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geraint

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Sep 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/9/99
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Just stripping the walls from the old cottage I've bought, and under the 4th
layer of wallpaper, closest to the wall, was this strange wallpaper lining
which was black paper on one side, and aluminium foil (or similar) on the
other. There were only 4 strips of this in a corner where the surveyor
reported a damp patch.
What is this stuff? Why was it used.
The only 3 reasons I can see are either:
1. It's an old type of lining, and that it's probably not helped the wall
breathe - leading to damp
2. It's there because of the damp, and to prevent staining etc on the paper.
3. Somthing completely different!

Any suggestions most welcome!

hwyl!
geraint.

David Quinton

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On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:13:27 +0100, "geraint" <g...@beff.demon.co.u>
wrote:

>3. Somthing completely different!
>
>Any suggestions most welcome!
Apparently placing a reflective surface behind a radiator can result
in more heat getting into the room / less heat going into the wall.

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Nigel Orr

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On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:13:27 +0100, "geraint" <g...@beff.demon.co.u>
wrote:

>other. There were only 4 strips of this in a corner where the surveyor
>reported a damp patch.

A few things to stimulate your thought processes...

Water (unless very pure) is a reasonable conductor of electricity
Damp in a house is undesirable
Lots of people can make money from treating it
Surveyors are worried about being sued for missing it
When surveyors do their survey, they will probably bring with them a
'damp meter'
This is acutally a simple conductivity measurer- stick the 2 metal
prongs into the wall, and the little meter and beeper will give you an
indication of the conductivity of the wall.
Surveyors will then correlate this quantity with the 'dampness' of the
wall
A _very_ damp wall would be _very_ conductive
Silver foil is also _very_ conductive

Now, can you think why the surveyor might have thought the wall was
damp, but only in the area where you have found the foil?

>What is this stuff? Why was it used.

ISTR it was to reflect radiant heat, to try to improve energy
efficiency.

>3. Somthing completely different!

In the absence of any other signs of damp, I'd go for 3- it was put
there years ago to 'save energy', and most of it removed for
redecorating, but the surveyor happened on a scrap of it with his damp
meter prongs...

I could be wrong, but it's a convincing theory!

Nigel

Pallaeon

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SNIP

> A _very_ damp wall would be _very_ conductive
> Silver foil is also _very_ conductive

From this explanation one would expect to see a damp area mentioned in the
surveyors report
Was this the case?


SNIP

> >What is this stuff? Why was it used.
>
> ISTR it was to reflect radiant heat, to try to improve energy
> efficiency.

Where can you get this stuff?

Andrew

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geraint

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sgwennodd Pallaeon yn neges
<936887349.27034.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...

>SNIP
>
>> A _very_ damp wall would be _very_ conductive
>> Silver foil is also _very_ conductive
>
>From this explanation one would expect to see a damp area mentioned in the
>surveyors report
>Was this the case?
Yes it was in the report, but I was always a bit suspicious because the wall
felt warm + dry, whereas the surveyor said the readings were "in the red".

>
>SNIP
>
>> >What is this stuff? Why was it used.
>>
>> ISTR it was to reflect radiant heat, to try to improve energy
>> efficiency.
>
>Where can you get this stuff?

Pass - it's been there years. Layers and layers were on top of it, and there
were 2 strips each side of an exterior corner (not behind a radiator). What
made things stranger was that there is a slightly musty smell on the
wallpaper that came off - and whether this is due a small amount of damp, or
just old wallpaper, I don't know. I've sniffed and sniffed, and can't quite
work out what's smelly!

hwyl!
geraint.


geraint

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sgwennodd David Quinton yn neges ...

>On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:13:27 +0100, "geraint" <g...@beff.demon.co.u>
>wrote:
>>3. Somthing completely different!
>>
>>Any suggestions most welcome!
>Apparently placing a reflective surface behind a radiator can result
>in more heat getting into the room / less heat going into the wall.
But this was 4 strips/lengths, 2 on each side of a corner in the exterior
wall...... Nothing elsewhere in the room, and it's a _complete_ _PIG_ to get
off!

hwyl!
geraint.

