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Sep 27, 2021, 4:55:04 PMSep 27
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I was having an issue with my Iphone suddenly having zero battery,
despite full charge, then lasting all day sometimes - all fixed with a
new OEM battery.

My noral use is for it to be on its charge stand most of the time, only
taken off when I go out. I understand this treatment is not good for
the battery, so I am looking at alternative methods...

I could power the USB charger via a Smart Plug, set to come on for an
hour per day, but phone use is variable, so might not be enough some
days. Ifeal would be for Alexa to turn the plug on when capcaity fell
to 70% off at 100% - is there any way I could do that, or any better
ideas please?

Theo

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Sep 27, 2021, 5:08:42 PMSep 27
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Harry Bloomfield, Esq. <a...@harrym1byt.plus.com> wrote:
> I was having an issue with my Iphone suddenly having zero battery,
> despite full charge, then lasting all day sometimes - all fixed with a
> new OEM battery.
>
> My noral use is for it to be on its charge stand most of the time, only
> taken off when I go out. I understand this treatment is not good for
> the battery, so I am looking at alternative methods...

Do you have Optimised Battery Charging turned on? It's intended for this
kind of usage. It tries to learn your habits and not keep the phone for
long times at high SOC.

> I could power the USB charger via a Smart Plug, set to come on for an
> hour per day, but phone use is variable, so might not be enough some
> days. Ifeal would be for Alexa to turn the plug on when capcaity fell
> to 70% off at 100% - is there any way I could do that, or any better
> ideas please?

That's roughly what this does:
https://chargie.org/

Basically there's an app that waits until the battery charges to xx% and
then sends a Bluetooth message to the supplied dongle to cut the charging
power. It's a crude solution to a problem that phone vendors could solve in
software, but there you are.

Theo

John Brown

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Sep 28, 2021, 2:25:37 AMSep 28
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Harry Bloomfield Esq. <a...@harrym1byt.plus.com> wrote

> I was having an issue with my Iphone suddenly having zero battery, despite
> full charge, then lasting all day sometimes - all fixed with a new OEM
> battery.
>
> My noral use is for it to be on its charge stand most of the time, only
> taken off when I go out. I understand this treatment is not good for the
> battery, so I am looking at alternative methods...
>
> I could power the USB charger via a Smart Plug, set to come on for an hour
> per day, but phone use is variable, so might not be enough some days.
> Ifeal would be for Alexa to turn the plug on when capcaity fell to 70% off
> at 100%

Its better for the life of the battery to start charging when below 20% and
off at 95%

- is there any way I could do that, or any better
> ideas please?

Most put it on the charger overnight.

Unknown

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Sep 28, 2021, 2:56:18 AMSep 28
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Theo presented the following explanation :
> Do you have Optimised Battery Charging turned on? It's intended for this
> kind of usage. It tries to learn your habits and not keep the phone for
> long times at high SOC.

I do have it enabled, but I am not seeing any difference as a result of
it - it always charges to 100%.

I will take a look at the chargie, thanks..

Unknown

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Sep 28, 2021, 2:59:11 AMSep 28
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John Brown expressed precisely :
> Most put it on the charger overnight.

That is something I could do - take it to bed with me...

My charger is in the living room, where the phone generally lives. If I
only have the charger at the bedside and put it on last thing at
night...

Adrian Caspersz

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Sep 28, 2021, 3:57:37 AMSep 28
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On 27/09/2021 21:54, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
> I was having an issue with my Iphone suddenly having zero battery,
> despite full charge, then lasting all day sometimes - all fixed with a
> new OEM battery.
>
> My noral use is for it to be on its charge stand most of the time, only
> taken off when I go out. I understand this treatment is not good for the
> battery, so I am looking at alternative methods...

Your phone should be able to overlook that, charging only when it thinks
it's necessary. It knows more about the charge / cycle state than you do.

Buy a replacement iPhone battery from iFixit. That's what I did a few
years ago, and my iPhone SE is still holding good charge, working I
think better than the Apple original.

