Re: Limescale tablets in washing machines

[Bob Eager]

On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:26:33 +0000, pamela wrote:

> I live in a hard water area and recently saw some own brand "W5
> Limescale tablets" for washing machinesat my local Lidl.
>
> I bought them thinking they must be useful because Lidl tends to sell
> no-nonsense items and I guessed Lidl was stocking them in my branch
> because there's a local demand on account of the water hardness.
>
> http://www.lidlcommunity.co.uk/t5/Product-Reviews/W5-Limescale-
> Tablets/cns-p/4171
>
> However, sites like this say you don't need laundry water softening
> tablets at all.
>
> https://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/is-calgon-worth-using/
>
> We don't actually have any problems with our 5 years old washing
> machine, so am I a bit of a mug?
>
> I don't want to waste my time going through a ritual of putting in a
> tablet for the next 50 washes if it's no use. I would rather throw the
> pack in the dustbin.

I live in a hard water area.

Our washing machine developed a leak round the heater after 12 years of
heavy use (it was a hardened rubber seal). There was no significant
scale, and we had never used anything to 'fix' the water.

No other appliances have shown significant scale, either (well, a bit in
the kettle).




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On 08/02/2017 11:35, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:26:33 +0000, pamela wrote:
>
>> I live in a hard water area and recently saw some own brand "W5
>> Limescale tablets" for washing machinesat my local Lidl.
>>
>> I bought them thinking they must be useful because Lidl tends to sell
>> no-nonsense items and I guessed Lidl was stocking them in my branch
>> because there's a local demand on account of the water hardness.
>>
>> http://www.lidlcommunity.co.uk/t5/Product-Reviews/W5-Limescale-
>> Tablets/cns-p/4171
>>
>> However, sites like this say you don't need laundry water softening
>> tablets at all.
>>
>> https://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/is-calgon-worth-using/
>>
>> We don't actually have any problems with our 5 years old washing
>> machine, so am I a bit of a mug?
>>
>> I don't want to waste my time going through a ritual of putting in a
>> tablet for the next 50 washes if it's no use. I would rather throw the
>> pack in the dustbin.
>
> I live in a hard water area.
>
> Our washing machine developed a leak round the heater after 12 years of
> heavy use (it was a hardened rubber seal). There was no significant
> scale, and we had never used anything to 'fix' the water.
>
> No other appliances have shown significant scale, either (well, a bit in
> the kettle).
>
>
>
>

I have had a problem with the toilet. Not a major problem, until I came
to dissemble it. completely jammed with scale, having immense difficulty
in removing the parts. :-(

[Nick]

On 08/02/2017 11:35, Bob Eager wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:26:33 +0000, pamela wrote:
>
>> I live in a hard water area and recently saw some own brand "W5
>> Limescale tablets" for washing machinesat my local Lidl.
>>
>> I bought them thinking they must be useful because Lidl tends to sell
>> no-nonsense items and I guessed Lidl was stocking them in my branch
>> because there's a local demand on account of the water hardness.
>>
>> http://www.lidlcommunity.co.uk/t5/Product-Reviews/W5-Limescale-
>> Tablets/cns-p/4171
>>
>> However, sites like this say you don't need laundry water softening
>> tablets at all.
>>
>> https://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/is-calgon-worth-using/
>>
>> We don't actually have any problems with our 5 years old washing
>> machine, so am I a bit of a mug?
>>
>> I don't want to waste my time going through a ritual of putting in a
>> tablet for the next 50 washes if it's no use. I would rather throw the
>> pack in the dustbin.
>
> I live in a hard water area.
>
> Our washing machine developed a leak round the heater after 12 years of
> heavy use (it was a hardened rubber seal). There was no significant
> scale, and we had never used anything to 'fix' the water.
>
> No other appliances have shown significant scale, either (well, a bit in
> the kettle).
>

I live in a hard water area (London). I regularly have to de-scale the
kettle.

I had a washing machine for 20 years without problem, without using
salt. I mean without ANY problem. I hated its slow spin and if it had so
much as hiccuped I would have replaced it.

I notice that on my dishwasher, 23 years old, the heating elements go
white if there is no salt and clean off after I refill the salt.

