Why do people rev up petrol strimmers?

[Commander Kinsey]

Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!

[Peeler]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:10:35 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka "Commander Kinsey",
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[alan_m]

On 25/07/2021 17:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to
> be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!

Probably for the same reason you don't stay in tick-over when you
attempt to move away in your car.

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[Richard Cranium]

Why don't you just fuck off and die unemployable PHucker? How many years
have you been on the dole for? Wanker.
Yet another troll post and some sad people here will fall for it and reply
to you with sense, instead of telling you to fuck off.

[Peeler]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 18:32:23 +0100, anal_m, the notorious troll-feeding
senile retard, blathered again:

> Probably for the same reason you don't stay in tick-over when you
> attempt to move away in your car.

Nope because it allows the attention whore and wanker to post yet more
retarded questions on Usenet, senile asshole!

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:57:17 +0100, Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 12:10:42 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!
>

> Why do you rev up your petrol vehicles? Surely the engine would prefer to be kept at
> a constant speed.

You don't change it that often, only when you need to go a different speed. There's no need to slow down the strimmer for 1 second while you're not cutting.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:58:08 +0100, Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 12:10:42 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:

>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!
>

> Why did you make your "constant speed" comment a question?

Because I'm inviting people to tell me why the engine wouldn't prefer it. Have you never heard something like "surely it's not going to rain today?" to which the response could be "yes it will, because the weather forecast you watched is shite".

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 18:32:23 +0100, alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On 25/07/2021 17:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to
>> be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!
>
> Probably for the same reason you don't stay in tick-over when you
> attempt to move away in your car.

But you don't stick it back in neutral for a second when you don't need power.

[Commander Kinsey]

Get a killfile Steve.

[Rod Speed]

Commander Kinsey <C...@nospam.com> wrote

> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers?

To piss off OCDers like you.

> Surely the engine would prefer to be kept at a constant speed?

No one cares what some engine prefers.

And even you should have noticed you rev up car and motorbike engines.

> The neighbours would certainly prefer it!

Fuckem.

[NY]

"Commander Kinsey" <C...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:op.063gj...@ryzen.lan...

> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to
> be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!

That applies to so many small petrol engines. Why not run the engine at a
constant speed, which is so much less irritating that an engine which is
constantly speeding up and slowing down. It's the same with scrambler bikes
which rarely run at constant engine speed for more than a second at a time.

A larger, lower-speed engine would help so it had the torque to do the job
without screaming at 10-20 thousand RPM.

I wonder how long fast-revving two-stroke engines, with the vile-smelling
exhaust, will remain legal. When we bought a petrol mower, we got a
four-stroke one that runs at a lower speed and doesn't kick out oily blue
smoke. Sadly petrol was the only option, because we have a very large garden
so a) a battery would not last very long in a battery-electric mower before
needing to be charged for several hours before the next bit of the lawn
could be cut, and b) I'd need a couple of hundred metres of extension cable
for a mains-electric mower.

[Rod Speed]

Commander Kinsey <C...@nospam.com> wrote
> alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote

>> Commander Kinsey wrote

>>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to
>>> be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!

>> Probably for the same reason you don't stay in tick-over when you attempt
>> to move away in your car.

> But you don't stick it back in neutral for a second when you don't need
> power.

Some do and its not just for a second either.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Has nothing to do with the mechanics of the engine running. Has
everything to do with the sound. Guys just like vrooom vrooooom.

[Tim+]

Did you look at robotic mowers? My sister has one. Very quiet any will work
away unattended, charging itself when needed. By necessity it has to be a
mulching mower which may not suit you.

Tim

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[NY]

"Tim+" <tim.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161023942.648933011.452...@news.individual.net...

> Did you look at robotic mowers? My sister has one. Very quiet any will
> work
> away unattended, charging itself when needed. By necessity it has to be a
> mulching mower which may not suit you.

Funny you should say that. We did look at robotic mowers and it's still an
option if I get fed up of mowing the lawn. Most of our neighbours with
similar size gardens have ride-on mowers, but they leave the lawn looking
very patchy and they often still need a push mower for all the fiddly bits -
and our garden has a *lot* of fiddly bits.

When I used to mulch the grass (ie let it come out of the back of the mower
onto the lawn), I could do the whole lawn in a few hours. Now I collect the
grass and take it to the tip, it takes longer because of all the times I
have to stop and empty the grass box into the rubbish sack, and then take
the sack up to the car and bring the next one down. But I still keep at it.
A ride-on would be fun but expensive. A robotic mower would be great fun to
watch. I presume it would have to run continuously to avoid the Forth Bridge
problem - ie you need to start at the beginning again as soon as (or even
before!) you've finished, to keep the grass short.

There is also the problem that the only places where the robot's "charging
home" could be situated, with an electricity supply, are the wrong side of
the gravel drive which I imagine the mower could not run across. Certainly
the push mower and the wheelbarrow get bogged down in the damn gravel - it
was there when we bought the house...

[Peeler]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:53:58 +0100, NY, the really endlessly blathering,
notorious, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered, yet again:

> That applies to so many small petrol engines.

Just what kind of a perverted troll-feeding senile SHITHEAD are you, sicko?