Pallaeon

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> >SNIP
> >
> >> A _very_ damp wall would be _very_ conductive
> >> Silver foil is also _very_ conductive
> >
> >From this explanation one would expect to see a damp area mentioned in
the
> >surveyors report
> >Was this the case?
> Yes it was in the report, but I was always a bit suspicious because the
wall
> felt warm + dry, whereas the surveyor said the readings were "in the red".
>


Unreel, just think you could have turned down your palace because of damp!

Any comeback on the surveyor for trusting his tools too much?

Andy Wade

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geraint wrote ...

> >>Any suggestions most welcome!

Referring to your original post, I think the answer is no. 2. I don't know
what this stuff is (or was) called, but I've certainly seen it before.
It's something decorators used to use to cover up damp patches in order to
paper over them. It could delay having to deal with the underlying cause
for many years, as you may just have discovered...

--
Andy

Steve

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I used the stuff for its intended purpose (dampresisting) on a chimney wall that
had been very damp from a serious flashing problem (they were missing actually),
and couldn't wait too long for the wall to dry out into the room after I remade
the flashing. The foil stuff is fixed with rubber cement, with slightly lapping
joints. I only used it for the top three feet of a ten foot wall. The resulting
wallpapered surface is dry and unblemished.

Steve


Pallaeon

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Steve <blac...@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:37D842E6...@zen.co.uk...

Can you advise where I can get some from?

One corner of my brothers house is damp and keeps soiling the wall paper
he is about to sell it and if this stuff works then it is worth putting up
(this
is not to hide it the Surveyor should (may not :-)) find it!

geraint

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sgwennodd Pallaeon yn neges
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<toriad>

>Unreel, just think you could have turned down your palace because of damp!
Well, not really. I wasn't too concerned because
1. it's upstairs, so it wouldn't be rising damp,
2. the floorboards are dry
3. it's a 3-4ft thick cob wall - and if it was that damp it would have
turned to mud by now. :-)

>Any comeback on the surveyor for trusting his tools too much?

I await his response with interest. Will let you know!

hwyl!
geraint.


Keith Wootten

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In article <936864786.18052.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
geraint <g...@beff.demon.co.u> writes

[snipped]

>Just stripping the walls from the old cottage I've bought, and under the 4th
>layer of wallpaper, closest to the wall, was this strange wallpaper lining
>which was black paper on one side, and aluminium foil (or similar) on the
>other.

>3. Somthing completely different!

It's just *possible* that it was used as a radio aerial. I have
certainly seen designs for arrays of foil beneath wallpaper used for VHF
reception, so maybe this is a discreet AM aerial.

The idea behind the VHF arrays is that you make up for the attenuation
caused by the wall by using a very large area.

Well you did ask for something different...

>hwyl!
>geraint.

Nasty cough you've got there.


Cheers
--
Keith Wootten

geraint

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sgwennodd Keith Wootten yn neges ...
<toriad>

>It's just *possible* that it was used as a radio aerial. I have
>certainly seen designs for arrays of foil beneath wallpaper used for VHF
>reception, so maybe this is a discreet AM aerial.
>
>The idea behind the VHF arrays is that you make up for the attenuation
>caused by the wall by using a very large area.
>
>Well you did ask for something different...
Yes, but that's silly.:-)
Have you been watching Space1999 again?

>>hwyl!
>>geraint.
>
>Nasty cough you've got there.

I can feel another coming on.....

hwyl!
geraint.


Keith Wootten

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
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In article <937081586.3995.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, geraint
<g...@beff.demon.co.u> writes

[Flobalop. Weeeed!]

>sgwennodd Keith Wootten yn neges ...
><toriad>
>>It's just *possible* that it was used as a radio aerial. I have
>>certainly seen designs for arrays of foil beneath wallpaper used for VHF
>>reception, so maybe this is a discreet AM aerial.
>>
>>The idea behind the VHF arrays is that you make up for the attenuation
>>caused by the wall by using a very large area.
>>
>>Well you did ask for something different...

>Yes, but that's silly.:-)

A previous occupant, who was a little eccentric, used to sit in that
corner and meditate. The foil was an attempt to screen out the alien
mind-jamming rays.