Doesn't salt also improve the detergent effectiveness?

[meow...@care2.com]

On Wednesday, February 8, 2017 at 11:35:29 AM UTC, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:26:33 +0000, pamela wrote:
>
> > I live in a hard water area and recently saw some own brand "W5
> > Limescale tablets" for washing machinesat my local Lidl.
> >
> > I bought them thinking they must be useful because Lidl tends to sell
> > no-nonsense items and I guessed Lidl was stocking them in my branch
> > because there's a local demand on account of the water hardness.
> >
> > http://www.lidlcommunity.co.uk/t5/Product-Reviews/W5-Limescale-
> > Tablets/cns-p/4171
> >
> > However, sites like this say you don't need laundry water softening
> > tablets at all.
> >
> > https://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/is-calgon-worth-using/
> >
> > We don't actually have any problems with our 5 years old washing
> > machine, so am I a bit of a mug?
> >
> > I don't want to waste my time going through a ritual of putting in a
> > tablet for the next 50 washes if it's no use. I would rather throw the
> > pack in the dustbin.
>
> I live in a hard water area.
>
> Our washing machine developed a leak round the heater after 12 years of
> heavy use (it was a hardened rubber seal). There was no significant
> scale, and we had never used anything to 'fix' the water.
>
> No other appliances have shown significant scale, either (well, a bit in
> the kettle).

You'll spend far more on calgon than it would cost to fix a fault caused by limescale. A descale with a little hot acid every 2 months is more practical. Citric works.


NT

[Bob Eager]

Exactly. The new heater was cheap, and easy to replace.

[Bob Eager]

On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:47:02 +0000, Nick wrote:

> Doesn't salt also improve the detergent effectiveness?

Not directly. But it does recharge the built-in water softener. And soft
water helps the detergent.

[Harry Bloomfield]

meow...@care2.com submitted this idea :

> You'll spend far more on calgon than it would cost to fix a fault caused by
> limescale. A descale with a little hot acid every 2 months is more practical.
> Citric works.

One of Calgon's ads features a supposedly Yorkshire plumber
recommending it, showing a choked up pipe oozing gundge and a coated
element. Yorkshire is renowned for having general very soft water. Our
washing machine, after close on a decade has no deposits and the
element still shines.

[Brian Gaff]

So how is it that Calgol adverts are all over the telly in London. I'm sure
that is what these are. I have to say however that although our water is
hrd, ie full of apparently disolved sand from the concret ring main round
London, it seems never to have been an issue with my previous or current
machine.
Now of course tomorrow it will pack up won't it?
Brian

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[newshound]

On 2/8/2017 2:22 PM, Brian Gaff wrote:
> So how is it that Calgol adverts are all over the telly in London. I'm sure
> that is what these are. I have to say however that although our water is
> hrd, ie full of apparently disolved sand from the concret ring main round
> London, it seems never to have been an issue with my previous or current
> machine.
> Now of course tomorrow it will pack up won't it?
> Brian
>

Because they are lying scum?

Didn't Which? review Calgon a while ago, and say it was completely
unnecessary in washing machines?

As for the OP, I wouldn't throw away the tablets, I would pop one in the
loo cistern every month or so. Can't do any harm, I think.

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 08/02/17 14:22, Brian Gaff wrote:
> our water is hard, ie full of apparently dissolved sand

You don't arf talk some crap Brian.


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[harry]

Many washing powders /detergents already have built in limescale protection.

[harry]

On Wednesday, 8 February 2017 14:27:39 UTC, newshound wrote:
> On 2/8/2017 2:22 PM, Brian Gaff wrote:
> > So how is it that Calgol adverts are all over the telly in London. I'm sure
> > that is what these are. I have to say however that although our water is
> > hrd, ie full of apparently disolved sand from the concret ring main round
> > London, it seems never to have been an issue with my previous or current
> > machine.
> > Now of course tomorrow it will pack up won't it?
> > Brian
> >
>
> Because they are lying scum?
>
> Didn't Which? review Calgon a while ago, and say it was completely
> unnecessary in washing machines?