<FLUSH the rest of your usual idiotic lengthy bullshit unread>

[Peeler]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 04:52:46 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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[Peeler]

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[JNugent]

I'll go with that. I like the sound of a crosscut shredder when I put
correspondence through it.

[rbowman]

That has a lot to do with it but two-stroke engines are notorious for
fouling their plugs at idle. The classic Harley engine also isn't great
at idle. It's a wasted spark design with both cylinders firing together
with one cylinder on the compression stroke and one on the exhaust
stroke. At idle speeds the cylinders aren't scavenged efficiently and
the engine is misfiring about 10% of the time. Modern FI engines adjust
better but back in the day engines with hot cams and 4 barrel carbs also
were very rough at idle.

[Peeler]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 14:00:13 -0600, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

> That has a lot to do with it but two-stroke engines are notorious for
> fouling their plugs at idle.

Some guys like to hear the sound of their engines, YOU like to hear the
sound of your own voice, right, senile blabbermouth? <BG>

[Jim Joyce]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:53:58 +0100, "NY" <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>When we bought a petrol mower, we got a
>four-stroke one that runs at a lower speed and doesn't kick out oily blue
>smoke. Sadly petrol was the only option, because we have a very large garden
>so a) a battery would not last very long in a battery-electric mower before
>needing to be charged for several hours before the next bit of the lawn
>could be cut, and b) I'd need a couple of hundred metres of extension cable
>for a mains-electric mower.

Battery technology, specifically run time and charge time, has improved in
recent years. My neighbor's riding mower has a dual battery setup that's
advertised to run for about 90 minutes on the batteries that it came with,
but you can either get a second set of batteries and swap them out mid-job,
or get a set with higher capacity. When she mows, she's done with the rider
in less than 45 minutes so she never runs into the charge limit.

Then she switches over to her battery powered push mower to finish what the
rider was unable to reach. There, too, the single battery provides more run
time than she needs.

Next, she switches over to her battery powered string trimmer, which would
run way longer than she needs it to.

Finally, she grabs the battery-powered leaf blower to blow off the driveway
and sidewalks.

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <sdkc0k$n12$1...@dont-email.me>, m...@privacy.invalid says...

>
> I wonder how long fast-revving two-stroke engines, with the vile-smelling
> exhaust, will remain legal. When we bought a petrol mower, we got a
> four-stroke one that runs at a lower speed and doesn't kick out oily blue
> smoke. Sadly petrol was the only option, because we have a very large garden
> so a) a battery would not last very long in a battery-electric mower before
> needing to be charged for several hours before the next bit of the lawn
> could be cut, and b) I'd need a couple of hundred metres of extension cable
> for a mains-electric mower.
>
>
>

I think that is some parts of the US the 2 stroke engines for most lawn
equipment are illegal to sell now. I know on some lakes the engines
that put out polution are not allowed.

I hate the slow running engines. They are mainly that way in the US due
to the safety factor that someone decided on. The blade speed can not
be but so fast for the home owners. They do not mow with a crap. I
think the professional mowers do not follow the same rules.

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <unjrfghu4te4lvqjf...@4ax.com>,
no...@none.invalid says...

>
> Battery technology, specifically run time and charge time, has improved in
> recent years. My neighbor's riding mower has a dual battery setup that's
> advertised to run for about 90 minutes on the batteries that it came with,
> but you can either get a second set of batteries and swap them out mid-job,
> or get a set with higher capacity. When she mows, she's done with the rider
> in less than 45 minutes so she never runs into the charge limit.
>
> Then she switches over to her battery powered push mower to finish what the
> rider was unable to reach. There, too, the single battery provides more run
> time than she needs.
>
> Next, she switches over to her battery powered string trimmer, which would
> run way longer than she needs it to.
>
> Finally, she grabs the battery-powered leaf blower to blow off the driveway
> and sidewalks.
>
>
>

I won't even think about battery powered devices for replacing gas
engines unless the company is a big one and guarentees the battery for
as long as you own the equipment.

I have had to throw away many battery powered hand tools because of the
battery. Many times you can get an updated drill with 2 new batteries
and charger for the cost of just the batteries. Then those batteries
are not compatiable with the older drill. Too bad there are no
standards for the rechargable power packs where one pack will fit in
several companies tools. Like a standard 9 volt battery will fit in
hundreds of devices. Or the AA,AAA, C and D cells fit many devices.

[Roger Mills]

On 25/07/2021 17:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to
> be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!

Let's assume for a moment that it's a serious question - though I doubt it!

The connection between the engine and the working end is via a
centrifugal clutch. At idling speed, the cutters don't rotate. Only when
you rev the engine does the clutch engage and allow the thing to cut.

I suspect that you knew that all along!
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[Rod Speed]

Roger Mills <watt....@gmail.com> wrote

No he doesn't, as always. Same with chainsaws.

[Peeler]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 23:00:39 +0100, Roger Mills, another brain damaged,
troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

> Let's assume for a moment that it's a serious question - though I doubt it!

