Radiator brackets - which way round?

Lobster

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:13:53 PM10/25/14

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I've never been sure about this one... ordinary radiator brackets have an
'L' cross section (eg http://tinyurl.com/ojjv7vn), and are obviously
intended to be able to be fitted either way round so that the radiator
hangs 'nearer to' or 'further from' the wall. Is this just personal
preference, to allow the plus of more airflow behind and less heating of
the wall itself, versus the minus of protruding into the room?

Or does it depend on whether it's a small or large radiator, or a single or
a double? Or something?

Thanks

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David

Andrew Gabriel

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Oct 25, 2014, 1:37:59 PM10/25/14

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In article <XnsA3D1B978A3AA3d...@81.171.92.222>,

Lobster <davidlobs...@hotmail.com> writes:
> I've never been sure about this one... ordinary radiator brackets have an
> 'L' cross section (eg http://tinyurl.com/ojjv7vn), and are obviously
> intended to be able to be fitted either way round so that the radiator
> hangs 'nearer to' or 'further from' the wall. Is this just personal
> preference, to allow the plus of more airflow behind and less heating of
> the wall itself, versus the minus of protruding into the room?

Yes.

> Or does it depend on whether it's a small or large radiator, or a single or
> a double? Or something?

No.

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Andrew Gabriel
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Bod

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Oct 25, 2014, 2:05:23 PM10/25/14

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On 25/10/2014 18:37, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
> In article <XnsA3D1B978A3AA3d...@81.171.92.222>,
> Lobster <davidlobs...@hotmail.com> writes:
>> I've never been sure about this one... ordinary radiator brackets have an
>> 'L' cross section (eg http://tinyurl.com/ojjv7vn), and are obviously
>> intended to be able to be fitted either way round so that the radiator
>> hangs 'nearer to' or 'further from' the wall. Is this just personal
>> preference, to allow the plus of more airflow behind and less heating of
>> the wall itself, versus the minus of protruding into the room?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Or does it depend on whether it's a small or large radiator, or a single or
>> a double? Or something?
>
> No.
>

It's a personal preference,ie; further from the wall to allow thick
curtains behind or if the skirting board is rather thick etc.
Further out also gives you a better chance of painting behind the rad.
Whatever suits the situation.

fred

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Oct 25, 2014, 4:00:38 PM10/25/14

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In article <XnsA3D1B978A3AA3d...@81.171.92.222>, Lobster
<davidlobs...@hotmail.com> writes

Personal prefs, I keep both single and double panel convectors close to
the wall.

It's been a long time since I fitted just a single panel (without added
convector) but I think as that didn't have fins and the welded bracket
was direct on the skin that the large stand-off option was required on
those when mounting.
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fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

John Rumm

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Oct 25, 2014, 4:11:32 PM10/25/14

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On 25/10/2014 18:37, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

> In article <XnsA3D1B978A3AA3d...@81.171.92.222>,
> Lobster <davidlobs...@hotmail.com> writes:
>> I've never been sure about this one... ordinary radiator brackets have an
>> 'L' cross section (eg http://tinyurl.com/ojjv7vn), and are obviously
>> intended to be able to be fitted either way round so that the radiator
>> hangs 'nearer to' or 'further from' the wall. Is this just personal
>> preference, to allow the plus of more airflow behind and less heating of
>> the wall itself, versus the minus of protruding into the room?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Or does it depend on whether it's a small or large radiator, or a single or
>> a double? Or something?
>
> No.

You can make use of the bracket variability to allow tails in one place
to be used with single or double panel rads - just by rotating the
brackets. (i.e. double panel goes closer to the wall to move the rail
connection in a bit).

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Cheers,

John.

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Scott M

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Oct 25, 2014, 5:00:40 PM10/25/14

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Andrew Gabriel wrote:
> In article <XnsA3D1B978A3AA3d...@81.171.92.222>,
> Lobster <davidlobs...@hotmail.com> writes:
>> I've never been sure about this one... ordinary radiator brackets have an
>> 'L' cross section (eg http://tinyurl.com/ojjv7vn), and are obviously
>> intended to be able to be fitted either way round so that the radiator
>> hangs 'nearer to' or 'further from' the wall. Is this just personal
>> preference, to allow the plus of more airflow behind and less heating of
>> the wall itself, versus the minus of protruding into the room?
>
> Yes.
>
>> Or does it depend on whether it's a small or large radiator, or a single or
>> a double? Or something?
>
> No.

I've seen it specifically mentioned in the destructions for some that
the short arm is for doubles and the long for singles.

--
Scott

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?

Andrew Gabriel

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Oct 25, 2014, 5:37:32 PM10/25/14

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In article <m2h31d$ono$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,

The spec sheet for one of the makes of radiator I used (probably
Ultraheat) did mention that the larger wall spacing increases the
heat output a little. It will be relatively more for a single
panel (of which I have none), and less so for the double and
triple panel radiators I actually used.

RJH

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Oct 26, 2014, 6:51:10 AM10/26/14

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If doing a single, make sure there's space for the valve. On the ones I
fitted recently, there's only a couple of mm using the brackets close to
wall.

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Cheers, Rob

sm_jamieson

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Oct 28, 2014, 6:08:29 AM10/28/14

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New rads seem to have the valve fixed to the back of the radiator rather than inline with the main radiator body. That makes less space for a thermostatic valve. The rad I fitted in the kitchen I wanted as close to the wall as possible so I actually recessed the brackets into the wall. There was just enough space for the slimmer Drayton TRV, but a bulkier cheaper TRV would not have fitted.
Simon.

Chris French

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Oct 28, 2014, 3:21:20 PM10/28/14

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In message <0fb152b5-055c-4ca8...@googlegroups.com>,
sm_jamieson <sm_ja...@hotmail.com> writes

The rads I've just fitted have the valves in the normal place
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Chris French

RJH

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Oct 28, 2014, 8:32:36 PM10/28/14

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Yes, these are basic Wickes 'inline' - and I meant to say fairly chunky
but not enormous TRVs.

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Cheers, Rob

sm_jamieson

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Oct 29, 2014, 9:14:33 AM10/29/14

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I mean the single panel radiators like this:

http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Type-11-Single-Panel-Universal-Radiator-700x400mm/p/221178

The valve is on the back of the panel, not inline with the main body.

Which make did you fit ?

Simon.

RJH

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Oct 29, 2014, 11:01:27 AM10/29/14

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That's what I used, and you're right, the TRV was a tight fit
next-to-wall wise.

Top tip - check the welded radiator bracket lugs on those. A couple of
mine had folded into the rad because of poor handling.

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Cheers, Rob

Chris French

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Nov 3, 2014, 9:30:30 AM11/3/14

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In message <dff6ee26-2081-4949...@googlegroups.com>,

Kudox, from Screwfix.

But I was fitting double panel rads - sorry, I forgot that modern single
panels rads seem to have the valve behind the panel (my old single panel
ones here have it inline)
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Chris French