heat exchangers of some early condensing boilers less long-lived.
>>>>
>>>> Initial testing and annual monitoring of the heat transfer fluid in condensing boilers with aluminium or stainless steel heat exchangers is highly recommended. Maintenance of a slightly alkaline (pH 8 to 9) liquid with anti-corrosion and buffering agents reduces corrosion of the aluminium heat exchanger. Some professionals believe that the condensate produced on the combustion side of the heat exchanger may corrode an aluminium heat exchanger and shorten boiler life. Statistical evidence is not yet available since condensing boilers with aluminium heat exchangers have not been in use long enough."
>>>
>>> You do realise that Wikipedia represents one person's opinion and
>>> cannot be taken as an authoritative exposition on the subject?
>>
>> It's not written by one person. And I've read about the acid on many websites.
>
> Okay, how many people wrote it? And by the way:
About 10:
> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:18:14 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
> <imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 10:20:55 +0100, Scott <newsg...@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 01:19:21 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
>>> <imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>>
>>>> It's the acid that causes the problem.
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensing_boiler#Reliability
>>>>
>>>> "Reliability
>>>>
>>>> Condensing boilers are claimed to have a reputation for being less reliable and may also suffer if worked on by installers and plumbers who may not understand their operation.[8] Claims of unreliability have been contradicted by research carried out by the UK-based Building Research Establishment (see Myths below.)
>>>>
>>>> In particular, the problem of 'pluming' arose with early installations of condensing boilers, in which a white plume of condensed vapour (as minuscule droplets) becomes visible at the outlet flue. Although unimportant to boiler operation, visible pluming was an aesthetic issue that caused much opposition to condensing boilers.
>>>>
>>>> A more significant issue is the slight acidity of the condensate liquid. Where this is in direct contact with the boiler's heat exchanger, particularly for thin aluminium sheet, it may give rise to more rapid corrosion than for traditional non-condensing boilers. Older boilers may also have used thick cast heat exchangers, rather than sheet, which had slower time constants for their response but were also resistant, by their sheer mass, to any corrosion. The acidity of the condensate means that only some materials may be used: stainless steel and aluminium are suitable, mild steel, copper or cast iron are not.[9] Poor design or construction standards may have made the heat exchangers of some early condensing boilers less long-lived.
>>>>
>>>> Initial testing and annual monitoring of the heat transfer fluid in condensing boilers with aluminium or stainless steel heat exchangers is highly recommended. Maintenance of a slightly alkaline (pH 8 to 9) liquid with anti-corrosion and buffering agents reduces corrosion of the aluminium heat exchanger. Some professionals believe that the condensate produced on the combustion side of the heat exchanger may corrode an aluminium heat exchanger and shorten boiler life. Statistical evidence is not yet available since condensing boilers with aluminium heat exchangers have not been in use long enough."
>>>
>>> You do realise that Wikipedia represents one person's opinion and
>>> cannot be taken as an authoritative exposition on the subject?
>>
>> It's not written by one person. And I've read about the acid on many websites.
>
> Okay, how many people wrote it? And by the way:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Condensing_boiler&action=history
> "This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help
> improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources.
> Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (June 2011) (Learn
> how and when to remove this template message)"
>
> I wouldn't rely on it but in the post-truth era you can of course
> believe what you want.
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Apr 3, 2017, 8:00:20 AM4/3/17
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:55:41 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
into it.
scepticism.
<imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:22:54 +0100, Scott <newsg...@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:18:14 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
>> <imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 10:20:55 +0100, Scott <newsg...@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 01:19:21 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
>>>> <imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the acid that causes the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensing_boiler#Reliability
>>>>>
>>>>> "Reliability
>>>>>
>>>>> Condensing boilers are claimed to have a reputation for being less reliable and may also suffer if worked on by installers and plumbers who may not understand their operation.[8] Claims of unreliability have been contradicted by research carried out by the UK-based Building Research Establishment (see Myths below.)
>>>>>
>>>>> In particular, the problem of 'pluming' arose with early installations of condensing boilers, in which a white plume of condensed vapour (as minuscule droplets) becomes visible at the outlet flue. Although unimportant to boiler operation, visible pluming was an aesthetic issue that caused much opposition to condensing boilers.
>>>>>
>>>>> A more significant issue is the slight acidity of the condensate liquid. Where this is in direct contact with the boiler's heat exchanger, particularly for thin aluminium sheet, it may give rise to more rapid corrosion than for traditional non-condensing boilers. Older boilers may also have used thick cast heat exchangers, rather than sheet, which had slower time constants for their response but were also resistant, by their sheer mass, to any corrosion. The acidity of the condensate means that only some materials may be used: stainless steel and aluminium are suitable, mild steel, copper or cast iron are not.[9] Poor design or construction standards may have made the heat exchangers of some early condensing boilers less long-lived.