Let's assume for a moment that he's an attention-starved troll and you a
miserable, senile, troll-feeding asshole who is so miserable that it
thankfully will take the filthy troll's idiotic bait! It suddenly all adds
up! <BG>

[Rod Speed]

Ralph Mowery <rmow...@charter.net> wrote
> no...@none.invalid wrote

>> Battery technology, specifically run time and charge time, has improved
>> in
>> recent years. My neighbor's riding mower has a dual battery setup that's
>> advertised to run for about 90 minutes on the batteries that it came
>> with,
>> but you can either get a second set of batteries and swap them out
>> mid-job,
>> or get a set with higher capacity. When she mows, she's done with the
>> rider
>> in less than 45 minutes so she never runs into the charge limit.
>>
>> Then she switches over to her battery powered push mower to finish what
>> the
>> rider was unable to reach. There, too, the single battery provides more
>> run
>> time than she needs.
>>
>> Next, she switches over to her battery powered string trimmer, which
>> would
>> run way longer than she needs it to.
>>
>> Finally, she grabs the battery-powered leaf blower to blow off the
>> driveway
>> and sidewalks.

> I won't even think about battery powered devices for replacing
> gas engines unless the company is a big one and guarentees
> the battery for as long as you own the equipment.

OTOH you can make a case for the convenience
of a battery over stupid little quirky gas engines
even if they don't last as long, particularly with
the major manufacturers who keep supplying
replacement batterys if you need them.

> I have had to throw away many battery powered
> hand tools because of the battery. Many times
> you can get an updated drill with 2 new batteries
> and charger for the cost of just the batteries.

But you do have the convenience of the battery powered tool.

[Peeler]

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[Peeler]

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[Jim Joyce]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:49:26 -0400, Ralph Mowery <rmow...@charter.net>
wrote:

>In article <unjrfghu4te4lvqjf...@4ax.com>,
>no...@none.invalid says...
>>
>> Battery technology, specifically run time and charge time, has improved in
>> recent years. My neighbor's riding mower has a dual battery setup that's
>> advertised to run for about 90 minutes on the batteries that it came with,
>> but you can either get a second set of batteries and swap them out mid-job,
>> or get a set with higher capacity. When she mows, she's done with the rider
>> in less than 45 minutes so she never runs into the charge limit.
>>
>> Then she switches over to her battery powered push mower to finish what the
>> rider was unable to reach. There, too, the single battery provides more run
>> time than she needs.
>>
>> Next, she switches over to her battery powered string trimmer, which would
>> run way longer than she needs it to.
>>
>> Finally, she grabs the battery-powered leaf blower to blow off the driveway
>> and sidewalks.
>>
>>
>>
>
>I won't even think about battery powered devices for replacing gas
>engines unless the company is a big one and guarentees the battery for
>as long as you own the equipment.

If you're going to make that one of your personal requirements, then I
agree, you won't be using battery powered tools anytime soon. I don't think
most people would have that kind of rule, though. I certainly don't. I use
the heck out of my cordless tools, to the point where I've dropped off
their corded equivalents at Habitat ReStore so someone else can have them.

> I have had to throw away many battery powered hand tools because of the
>battery. Many times you can get an updated drill with 2 new batteries
>and charger for the cost of just the batteries. Then those batteries
>are not compatiable with the older drill.

Most of the name brands make an effort to keep their batteries compatible
across their tool lines and across a long period of years. My Bosch and
Dewalt cordless tools are still on their original batteries after 7-8 years
of home project use, but both of those companies still use compatible
batteries on their current products. My neighbor uses all Ryobi, which I'm
not fond of as a tool brand, but there too, Ryobi has been making batteries
for years that remain compatible with their older stuff.

I get your point, though. Brand X batteries aren't compatible with Brand Y
tools or Brand Z tools or anything other than Brand X, and vice versa.
You'll see people doing Frankenstein hacks on Youtube to make them work,
but that's not a task for the mainstream.

[Steve Walker]

I have ended up getting rid of a0 Makita and two Bosch battery drills
due to battery failures.

I have also got rid of a Bosch strimmer due to battery failure - only
used half a dozen times, as we bought it to trim around M-I-L and
F-I-L's grave and we use a mains one at home.

Typically they were all flat or part flat when needed anyway. The
Hitachi drill I have now uses Li-ion batteries and is much better from
that point of view.

Things are getting better and using purely battery equipment is becoming
more practical.

However the petrol mower I was given is a revelation - being far better
than even the mains mower that we were using before.

[Ed Pawlowski]

There are rebuilders that replace the cells at reasonable cost. I've
not needed them for a while but they were about half price compared to new.

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 25/07/2021 19:53, NY wrote:
> I wonder how long fast-revving two-stroke engines, with the
> vile-smelling exhaust, will remain legal.

As long as there is a need for a lightweight power unit. That lasts
longer than half an hour.

2 strokes simply have better power to weight ratios.


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[Ralph Mowery]

In article <ibprfghmejtk551ri...@4ax.com>,
no...@none.invalid says...

>
> Most of the name brands make an effort to keep their batteries compatible
> across their tool lines and across a long period of years. My Bosch and
> Dewalt cordless tools are still on their original batteries after 7-8 years
> of home project use, but both of those companies still use compatible
> batteries on their current products. My neighbor uses all Ryobi, which I'm
> not fond of as a tool brand, but there too, Ryobi has been making batteries
> for years that remain compatible with their older stuff.
>
>

I have a Dewalt drill that uses the old nicads that quit taking a
charge. I probably only use it 4 or 5 times a year. It is not that
old. I replaced it with a kit of drill and impact driver that uses the
ion type batteries. No capatability,but I found an acapter that lets
me use the ion batteries in the old drill for under $ 20.