Now *that's* silly.

But I'm sure that something very close to that has happened many times.
The world is big, and has more than a few eccentrics. Some years later,
the new house owner starts wondering...

>Have you been watching Space1999 again?

I don't have a TV. The mind-jamming signals can't penetrate my screened
room. Has it ever occurred to you that 'Mitsubishi' is 'Ihsi bust im'
backwards? Ha! Thought not.

>hwyl!
>geraint.

Bless you.
--
Keith Wootten

Dave Plowman

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In article <KnQJLCA6...@wootten.demon.co.uk>,

Keith Wootten <Ke...@wootten.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> A previous occupant, who was a little eccentric, used to sit in that
> corner and meditate. The foil was an attempt to screen out the alien
> mind-jamming rays.

> Now *that's* silly.

No it's not. It works perfectly, as does my elephant scarer in the garden.

--
Dave Plowman dave....@argonet.co.uk London SW 12
RIP Acorn


Steve

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Pallaeon wrote:

I got it from a "trade" wallpaper shop (which may explain many things !)

The shop was in Rochdale in Lancs. If you are desparate I could get you the
stuff and send it to you.

Steve

Geep

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In article <49405e96c1...@argonet.co.uk>, Dave Plowman
<dave....@argonet.co.uk> writes

>In article <KnQJLCA6...@wootten.demon.co.uk>,
> Keith Wootten <Ke...@wootten.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> A previous occupant, who was a little eccentric, used to sit in that
>> corner and meditate. The foil was an attempt to screen out the alien
>> mind-jamming rays.
>
>> Now *that's* silly.
>
> No it's not. It works perfectly, as does my elephant scarer in the garden.
>
<bg> obviously, cos there are no elephants in your garden ...
QED :)
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Graeme
Hertford, England

no-spam-here-please

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In article <937081586.3995.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, geraint
<g...@beff.demon.co.u> writes
>sgwennodd Keith Wootten yn neges ...
><toriad>
>>It's just *possible* that it was used as a radio aerial. I have
>>certainly seen designs for arrays of foil beneath wallpaper used for VHF
>>reception, so maybe this is a discreet AM aerial.
Wireless World published a design in the 1970s using foil behind the
wallpaper. IIRC called the "walltenna"
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Robin Smith

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no-spam-here-please <nos...@NOSPAM.demon.co.uk> writes:


Perhaps it was part of a Faraday cage to prevent the computer screen
being picked up by MI5 - your previous owners were KGB :-)

Geep

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In article <x2btb6k...@zdbaora.nat.bt.com>, Robin Smith
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>no-spam-here-please <nos...@NOSPAM.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> Wireless World published a design in the 1970s using foil behind the
>> wallpaper. IIRC called the "walltenna"
>
>Perhaps it was part of a Faraday cage to prevent the computer screen
>being picked up by MI5 - your previous owners were KGB :-)

You are Mike Corley AICMFF paranoias ...
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Hertford, England

a_v...@my-deja.com

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In article <37D842E6...@zen.co.uk>, Steve <blac...@zen.co.uk>
writes

>I used the stuff for its intended purpose (dampresisting) on a chimney
>wall that had been very damp from a serious flashing problem (they
>were missing actually), and couldn't wait too long for the wall to dry
>out into the room after I remade the flashing. The foil stuff is fixed
>with rubber cement, with slightly lapping joints. I only used it for
>the top three feet of a ten foot wall. The resulting wallpapered
>surface is dry and unblemished.

Very clever but what we want to know is whether it will keep out
microwaves. Agents of the Judeo-Masonic Faction have been beaming
microwaves at us for years to try to drive us mad ever since we
destroyed the implant they put in our head by heating it up in the
warming oven. We have had to wear aluminum foil turbans ever since but
we have recently started to feel a little queer from time to time.
Either they have changed their microwave beams or the foil turban may
have slipped. We would like to paper the house with aluminum foil to
keep out the microwaves even if our turban falls off.


