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Glow-Worm Climapro 2 - controlling

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polygonum_on_google

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Oct 30, 2023, 1:13:52 PM10/30/23
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Afternoon all,

Where I am living, many houses have been fitted with a variety of Glow-Worm boilers - at least the majority of which have Climapro 2 controller/thermostats.

Everyone hates them.

(Worst battery compartment design of the century. Poor user interface. Lots of issues about losing connection to boiler. Random 'just not working'.)

Is there any alternative way of controlling these boilers? Some sort of app. After all, I think Climapro 2 uses standard wifi to connect.

Or do we have to add a Hive/TaDo/whatever boiler hub unit?
If a new unit of sort sort is required, have you got any suggestions/recommendations?

Things like controlling over the internet are not important. It is within the houses that matters.

alan_m

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Oct 30, 2023, 1:58:15 PM10/30/23
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On 30/10/2023 17:13, polygonum_on_google wrote:
> Afternoon all,
>
> Where I am living, many houses have been fitted with a variety of Glow-Worm boilers - at least the majority of which have Climapro 2 controller/thermostats.
>
> Everyone hates them.
>
> (Worst battery compartment design of the century. Poor user interface. Lots of issues about losing connection to boiler. Random 'just not working'.)
>
> Is there any alternative way of controlling these boilers? Some sort of app. After all, I think Climapro 2 uses standard wifi to connect.

I doesn't appear to be wi-fi. It a wireless connection between the
controller and receiver and a wired Ebus between the receiver and boiler.

>
> Or do we have to add a Hive/TaDo/whatever boiler hub unit?
> If a new unit of sort sort is required, have you got any suggestions/recommendations?
> Things like controlling over the internet are not important. It is within the houses that matters.

Tado is not self contained within your house. It totally relies on a
permanent connection to their cloud service over the internet for any
scheduling. If the internet goes down then the only control you have is
two manual switches on the receiver and you have to switch the heating
(and/or hot water) on and off yourself. While their app allows controls
most aspects of the system if you want a boost for an hour and then
cancel automatically you have to use something like Alexa. You can boost
via the app but it only cancels automatically on the next schedule
change which could be 12+ hours later. The App seems to lack the control
over some of the features that the system is capable of. All the main
functionality on the Tado and their App a free but there are additional
paid for subscription services. IMO not worth paying for the gimmick
features.

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polygonum_on_google

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Oct 30, 2023, 2:12:41 PM10/30/23
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Thanks Alan.

I thought that it was wifi from controller to receiver (within the boiler case). Am I wrong? Would be good if we could just replace the controller (by a thermostat and an app).

Thanks for the TaDo detail. Although we have been annoyed by Climapro 2 for years, it has only just risen up the priority scale enough for me to be seriously looking. Hence, still at beginner stage.

I think there is very little interest in the fancy features. But that sounds rather bad when there is no internet. We have computing power beyond belief (three computers and a phone within two feet of me). Going outside the building seems entirely unnecessary for day to day operation.

alan_m

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Oct 30, 2023, 4:23:27 PM10/30/23
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On 30/10/2023 18:12, polygonum_on_google wrote:

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> I thought that it was wifi from controller to receiver (within the boiler case). Am I wrong?

Yes you are wrong,

The Transmission/reception frequency is 868MHz

Page 17 of...
<https://www.glow-worm.co.uk/glow-worm/products-1/climapro2/climapro-2-with-receiver-installation-157135.pdf>

Wi-fi is 2.4Ghz or 5GHz.

If you used one of the others of your suggestions you would also have to
remove the receiver fitted in the boiler and maybe operate the boiler
control in a alternative manner, removing some of the Ebus benefits.

SH

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Oct 30, 2023, 5:31:25 PM10/30/23
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You could take a look at Drayton Wiser, no internet or cloud needed

https://wiser.draytoncontrols.co.uk/blog/wiser-customer-stories-simon-saves-money-better-heating-control

SH

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Oct 30, 2023, 5:31:57 PM10/30/23
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On 30/10/2023 17:58, alan_m wrote:
and https://wiser.draytoncontrols.co.uk/smart-heating-kits
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