[Bob F]

On 7/25/2021 10:33 AM, Richard Cranium wrote:

> Why don't you just fuck off and die unemployable PHucker? How many years
> have you been on the dole for? Wanker.
> Yet another troll post and some sad people here will fall for it and reply
> to you with sense, instead of telling you to fuck off.
>
>

And why do you keep repeating his idiocy, instead of blocking it like
everyone else here.

[Brian Gaff (Sofa)]

Frightened it will stall? Are we talking the very puny ones that still use
plastic cord, or the beefy flail type devices with metal type cutting gear.
I would think the latter are made to be used at a constant rate, the council
blokes seem to use them like that but some of the puny types seem not only
to need to be revved up but kick out enough burned oil and particles that
they might be considered as causing breathing difficulties if you don't wear
a mask near them. A blue haze follows them down the garden and everyone
next door smoke alarms go off within 50 feet.

Brian

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[Spike]

On 25/07/2021 17:32, alan_m wrote:
> On 25/07/2021 17:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:

>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to
>> be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!

> Probably for the same reason you don't stay in tick-over when you
> attempt to move away in your car.

Try putting C...@nospam.com in the 'Delete' section of your message filter...

--
Spike

[Unknown]

NY submitted this idea :

> A ride-on would be fun but expensive.

Fun, quick, but not that expensive. They can be had second hand for not
a lot and once bought, they are cheap to run. I guess mine (on my
second now) have been cheaper on fuel than a follow behind mower.
Follow behind would take most of the day, leaving me worn out = little
tractor mower flys round in 30 minutes effortlessly.

[JNugent]

Sometimes, Mr PH / CK / whatever asks an intriguing question about a
subject that some find of interest.

Not every question, and perhaps not the majority of his questions, fall
into that category. But enough do that he gets a fair response to them.

That is the whole purpose of usenet.

[Buck Fiden]

I'd love to have battery tools like that but they all have one problem...she'll have to take out a second mortgage to replace all the proprietary batteries in ~5 years.

In fact, replacement batteries remind me of the printer ink cartridge scam.

And with bidenflation, the prices of proprietary batteries will go through the roof.

[Buck Fiden]

On 7/25/21 5:49 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
> Too bad there are no
> standards for the rechargable power packs where one pack will fit in
> several companies tools. Like a standard 9 volt battery will fit in
> hundreds of devices. Or the AA,AAA, C and D cells fit many devices.

Yah, since most battery packs use 18650 cells internally, the tree-huggin' leftist asshat engineers should design battery packs so the user could *easily* replace the individual cells.

[Peeler]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 11:08:30 +0100, JNugent, another demented, notorious,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:

Enough of senile assholes here who are thankful when they can bullshit about
ANY sick idiotic question and off topic shit and bait that some PROVEN
clinically insane troll keeps setting out for them time and again, senile
asshole.

If you look closely, that troll's idiotic baits produce the longest and
longest-lasting threads thanks to the totally demented senile assholes here.

> That is the whole purpose of usenet.

No, Usenet was NOT created with endlessly blathering senile idiots in mind!

[Bob F]

Then quit whining when he gives you his usual garbage.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 20:31:16 +0100, NY <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> "Tim+" <tim.d...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161023942.648933011.452...@news.individual.net...
>> Did you look at robotic mowers? My sister has one. Very quiet any will
>> work
>> away unattended, charging itself when needed. By necessity it has to be a
>> mulching mower which may not suit you.
>
> Funny you should say that. We did look at robotic mowers and it's still an
> option if I get fed up of mowing the lawn. Most of our neighbours with
> similar size gardens have ride-on mowers, but they leave the lawn looking
> very patchy and they often still need a push mower for all the fiddly bits -
> and our garden has a *lot* of fiddly bits.
>
> When I used to mulch the grass (ie let it come out of the back of the mower
> onto the lawn), I could do the whole lawn in a few hours. Now I collect the
> grass and take it to the tip, it takes longer because of all the times I
> have to stop and empty the grass box into the rubbish sack, and then take
> the sack up to the car and bring the next one down. But I still keep at it.
> A ride-on would be fun but expensive. A robotic mower would be great fun to
> watch. I presume it would have to run continuously to avoid the Forth Bridge
> problem - ie you need to start at the beginning again as soon as (or even
> before!) you've finished, to keep the grass short.
>
> There is also the problem that the only places where the robot's "charging
> home" could be situated, with an electricity supply, are the wrong side of
> the gravel drive which I imagine the mower could not run across. Certainly
> the push mower and the wheelbarrow get bogged down in the damn gravel - it
> was there when we bought the house...

Surely you can run a new power line? Is your grass not next to a building, like the house?

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 22:01:54 +0100, Jim Joyce <no...@none.invalid> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:53:58 +0100, "NY" <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>
>> When we bought a petrol mower, we got a
>> four-stroke one that runs at a lower speed and doesn't kick out oily blue
>> smoke. Sadly petrol was the only option, because we have a very large garden
>> so a) a battery would not last very long in a battery-electric mower before
>> needing to be charged for several hours before the next bit of the lawn
>> could be cut, and b) I'd need a couple of hundred metres of extension cable
>> for a mains-electric mower.
>
> Battery technology, specifically run time and charge time, has improved in
> recent years.