It's not an original part (not that you can get original parts anyway),
and certainly not an OEM (as Apple would crucify them). But iFixit has a
good rep, so £30 went flying their way.

I wasted time changing an iPhone battery for a neighbour with a cheapie
bought from eBay, it didn't fix their charging problems.

This recent video sums it all up.

Its all a Scam! - Before Replacing Your Phone Battery Watch This -
Scams Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g41ivRm1ABk



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Adrian Caspersz

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Sep 28, 2021, 4:01:05 AMSep 28
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On 28/09/2021 08:57, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
> On 27/09/2021 21:54, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
>> I was having an issue with my Iphone suddenly having zero battery,
>> despite full charge, then lasting all day sometimes - all fixed with a
>> new OEM battery.

Ummm... I can't read :(

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Theo

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Sep 28, 2021, 4:28:20 AMSep 28
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Harry Bloomfield, Esq. <a...@harrym1byt.plus.com> wrote:
> Theo presented the following explanation :
> > Do you have Optimised Battery Charging turned on? It's intended for this
> > kind of usage. It tries to learn your habits and not keep the phone for
> > long times at high SOC.
>
> I do have it enabled, but I am not seeing any difference as a result of
> it - it always charges to 100%.

It aims to charge the phone to 80% and then top it up to 100% when it
reckons you're going to need it. It's based on the idea that people plug in
the phone at bedtime and want to use it the next morning. A normal charge
would have it fast charging to be full after an hour and then sit at 100%
SOC for most of the night, which is wearing on the battery. Instead it
'learns' that you typically remove the phone from charge at 7am and so keeps
it at 80% until 6am and then starts charging the last 20% then. (Made up
numbers for this example) The idea is that the phone will be at 100% when
you wake up, but in the middle of the night it'll charge slower.

If your habits are more unpredictable that I suppose it doesn't do a good
job, and maybe the fallback when it doesn't know is to fast charge to 100%
like it does without the feature enabled.

Theo

Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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Sep 28, 2021, 4:55:05 AMSep 28
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Iphones are supposed to intelligently charge. IE not fully charge all the
time and manage the speed if its getting low and warn you, but I believe the
later models had this future optional in settings, might be worth checking
if its turned on, as I find it pretty good on my 10R, which still has its
original battery and is still fine.

Brian

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Unknown

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Sep 28, 2021, 5:02:12 AMSep 28
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Theo explained on 28/09/2021 :
> If your habits are more unpredictable that I suppose it doesn't do a good
> job, and maybe the fallback when it doesn't know is to fast charge to 100%
> like it does without the feature enabled.

Thanks, I will try the 'taking it to bed' and off the charger during
the day.

Unknown

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Sep 28, 2021, 5:12:42 AMSep 28
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) laid this down on his screen :
> Iphones are supposed to intelligently charge. IE not fully charge all the
> time and manage the speed if its getting low and warn you, but I believe the
> later models had this future optional in settings, might be worth checking if
> its turned on, as I find it pretty good on my 10R, which still has its
> original battery and is still fine.

The phone was bought as a 'refurb' a few years ago, when my first
Iphone needed a new battery. That one behaved very predictably.

This one simply behaved unpredicatably, dead when taken off charge
sometimes, lasting easily for the full day at others.

Rather than fit the battery myself, I took it to an independant
specialist and asked if they did OEM batteries - it took one out to
show me in an Apple box. The new battery is certainly living upto my
expectations and some.

RJH

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Sep 28, 2021, 6:56:24 AMSep 28
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On 28 Sep 2021 at 07:59:07 BST, "Harry Bloomfield, Esq."
I think that's what most people do - it's the most convenient.

There is a school of thought that suggests it's not best to keep it in the
bedroom while you're sleeping - never bothered me.
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Unknown

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Sep 28, 2021, 10:13:26 AMSep 28
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RJH submitted this idea :
> There is a school of thought that suggests it's not best to keep it in the
> bedroom while you're sleeping - never bothered me.

Mine is a left over habit from when I had a very busy at all hours
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