--
Garry Bucknall
pp. The Avengers

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Paul C. Dickie

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In article <937081586.3995.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, geraint
<g...@beff.demon.co.u> writes
>sgwennodd Keith Wootten yn neges ...
>>It's just *possible* that it was used as a radio aerial. I have
>>certainly seen designs for arrays of foil beneath wallpaper used for VHF
>>reception, so maybe this is a discreet AM aerial.
>>The idea behind the VHF arrays is that you make up for the attenuation
>>caused by the wall by using a very large area.
>>Well you did ask for something different...
>Yes, but that's silly.:-)

Silly or not, I have seen designs for *dish* aerials -- to receive
satellite transmissions -- that used flat pieces of aluminium foil.
Apparently, they worked somewhat after the manner of a fresnel lens.

>hwyl!
>geraint.

Try Buttercup Syrup.

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< Paul >

Paul Julian Gould

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Well, at least cats won't pee on your head. They hate the sound of it
hitting the foil.

Furthermore, you were supposed to destroy the implant by sticking your
head in a microwave oven. All a warming oven will do is burn your hair
off. Try again, you might get it this time.

<bwg and roflmao>

Paul Julian Gould EA
Home Lodge #721 F&AM
Van Nuys, California, USA


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Richard Jackson

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In article <7rmfnl$5u6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

That feeling isn't from the head implant. You successfully destroyed
it when you heated it up to 100 degrees C. It is from the microscopic
radiioactive bits we imbedded in the seat on your loo.

Have you noticed that things aren't working as they once did? Even
viagra hasn't helped? Yep, the particles are working. You can detect
them if you will put a geiger counter close to the seat. Even then you
will only hear what sounds like background static. It isn't, it is the
particles.

Now, has anyone told you about the flouride in your water system? It
is part of the plan also. Interacts with the particles to make you
constipated so you will spend even more time on the "throne".

--
Richard Jackson, PM
Corrigan Masonic Lodge #1103 AF&AM
Corrigan, Texas
newsgroup article copyright 1999, all rights reserved by Richard Jackson

Ade Vickers

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In uk.misc, a_v...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Very clever but what we want to know is whether it will keep out
> microwaves.

Pesky little devils, those microwaves, aren't they?

> Agents of the Judeo-Masonic Faction have been beaming
> microwaves at us for years to try to drive us mad ever since we
> destroyed the implant they put in our head by heating it up in the
> warming oven.

My dear sir, beaming microwaves at you will have no effect whatsoever on
your mental state. However, the effect will be to gently warm your brain,
leading to feelings of inner well-being and increased synaptic activity.
A small amount of steam may be visible exiting from the ears, but this is
a mild side effect.

> We have had to wear aluminum foil turbans ever since but

I imagine the lightshow was quite entertaining. If the sparks aren't
enough, I believe that sticking christmas tree lights on with blobs of
blu-tack will enhance the effect, as well as adding a delightful splash
of colour.

> we have recently started to feel a little queer from time to time.

Were all the big ones taken then?

> Either they have changed their microwave beams or the foil turban may
> have slipped. We would like to paper the house with aluminum foil to
> keep out the microwaves even if our turban falls off.

Have you considered clingfilm? It's transparent to microwaves (which may
cause some minor difficulties), but you should keep fresh for up to 8
weeks in it.

--
Ade.
"Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things" -- Dan Quayle

Ted Berry

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In article <7rmfnl$5u6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
a_v...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <37D842E6...@zen.co.uk>, Steve <blac...@zen.co.uk>
> writes
> >I used the stuff for its intended purpose (dampresisting) on a
chimney
> >wall that had been very damp from a serious flashing problem (they
> >were missing actually), and couldn't wait too long for the wall to
dry
> >out into the room after I remade the flashing. The foil stuff is
fixed
> >with rubber cement, with slightly lapping joints. I only used it for
> >the top three feet of a ten foot wall. The resulting wallpapered
> >surface is dry and unblemished.
>
> Very clever but what we want to know is whether it will keep out
> microwaves. Agents of the Judeo-Masonic Faction have been beaming

> microwaves at us for years to try to drive us mad ever since we
> destroyed the implant they put in our head by heating it up in the
> warming oven. We have had to wear aluminum foil turbans ever since but

> we have recently started to feel a little queer from time to time.
> Either they have changed their microwave beams or the foil turban may
> have slipped. We would like to paper the house with aluminum foil to
> keep out the microwaves even if our turban falls off.
>
> --
> Garry Bucknall
> pp. The Avengers
>

Don't bother wrapping the outside ofthe house because we have implanted
emitting devices in most home appliances. Stick with the aluminum
turban thingy. But you might want to know that we are working on a new
"space saving" electric can opener with frequeny emitters that can
penetrate aluminum.