The battery mower I've seen actually runs on two Li Ion drill batteries. It's shit. It'll only take 1 inch off the grass length or it can't turn the motor. It can't handle moss. It only runs for 30 or 40 minutes.

[Commander Kinsey]

It's very easy to replace them, you just need a screwdriver and a soldering iron, it's not rocket science. I've even upgraded an ancient drill form NiCad to LiIon. Don't ever use NiMH, thy overheat drastically!

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:53:58 +0100, NY <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote:

> "Commander Kinsey" <C...@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:op.063gj...@ryzen.lan...

>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to
>> be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!
>

> That applies to so many small petrol engines. Why not run the engine at a
> constant speed, which is so much less irritating that an engine which is
> constantly speeding up and slowing down. It's the same with scrambler bikes
> which rarely run at constant engine speed for more than a second at a time.
>
> A larger, lower-speed engine would help so it had the torque to do the job
> without screaming at 10-20 thousand RPM.

I don't care if it screams, but just keep it screaming instead of the stop start pointless nonsense.

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <iJ-dnXX4AtUbEmP9...@giganews.com>,
buck....@maga.usa says...

>
> I'd love to have battery tools like that but they all have one problem...she'll have to take out a second mortgage to replace all the proprietary batteries in ~5 years.
>
> In fact, replacement batteries remind me of the printer ink cartridge scam.
>
> And with bidenflation, the prices of proprietary batteries will go through the roof.
>
>
>

The battery replacement has always been my gripe. How does Dewalt and I
am sure many others justify what they are doing. For the same price of
2 batteries to replace the ones on my drill, I was able to buy another
kit with 2 batteries, charger , drill and impact driver.

I had a leaf blower that was gas powered. It lasted almost 15 years .
I was able to buy a new one that was more powerful that is gas powered
for what some of the battery packs cost on the battery blowers. It may
cost more to run on the gas, but it will probably outlast any battery
pack.

I quit buying the HP printers because of the ink cartrige scam. As I
seldom did any color printing I bought a laser type all in one printer.
Much happier and it is much faster. Never have to worry about the ink
drying up in the printer if I do not print for a while.

Speaking of the batteries, many of the cell phones do not have a battery
that can be easily replaced. Guess that when the battery goes they
think you will get another phone. I don't use my phone very much and
it stays on charge for several days at a time. Around the house I still
have the landline by the computer. Works out well and it is tied into
the cell phone so that if I am away from the house phone , the cell
phone will ring at the same time.

[Ralph Mowery]

In article <op.0643w...@ryzen.lan>, C...@nospam.com says...

> Yah, since most battery packs use 18650 cells internally, the tree-huggin' leftist asshat engineers should design battery packs so the user could *easily* replace the individual cells.
>
> It's very easy to replace them, you just need a screwdriver and a soldering iron, it's not rocket science. I've even upgraded an ancient drill form NiCad to LiIon. Don't ever use NiMH, thy overheat drastically!
>
>

Many people do not have soldering equipment. I do have a very well
equiped electronic work bench, but just do not want to go through all
the trouble of taking the pack apart, finding cells and soldering them
in. Most likely the cost of the cells will be close to the pack
anyway.

[charles]

In article <MPG.3b68892d5...@news.eternal-september.org>,

A few weeks ago, I had a "battery failure" on piece of garden equipment.
Actually the cells were all fine - the faulty was in the management part on
a PCB.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

[JNugent]

I and others are entitled to agree with him (or maybe even with you)
when sensible arguments are advanced and not to agree with him (or with
you) when nonsense is put forward.

That's what usenet is all about.

[Peeler]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 16:04:31 +0100, JNugent, another demented, notorious,

troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:

> I and others are entitled to agree with him (or maybe even with you)
> when sensible arguments are advanced and not to agree with him (or with
> you) when nonsense is put forward.
>
> That's what usenet is all about.

ONLY if you are a typical troll-feeding senile asshole! And that's EXACTLY
what you are!

BTW, another proof of your being a typical troll-feeding senile asshole are
your idiotic long "discussions" going on between you and Rodent Speed over
in uk-d-i-y! Absolutely pathetic!

[Peeler]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:56:49 -0400, Ralph Mowery, another brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:

> Many people do not have soldering equipment. I do have a very well
> equiped electronic work bench, but just do not want to go through all
> the trouble

Well, why not, senile twit, when you even go through the trouble of
"conversing" with a KNOWN clinically insane troll? <BG>

[Peeler]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 16:04:31 +0100, JNugent, another demented, notorious,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered again:

>> Then quit whining when he gives you his usual garbage.
>
> I and others are entitled to agree with him (or maybe even with you)
> when sensible arguments are advanced and not to agree with him (or with
> you) when nonsense is put forward.

IOW, you REFUSE to admit that you ARE a troll-feeding senile asshole!

> That's what usenet is all about.

[Rod Speed]

Buck Fiden <buck....@maga.usa> wrote

> Ralph Mowery wrote

>> Too bad there are no standards for the rechargable
>> power packs where one pack will fit in several
>> companies tools. Like a standard 9 volt battery
>> will fit in hundreds of devices. Or the AA,AAA,
>> C and D cells fit many devices.