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/may/26/washing-machines-calgon-claim-which

[newshound]

On 2/8/2017 2:48 PM, pamela wrote:

> The second link I posted suggests that if you use enough detergent
> (perhaps of the right sort) then the washer shouldn't need
> descaling.
>
> I'm left wondering why no-nonense Lidl, which often lacks shelf
> space for a wide range of products, finds there's a demand for
> their descaling tablets. Are they just dumping them on concerned
> mugs like me? :-)
>
Perhaps on the continent there are constraints on detergent formulation,
so that the tablets make more sense there? Or they are just cloning
something their customers are prepared to buy.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <6u2dnSoyochFtwbF...@brightview.co.uk>,

newshound <news...@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote:
> As for the OP, I wouldn't throw away the tablets, I would pop one in the
> loo cistern every month or so. Can't do any harm, I think.

Interesting. I've wondered if any tablets added to the WC cistern would
stop the hard water marks here. The ordinary disinfectant sort don't.
The top on my cistern simply lifts off, so easy to do.

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[Thomas Prufer]

On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 14:51:08 GMT, pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:

>I think I heard that the surfactants used in liquid detergents don't
>cause scale to form. Their dosing instructions often suggest the
>same quantity for soft or hard water areas. So who actually needs
>these Lidl descaling tablets?

Different things: Scale forms when water is heated, scum forms when some
surfactants (soap, notoriously) react with the "hardness".

Detergents do contain their own water softeners. My laundry detergents suggest
different doses, according to the water hardness.

So: Using the detergent amount suggested for the softest water, and add the
water softener tablet...


Thomas Prufer

[A_lu...@anonymous.invalid]

On 08/02/2017 11:26, pamela wrote:
> I live in a hard water area and recently saw some own brand "W5
> Limescale tablets" for washing machinesat my local Lidl.
>
> I bought them thinking they must be useful because Lidl tends to sell
> no-nonsense items and I guessed Lidl was stocking them in my branch
> because there's a local demand on account of the water hardness.
>
> http://www.lidlcommunity.co.uk/t5/Product-Reviews/W5-Limescale-
> Tablets/cns-p/4171
>
> However, sites like this say you don't need laundry water softening
> tablets at all.
>
> https://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/is-calgon-worth-using/
>
> We don't actually have any problems with our 5 years old washing
> machine, so am I a bit of a mug?
>
> I don't want to waste my time going through a ritual of putting in a
> tablet for the next 50 washes if it's no use. I would rather throw
> the pack in the dustbin.
>
>

Rillago

[Graham.]

On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:26:33 GMT, pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:

>I live in a hard water area and recently saw some own brand "W5
>Limescale tablets" for washing machinesat my local Lidl.
>
>I bought them thinking they must be useful because Lidl tends to sell
>no-nonsense items and I guessed Lidl was stocking them in my branch
>because there's a local demand on account of the water hardness.
>

I live in Manchester. Water doesn't come much softer. Lidl, and all
the other supermarkets have the same range of softening products on
the shelves. What was that about "No nonsense"?
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[Graham.]

On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 21:45:03 GMT, pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:

>I'm beginning to doubt the trust I put in Lidl. I didn't think
>they had room for product lines that are outright crap but now I'm
>not so sure. :-(

perhaps Lidl and Aldi win cite standardisation of their supply chain,
but Sainsbury's and Tesco are well versed in stocking their shelves
with ethnic items in line with their customer demographic.


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[Andrew Gabriel]

In article <XnsA716746...@81.171.92.183>,

pamela <inv...@nospam.com> writes:
> I live in a hard water area and recently saw some own brand "W5
> Limescale tablets" for washing machinesat my local Lidl.
>
> I bought them thinking they must be useful because Lidl tends to sell
> no-nonsense items and I guessed Lidl was stocking them in my branch
> because there's a local demand on account of the water hardness.
>

> http://www.lidlcommunity.co.uk/t5/Product-Reviews/W5-Limescale-
> Tablets/cns-p/4171
>
> However, sites like this say you don't need laundry water softening
> tablets at all.
>
> https://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/is-calgon-worth-using/
>
> We don't actually have any problems with our 5 years old washing
> machine, so am I a bit of a mug?
>
> I don't want to waste my time going through a ritual of putting in a
> tablet for the next 50 washes if it's no use. I would rather throw
> the pack in the dustbin.