>>>>>
>>>>> Initial testing and annual monitoring of the heat transfer fluid in condensing boilers with aluminium or stainless steel heat exchangers is highly recommended. Maintenance of a slightly alkaline (pH 8 to 9) liquid with anti-corrosion and buffering agents reduces corrosion of the aluminium heat exchanger. Some professionals believe that the condensate produced on the combustion side of the heat exchanger may corrode an aluminium heat exchanger and shorten boiler life. Statistical evidence is not yet available since condensing boilers with aluminium heat exchangers have not been in use long enough."
>>>>
>>>> You do realise that Wikipedia represents one person's opinion and
>>>> cannot be taken as an authoritative exposition on the subject?
>>>
>>> It's not written by one person. And I've read about the acid on many websites.
>>
>> Okay, how many people wrote it? And by the way:
>
>About 10:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Condensing_boiler&action=history
Okay, fair enough. I did not appreciate that so much input had gone
>On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:22:54 +0100, Scott <newsg...@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 12:18:14 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
>> <imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 10:20:55 +0100, Scott <newsg...@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 01:19:21 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
>>>> <imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [snip]
>>>>>
>>>>> It's the acid that causes the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condensing_boiler#Reliability
>>>>>
>>>>> "Reliability
>>>>>
>>>>> Condensing boilers are claimed to have a reputation for being less reliable and may also suffer if worked on by installers and plumbers who may not understand their operation.[8] Claims of unreliability have been contradicted by research carried out by the UK-based Building Research Establishment (see Myths below.)
>>>>>
>>>>> In particular, the problem of 'pluming' arose with early installations of condensing boilers, in which a white plume of condensed vapour (as minuscule droplets) becomes visible at the outlet flue. Although unimportant to boiler operation, visible pluming was an aesthetic issue that caused much opposition to condensing boilers.
>>>>>
>>>>> A more significant issue is the slight acidity of the condensate liquid. Where this is in direct contact with the boiler's heat exchanger, particularly for thin aluminium sheet, it may give rise to more rapid corrosion than for traditional non-condensing boilers. Older boilers may also have used thick cast heat exchangers, rather than sheet, which had slower time constants for their response but were also resistant, by their sheer mass, to any corrosion. The acidity of the condensate means that only some materials may be used: stainless steel and aluminium are suitable, mild steel, copper or cast iron are not.[9] Poor design or construction standards may have made the heat exchangers of some early condensing boilers less long-lived.
>>>>>
>>>>> Initial testing and annual monitoring of the heat transfer fluid in condensing boilers with aluminium or stainless steel heat exchangers is highly recommended. Maintenance of a slightly alkaline (pH 8 to 9) liquid with anti-corrosion and buffering agents reduces corrosion of the aluminium heat exchanger. Some professionals believe that the condensate produced on the combustion side of the heat exchanger may corrode an aluminium heat exchanger and shorten boiler life. Statistical evidence is not yet available since condensing boilers with aluminium heat exchangers have not been in use long enough."
>>>>
>>>> You do realise that Wikipedia represents one person's opinion and
>>>> cannot be taken as an authoritative exposition on the subject?
>>>
>>> It's not written by one person. And I've read about the acid on many websites.
>>
>> Okay, how many people wrote it? And by the way:
>
>About 10:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Condensing_boiler&action=history
into it.
>
>> "This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help
>> improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources.
>> Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (June 2011) (Learn
>> how and when to remove this template message)"
>>
>> I wouldn't rely on it but in the post-truth era you can of course
>> believe what you want.
>
>It's more reliable than any other webpage, which IS written by one person, and not challenged.
Fair point. I use Wikipedia a lot but always with a degree of
>> "This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help
>> improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources.
>> Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (June 2011) (Learn
>> how and when to remove this template message)"
>>
>> I wouldn't rely on it but in the post-truth era you can of course
>> believe what you want.
>
>It's more reliable than any other webpage, which IS written by one person, and not challenged.
scepticism.
James Wilkinson Sword
Apr 3, 2017, 8:19:44 AM4/3/17
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Apr 3, 2017, 1:32:09 PM4/3/17
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2017 13:19:39 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
In truth, I usually do too :-)
ARW
Apr 3, 2017, 3:43:03 PM4/3/17
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however I believe that something has challenged in the regs about
allowing the installation of a B class boiler.
I believe it was about October last year and the plumber was made to
swap all the B rated boilers he has installed in 6 flats for A rated
ones. Now these were not new builds but a conversion into flats.
I am not saying that a B rated boiler cannot be fitted into an existing
house.
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Apr 3, 2017, 3:49:31 PM4/3/17
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Apr 14, 2017, 7:07:09 PM4/14/17
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"James Wilkinson Sword" <imv...@somewear.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone still sell non-condensing boilers?
You're now posting in uk.legal.moderated?
LMFAO, that's so funny.
What a shame, is nobody taking any notice of you? LMFAO.
You won't get far in there, old son.
Steve Walker
Apr 15, 2017, 5:27:39 PM4/15/17
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reasonably well against Encyclopedia Britannica for accuracy. That was
some time ago though, so I don't know if it still holds true.
SteveW
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Apr 15, 2017, 5:45:49 PM4/15/17
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