> Yah, since most battery packs use 18650 cells internally,

Yes.

> the tree-huggin' leftist asshat engineers should
> design battery packs so the user could *easily*
> replace the individual cells.

Trouble is that the individual cells are usually spot
welded together, so its not that easy to do.

[Peeler]

On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 04:34:29 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the trolling senile pest's latest trollshit unread>

--
MrTu...@down.the.farm about senile Rodent Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID: <ps10v9$uo2$1...@gioia.aioe.org>

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:10:37 +0100, Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 1:55:54 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:58:08 +0100, Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> > On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 12:10:42 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!
>> >

>> > Why did you make your "constant speed" comment a question?
>> Because I'm inviting people to tell me why the engine wouldn't prefer it. Have you never heard something like "surely it's not going to rain today?" to which the response could be "yes it will, because the weather forecast you watched is shite".
>
> Never. Why would people make a statement sound like a question?
>
> Pop quiz: Where is this happening?
>
> TODAY
> SUN 07/25
> HIGH 51 °F70% Precip. / 0.04 in
> Showers this morning becoming a steady light rain during
> the afternoon hours.
> High 51F.
> Winds S at 10 to 20 mph.
> Chance of rain 70%.

Nowhere, it's a forecast, which is never right.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:16:50 +0100, Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 1:54:42 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:

>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:57:17 +0100, Marilyn Manson <comawhit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 12:10:42 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> >> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!
>> >

>> > Why do you rev up your petrol vehicles? Surely the engine would prefer to be kept at
>> > a constant speed.
>> You don't change it that often, only when you need to go a different speed.
>
> ...or maintain a steady speed up or down a hill. Use cruise control...watch your revs...
> rarely rock solid depending on the terrain.

But definitely not minimum to maximum and back every few seconds.

>> There's no need to slow down the strimmer for 1 second while you're not cutting.
>
> You didn't specify a time frame in your OP. It takes me more than 1 second to walk from
> one cutting area to another.

I don't mind it slowing down for walking. I mean when someone is strimming an area and moving the cutter back and forth. They only strim in one direction and slow down to return.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 19:52:46 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Commander Kinsey <C...@nospam.com> wrote

>
>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers?
>

> To piss off OCDers like you.

>
>> Surely the engine would prefer to be kept at a constant speed?
>

> No one cares what some engine prefers.
>
> And even you should have noticed you rev up car and motorbike engines.

Not to that extent.

>> The neighbours would certainly prefer it!
>

> Fuckem.

Next one that does it I'm going to smash it up.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 20:01:25 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Commander Kinsey <C...@nospam.com> wrote

>> alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote
>>> Commander Kinsey wrote

>
>>>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to
>>>> be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!
>
>>> Probably for the same reason you don't stay in tick-over when you attempt
>>> to move away in your car.
>

>> But you don't stick it back in neutral for a second when you don't need
>> power.
>
> Some do and its not just for a second either.

It's worse when it's only a second, every other second.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 23:00:39 +0100, Roger Mills <watt....@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 25/07/2021 17:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to
>> be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!
>

> Let's assume for a moment that it's a serious question - though I doubt it!
>
> The connection between the engine and the working end is via a
> centrifugal clutch. At idling speed, the cutters don't rotate. Only when
> you rev the engine does the clutch engage and allow the thing to cut.
>
> I suspect that you knew that all along!

So why not leave it on full revs? Why "rest" it for one second inbetween bits you're cutting?

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 23:22:52 +0100, Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Roger Mills <watt....@gmail.com> wrote

>> Commander Kinsey wrote
>
>>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers?
>>> Surely the engine would prefer to be kept
>>> at a constant speed? The neighbours would
>>> certainly prefer it!
>
>> Let's assume for a moment that it's a
>> serious question - though I doubt it!
>
>> The connection between the engine and the working
>> end is via a centrifugal clutch. At idling speed, the
>> cutters don't rotate. Only when you rev the engine
>> does the clutch engage and allow the thing to cut.
>
>> I suspect that you knew that all along!
>

> No he doesn't, as always. Same with chainsaws.

Last time I used a chainsaw I forgot to oil it. The chain snapped and flew a considerable distance.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 25 Jul 2021 23:45:29 +0100, Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sunday, July 25, 2021 at 11:10:42 AM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!
>

> The cutters don't work if the machine is at an idle. Speed is necessary just as on lawnmowers. Maybe you should ask why there is an idle.

Why not leave it revved up?

[Commander Kinsey]

I use all types on full power continuously. I'm not objecting to the speed they get up to (they need that to cut). I'm objecting that people keep giving them a 1 second "rest" inbetween each little cut.


On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 08:11:02 +0100, Brian Gaff (Sofa) <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> Frightened it will stall? Are we talking the very puny ones that still use
> plastic cord, or the beefy flail type devices with metal type cutting gear.
> I would think the latter are made to be used at a constant rate, the council
> blokes seem to use them like that but some of the puny types seem not only
> to need to be revved up but kick out enough burned oil and particles that
> they might be considered as causing breathing difficulties if you don't wear
> a mask near them. A blue haze follows them down the garden and everyone
> next door smoke alarms go off within 50 feet.
>
> Brian

[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:25:29 +0100, Spike <Aero....@mail.invalid> wrote:

> On 25/07/2021 17:32, alan_m wrote:

>> On 25/07/2021 17:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
>
>>> Why do people rev up petrol strimmers? Surely the engine would prefer to
>>> be kept at a constant speed? The neighbours would certainly prefer it!
>

>> Probably for the same reason you don't stay in tick-over when you
>> attempt to move away in your car.
>

> Try putting C...@nospam.com in the 'Delete' section of your message filter...