Heating water up to 40C as done by modern washing machines won't
deposit any hard water scale - you really need to go above 60C
before that becomes a consideration.

Washing detergents don't react with calcium to form solids (unlike
old hand-wash soap powders, which you shouldn't use in a washing
machine).

Whilst you won't get scale on the element, you may get some in
other places where water dries - in the lower grove of the rubber
door seal is quite common, but pretty harmless, although mixed
with fabric conditioner residue, you might get some mold too.
Also on the inlet water jets, but a descaling additive in the
wash won't have any impact there.

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <a1jm9cltc1uas1veu...@4ax.com>,

Thomas Prufer <prufer...@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
> Different things: Scale forms when water is heated, scum forms when some
> surfactants (soap, notoriously) react with the "hardness".

Eh? Last time I looked my loo flushes with cold water. And scale forms on
the pan were that comes out.

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <XnsA716DD4...@81.171.92.183>,

pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:
> I'm beginning to doubt the trust I put in Lidl. I didn't think
> they had room for product lines that are outright crap but now I'm
> not so sure. :-(

Their bleach is poor too. Tesco Value is not only cheaper but much better.

But then I don't expect every single thing from any one shop to be perfect.

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[harry]

Just agitating water causes scale formation in hard water.
Hence scaling in cold water pipes and WC bowls

[therustyone]

> Didn't Which? review Calgon a while ago, and say it was completely
> unnecessary in washing machines?
>
> As for the OP, I wouldn't throw away the tablets, I would pop one in the
> loo cistern every month or so. Can't do any harm, I think.

Best not put anything in the cistern. I tried Harpic limescale remover to fix scale around the bowl rim. It didn't remove any scale but it softened the inlet valve seal which then leaked needed replacing.

[therustyone]

>
> You'll spend far more on calgon than it would cost to fix a fault caused by limescale. A descale with a little hot acid every 2 months is more practical. Citric works.
>
>

What if you have a 3 year manufacturer's guarantee and they tell you to use Calgon. Will it be invalidated if you don't, or use a cheaper alternative, like Sainsbury's.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <33a8a3bb-3e88-4ae7...@googlegroups.com>,

Did wonder about that. Probably why the disinfectant tablets designed to
be put inside the cistern don't include a de-scaler.

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[Roger Hayter]

pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:

> I can't fully understand the recommendation to put a tablet in the
> toilet cistern. I've lived in several hard water areas but don't
> recall seeing any limescale buildup in the loo. Maybe it happens in
> unseen parts.

People who are less scrupulous about keeping the toilet clean will see a
buid-up of lime scale below the rim and below the waterline. Also
probably streaks down the back surface. I fear that those who
frequently clean the surface may never see this happen because they are
cleaning away a fine, soft film of calcium salts each day. You are
possibly depriving yourself of this interesting practical chemistry
experience.



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Let me take yopu back many years to the GF of the time's loo...it
blocked. Eventually we got the water level don to normal, but slow....

so I set abut feeling 'round the bend'

To cut a long story short, we descaled chipped and smashed about 3kg of
shit and limestone from that loo. Over a period of several weekends.

Then of course she asked me to install a new one.

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[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <XnsA71876D...@81.171.92.183>,

pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:
> I can't fully understand the recommendation to put a tablet in the
> toilet cistern. I've lived in several hard water areas but don't
> recall seeing any limescale buildup in the loo. Maybe it happens in
> unseen parts.

It does tend to hide under the rim - so may not be noticeable unless you
get down and look.

It probably also depends on the design of the pan. With mine it does show
at the rear of the pan, and doesn't get shifted by normal cleaning.

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[Graham.]

>>
>Let me take yopu back many years to the GF of the time's loo...it
>blocked. Eventually we got the water level don to normal, but slow....
>
>so I set abut feeling 'round the bend'
>
>To cut a long story short,

UR HRH Charles, Prince of Wales &ICM£5!