Why don't you? Because you saw his reply. Your killfile sux.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 14:53:38 +0100, Ralph Mowery <rmow...@charter.net> wrote:

> In article <iJ-dnXX4AtUbEmP9...@giganews.com>,
> buck....@maga.usa says...
>>
>> I'd love to have battery tools like that but they all have one problem...she'll have to take out a second mortgage to replace all the proprietary batteries in ~5 years.
>>
>> In fact, replacement batteries remind me of the printer ink cartridge scam.
>>
>> And with bidenflation, the prices of proprietary batteries will go through the roof.
>
> The battery replacement has always been my gripe. How does Dewalt and I
> am sure many others justify what they are doing. For the same price of
> 2 batteries to replace the ones on my drill, I was able to buy another
> kit with 2 batteries, charger , drill and impact driver.

A battery pack is just a pile of several cells. Buy the cells.

> I had a leaf blower that was gas powered. It lasted almost 15 years .
> I was able to buy a new one that was more powerful that is gas powered
> for what some of the battery packs cost on the battery blowers. It may
> cost more to run on the gas, but it will probably outlast any battery
> pack.

I had a petrol leaf blower that lasted for one use. I couldn't start it the second time. On cylinder ffs, useless.

> I quit buying the HP printers because of the ink cartrige scam. As I
> seldom did any color printing I bought a laser type all in one printer.
> Much happier and it is much faster. Never have to worry about the ink
> drying up in the printer if I do not print for a while.

I have an Epson and have had Brother. Both of those have fake cheap cartridges available, especially Brother. And I got a continuous ink system for my Epson now, I just fill 100ml tanks every so often. £1 for 100ml is a lot less than £2 for a 15ml fake cartridge.

> Speaking of the batteries, many of the cell phones do not have a battery
> that can be easily replaced. Guess that when the battery goes they
> think you will get another phone. I don't use my phone very much and
> it stays on charge for several days at a time. Around the house I still
> have the landline by the computer. Works out well and it is tied into
> the cell phone so that if I am away from the house phone , the cell
> phone will ring at the same time.

Only Iphones don't let you just take them apart.

[Rod Speed]

Commander Kinsey <C...@nospam.com> wrote
> Ralph Mowery <rmow...@charter.net> wrote

Bullshit. You can take iphones apart.

[Peeler]

On Wed, 11 Aug 2021 06:24:53 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>


--
Another typical retarded "conversation" between Birdbrain and senile Rodent:

Senile Rodent: " Did you ever dig a hole to bury your own shit?"

Birdbrain: "I do if there's no flush toilet around."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, I prefer camping like that, off by myself with
no dunnys around and have always buried the shit."

MID: <fv66ka...@mid.individual.net>

[Commander Kinsey]

At my work, the janitors bought a DeWalt (you'd think quality?) cordless drill, top of the range. One of the batteries wouldn't work. I opened it and soldered a wire back on that hadn't been done properly and had fallen off. I guess that's how fires start in transporting batteries.

[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 14:56:49 +0100, Ralph Mowery <rmow...@charter.net> wrote:

> In article <op.0643w...@ryzen.lan>, C...@nospam.com says...
>> Yah, since most battery packs use 18650 cells internally, the tree-huggin' leftist asshat engineers should design battery packs so the user could *easily* replace the individual cells.
>>
>> It's very easy to replace them, you just need a screwdriver and a soldering iron, it's not rocket science. I've even upgraded an ancient drill form NiCad to LiIon. Don't ever use NiMH, thy overheat drastically!
>
> Many people do not have soldering equipment.

But they all know someone who does.

> I do have a very well
> equiped electronic work bench, but just do not want to go through all
> the trouble of taking the pack apart, finding cells and soldering them
> in.

It's actually a very easy task. Usually just an array of cells in honeycomb formation with tabs, soldered to each other.

> Most likely the cost of the cells will be close to the pack anyway.

Not in my experience. I've created a battery for a third of the price. And I know the cells in it are good ones and not Chinese shit.

[Commander Kinsey]

Solder works fine.

[Commander Kinsey]

Which makes them brick themselves and you lose everything.

[Rod Speed]

Commander Kinsey <C...@nospam.com> wrote

Depends on how the tabs are done, some don't solder well.

[Rod Speed]

Commander Kinsey <C...@nospam.com> wrote

More pig ignorant bullshit.
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/iPhone#Section_Guides

[Peeler]

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 05:10:29 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>

--

Typical retarded "conversation" between the Scottish wanker and the senile
Ozzietard:

Birdbrain: "Horse shit doesn't stink."

Senile Rodent: "It does if you roll in it."

Birdbrain: "I've never worked out why, I assumed it was maybe meateaters
that made stinky shit, but then why does vegetarian human shit stink? Is it
just the fact that we're capable of digesting meat?"

Senile Rodent: "Nope, some cow shit stinks too."

Message-ID: <fv5f1t...@mid.individual.net>

[Peeler]

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 05:14:14 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>


--

Another typical retarded "conversation" between the two resident idiots:

Birdbrain: "But imagine how cool it was to own slaves."

Senile Rodent: "Yeah, right. Feed them, clothe them, and fix them when
they're broken.
After all, you paid good money for them. Then you've got to keep an eye
on them all the time."

Birdbrain: "Better than having to give them wages on top of that."

Senile Rodent: "Specially when they make more slaves for you
and produce their own food and clothes."

MID: <fvlcdc...@mid.individual.net>

[Commander Kinsey]

I usually have to sand them first, then the solder gets a grip.

[Commander Kinsey]

https://www.ifixit.com/News/32343/apple-is-locking-batteries-to-iphones-now

[Rod Speed]

That's bullshit and taking the iphone apart doesn't brick the phone or lose
everything.

[Peeler]

On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 04:47:03 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>

--

Another typical retarded conversation between our two village idiots,
Birdbrain and Rodent Speed:

Birdbrain: "You beat me to it. Plain sex is boring."

Senile Rodent: "Then fuck the cats. That wont be boring."

Birdbrain: "Sell me a de-clawing tool first."

Senile Rodent: "Wont help with the teeth."

Birdbrain: "They've never gone for me with their mouths."

Rodent Speed: "They will if you are stupid enough to try fucking them."

Birdbrain: "No, they always use claws."

Rodent Speed: "They wont if you try fucking them. Try it and see."

Message-ID: <g3cjf7...@mid.individual.net>

[Commander Kinsey]

It came from the same website you used.

[Rod Speed]

I meant that your claim is bullshit. The most that
can happen is that the battery health number is
wrong and it claims there is an unsatisfactory battery.
The phone isn't bricked and everything isn't lost.

[Peeler]

On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 05:32:02 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>

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[Commander Kinsey]

It still shows Apple are a bunch of fucking criminals.

[Rod Speed]

More mindless bullshit. There is no way the phone can
calculate the battery health when it isn't their battery, stupid.

[Peeler]

On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 05:06:18 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

[Commander Kinsey]

Li Ion is a pretty standard thing.

[Rod Speed]

But the construction of the individual batterys isn't,
as you said yourself with the 18650s from china.
Its true in spades with non apple iphone batterys.

[Peeler]

On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 04:57:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>

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Another typical retarded "conversation" between the two resident idiots:

Birdbrain: "Indeed, in America they usually just shoot you."

Senile Rodent:"They hardly ever do that with cops."

Birdbrain: "Everybody shoots everybody over there,"

Senile Rodent: "Didn't notice Obama shooting anyone."

Birdbrain: "He's not American."

Senile Rodent: "Didn't notice Slick shooting anyone."

MID: <fvnuae...@mid.individual.net>

[Commander Kinsey]

Easy for a device to tell how full one is. They use the same chemistry.

[Rod Speed]

That's not battery health. Battery health is how much life it has left.

The phone reports how charged it is fine.

> They use the same chemistry.=

[Peeler]

On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 03:35:03 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

[Commander Kinsey]

Since they use the same chemistry, it should be able to tell. How is it reacting to charge/discharge compared to when it was installed (and assumed new) for example.

[Rod Speed]

How long before it dies isn't about the chemistry,
it's about the physical construction.

> How is it reacting to charge/discharge compared to when it was installed
> (and assumed new) for example.

That's not the battery health that's the storage capacity.

And with a non genuine battery you cant even assume it is new.

[Peeler]

On Mon, 23 Aug 2021 04:58:12 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

[Commander Kinsey]

You can see it getting weaker with age and work out when it will die. You can do that yourself, a computer would find it easy.

>> How is it reacting to charge/discharge compared to when it was installed
>> (and assumed new) for example.
>
> That's not the battery health that's the storage capacity.

It's the storage capacity that decreases with time.

> And with a non genuine battery you cant even assume it is new.

It doesn't really matter. You watch how it weakens over time from when you got it.

[Rod Speed]

Nope, plenty of the fakes aren't that predictable.

> You can do that yourself, a computer would find it easy.

Nope, plenty of the fakes aren't that predictable.

And if you could do it yourself, you wouldn't
care if the phone doesn't report the battery
health with a non genuine battery anyway.

>>> How is it reacting to charge/discharge compared to when it was installed
>>> (and assumed new) for example.
>>
>> That's not the battery health that's the storage capacity.
>
> It's the storage capacity that decreases with time.

Its much more complicated than that.

>> And with a non genuine battery you cant even assume it is new.
>
> It doesn't really matter. You watch how it weakens over time from when
> you got it.

Plenty of the fakes aren't that predictable.

[Peeler]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 04:53:26 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>

--
Another typical retarded "conversation" between the two resident idiots:

[Commander Kinsey]

They are in my experience. They just wear out faster, and start with a lower capacity.

>> You can do that yourself, a computer would find it easy.
>
> Nope, plenty of the fakes aren't that predictable.
>
> And if you could do it yourself, you wouldn't
> care if the phone doesn't report the battery
> health with a non genuine battery anyway.

Why do yourself what can be done for you. The whole point of a computer is to assist you.