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[Max Demian]

On 10/02/2017 11:40, pamela wrote:
> On 23:44 9 Feb 2017, therustyone wrote:
>
>>

> I can't fully understand the recommendation to put a tablet in the
> toilet cistern. I've lived in several hard water areas but don't
> recall seeing any limescale buildup in the loo. Maybe it happens in
> unseen parts.

It can build up under the rim over time. Limescale removing toilet
cleaners, containing hydrochloric acid, are available. "Do not mix with
bleach or any other household cleaners." Wise advice I would have
thought, since the packs look just like the bleach type.

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[The Natural Philosopher]

On 10/02/17 15:24, Graham. wrote:
>
>>>
>> Let me take yopu back many years to the GF of the time's loo...it
>> blocked. Eventually we got the water level don to normal, but slow....
>>
>> so I set abut feeling 'round the bend'
>>
>> To cut a long story short,
>
> UR HRH Charles, Prince of Wales &ICM£5!
>
>

Nah. Not me mate, though I actually like Camilla.




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[harry]

On Friday, 10 February 2017 13:52:15 UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <XnsA71876D...@81.171.92.183>,
> pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:
> > I can't fully understand the recommendation to put a tablet in the
> > toilet cistern. I've lived in several hard water areas but don't
> > recall seeing any limescale buildup in the loo. Maybe it happens in
> > unseen parts.
>
> It does tend to hide under the rim - so may not be noticeable unless you
> get down and look.

That's what the toilet cleaner thing with the bent nozzle is for. Squirting up under the rim.

[Mushy Devil]

On Friday, 10 February 2017 at 01:50:12 UTC+2, therustyone wrote:
> >
> > You'll spend far more on calgon than it would cost to fix a fault caused by limescale. A descale with a little hot acid every 2 months is more practical. Citric works.
> >
> >
> What if you have a 3 year manufacturer's guarantee and they tell you to use Calgon. Will it be invalidated if you don't, or use a cheaper alternative, like Sainsbury's.

3 years of using Calgon in every wash is more expensive than buying a new washing machine

[Brian Gaff (Sofa)]

Since 2017 he probably did that...
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[pinnerite]

A box of 75 cosrs £13.69 which works out at £0.1825 per tablet.
Using one per day 7 days per week for three years comes out at under £200.
Our Miele cost around £600 ten years ago and still as good as new.


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[alan_m]

On 05/11/2020 17:50, pinnerite wrote:

> A box of 75 cosrs £13.69 which works out at £0.1825 per tablet.
> Using one per day 7 days per week for three years comes out at under £200.
> Our Miele cost around £600 ten years ago and still as good as new.
>

My washing machine cost less than £200 nine years ago and is still going
strong without using Calgon.

Used mainly on a cold wash it occasionally gets a dose of washing soda
on the hottest wash cycle.

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[polygonum_on_google]

On Wednesday, 8 February 2017 11:35:29 UTC, Bob Eager wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 11:26:33 +0000, pamela wrote:
>
> > I live in a hard water area and recently saw some own brand "W5
> > Limescale tablets" for washing machinesat my local Lidl.
> >
> > I bought them thinking they must be useful because Lidl tends to sell
> > no-nonsense items and I guessed Lidl was stocking them in my branch
> > because there's a local demand on account of the water hardness.
> >
> > http://www.lidlcommunity.co.uk/t5/Product-Reviews/W5-Limescale-
> > Tablets/cns-p/4171
> >

Lidl sell such tablets here as well. We have pretty darned soft water.

> > However, sites like this say you don't need laundry water softening
> > tablets at all.
> >
> > https://www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/is-calgon-worth-using/
> >
> > We don't actually have any problems with our 5 years old washing
> > machine, so am I a bit of a mug?
> >
> > I don't want to waste my time going through a ritual of putting in a
> > tablet for the next 50 washes if it's no use. I would rather throw the
> > pack in the dustbin.
>

> I live in a hard water area.
>
> Our washing machine developed a leak round the heater after 12 years of
> heavy use (it was a hardened rubber seal). There was no significant
> scale, and we had never used anything to 'fix' the water.
>
> No other appliances have shown significant scale, either (well, a bit in
> the kettle).
>

I used to live in a very hard water area. Plenty of scale deposited in things like kettles, you could even see it in pans as they heated up on the hob.

But our washing machines never suffered from any scale. There was some on the heater elements, but not enough to be a problem.

What I want is a foolproof way of preventing any mould forming, especially round the door seal.

[Bob Eager]

On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 08:56:25 +0000, alan_m wrote:

> On 05/11/2020 17:50, pinnerite wrote:
>
>> A box of 75 cosrs £13.69 which works out at £0.1825 per tablet.
>> Using one per day 7 days per week for three years comes out at under
>> £200.
>> Our Miele cost around £600 ten years ago and still as good as new.
>>
>>
> My washing machine cost less than £200 nine years ago and is still going
> strong without using Calgon.
>
> Used mainly on a cold wash it occasionally gets a dose of washing soda
> on the hottest wash cycle.

Our old Hotpoint lasted fifteen years; I fitted door seal, bearings,
heater and motor brushes. Eventually the motor blew up.

The heater didn't actually fail, but the integral seal hardened and
started to leak. We are in a hard water area. There was practically NO
scale on it, and we never used Calgon.

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polygonum_on_google brought next idea :

> But our washing machines never suffered from any scale. There was some on the
> heater elements, but not enough to be a problem.
>
> What I want is a foolproof way of preventing any mould forming, especially
> round the door seal.

Me too! The lip on the seal, which retains a little water. I've tried a
little bleach left on it to soak, but it makes no difference.

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 06/11/2020 08:56, alan_m wrote:
> On 05/11/2020 17:50, pinnerite wrote:
>
>> A box of 75 cosrs £13.69 which works out at £0.1825 per tablet.
>> Using one per day 7 days per week for three years comes out at under
>> £200.
>> Our Miele cost around £600 ten years ago and still as good as new.
>>
>
> My washing machine cost less than £200 nine years ago and is still going
> strong without using Calgon.
>
> Used mainly on a cold wash it occasionally gets a dose of washing soda
> on the hottest wash cycle.
>

On the packet of my lays purchase of washing powder tablets it says 'use
two in hard water areas'

I assume it has a Calgon equivalent built in...

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pinnerite <pinn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2020 09:35:42 -0800, Mushy Devil wrote:
>
> > On Friday, 10 February 2017 at 01:50:12 UTC+2, therustyone wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You'll spend far more on calgon than it would cost to fix a fault
> >> > caused by limescale. A descale with a little hot acid every 2 months
> >> > is more practical. Citric works.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> What if you have a 3 year manufacturer's guarantee and they tell you to
> >> use Calgon. Will it be invalidated if you don't, or use a cheaper
> >> alternative, like Sainsbury's.
> >
> > 3 years of using Calgon in every wash is more expensive than buying a
> > new washing machine
>
> A box of 75 cosrs £13.69 which works out at £0.1825 per tablet.
> Using one per day 7 days per week for three years comes out at under £200.
> Our Miele cost around £600 ten years ago and still as good as new.
>

But wait a minute, you've been using the tablets for 10 years
presumably, cost well over £600.

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[Pancho]

On 06/11/2020 09:50, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 06/11/2020 08:56, alan_m wrote:
>> On 05/11/2020 17:50, pinnerite wrote:
>>
>>> A box of 75 cosrs £13.69 which works out at £0.1825 per tablet.
>>> Using one per day 7 days per week for three years comes out at under
>>> £200.
>>> Our Miele cost around £600 ten years ago and still as good as new.
>>>
>>
>> My washing machine cost less than £200 nine years ago and is still
>> going strong without using Calgon.
>>
>> Used mainly on a cold wash it occasionally gets a dose of washing soda
>> on the hottest wash cycle.
>>
> On the packet of my lays purchase of washing powder tablets it says 'use
> two in hard water areas'
>
> I assume it has a Calgon equivalent built in...
>

Does your "lay" like being referred to in such terms?

[Pancho]

And I think you need two because hard water decreases the detergent's
cleaning efficiency, so you need more, rather than two protect the machine.

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 06/11/2020 13:54, Pancho wrote:

Normally it would be "latest". typo

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