You may have to switch to titanium or duct tape, but because of my
oaths I can say no more...

--
Ted Berry 32' PSD
Benjamin B. French Lodge #15 Washington DC
Albert Pike Consistory, etc. Valley of DC
Eastern Star Lodge, Rehoboth, Mass

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In article <7rmfnl$5u6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
a_v...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Very clever but what we want to know is whether it will keep out
> microwaves. Agents of the Judeo-Masonic Faction have been beaming
> microwaves at us for years to try to drive us mad ever since we
> destroyed the implant they put in our head by heating it up in the
> warming oven. We have had to wear aluminum foil turbans ever since but
> we have recently started to feel a little queer from time to time.
> Either they have changed their microwave beams or the foil turban may
> have slipped. We would like to paper the house with aluminum foil to
> keep out the microwaves even if our turban falls off.

You must be some sort of nutter. We respected your contributions
to the anti-Masonic cause, but if you post nonsense like this
you will discredit our movement.
Masons don't use microwave mind control any more so your
turban idea is a waste of time. Try to stick to the facts
about Masonary if you want to be taken seriously. You also
claim to eshew pewfery but then you admit to feeling little
queers. Why have you slipped from the path of righteousness?
Last time we posted ourself, we revealed the truth about the
1973 plot to poison the water supply in New York and about
the plot to get the Scottish to finance a nuclear bomb for
Hitler in 1945. Then we explained about the origins of
Masonary and about the corruption they bring. Then we
revealed how they are obsessed with the symbolism of the
rampant erection and masturbation.
Next time we will tell how they forced us myself into the
Craft in the first place when we joined Exxon Petroleum
as a Chief Engineer in California in 1955 and how we were
treated as their employee thereafter and how they got rid
of us on some false pretext. It will all be revealed when
we post next time. Until then, keep the faith and...
FACE THE FACTS!

eruc...@my-deja.com

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Paul Burridge

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On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:40:43 -0700, Paul Julian Gould
<paulj...@techieguy.com> wrote:

>Furthermore, you were supposed to destroy the implant by sticking your
>head in a microwave oven. All a warming oven will do is burn your hair
>off. Try again, you might get it this time.

Yes, but for safety's sake, remember to remove your tinfoil hat first.
--

Noverint universi per presentes et futuri...

Richard Jackson

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In article <7rod73$hp2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

eruc...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <7rmfnl$5u6$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> a_v...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > Very clever but what we want to know is whether it will keep out
> > microwaves. Agents of the Judeo-Masonic Faction have been beaming
> > microwaves at us for years to try to drive us mad ever since we
> > destroyed the implant they put in our head by heating it up in the
> > warming oven. We have had to wear aluminum foil turbans ever since
but
> > we have recently started to feel a little queer from time to time.
> > Either they have changed their microwave beams or the foil turban
may
> > have slipped. We would like to paper the house with aluminum foil to
> > keep out the microwaves even if our turban falls off.
>
> You must be some sort of nutter. We respected your contributions
> to the anti-Masonic cause, but if you post nonsense like this
> you will discredit our movement.
> Masons don't use microwave mind control any more so your
> turban idea is a waste of time.

We don't? When did that happen? I still have my microwave transmitting
super code ring. Just the other day I willed my nextdoor neighbor to
mow his yard, and he did.

>Try to stick to the facts
> about Masonary if you want to be taken seriously. You also
> claim to eshew pewfery but then you admit to feeling little
> queers. Why have you slipped from the path of righteousness?
> Last time we posted ourself, we revealed the truth about the
> 1973 plot to poison the water supply in New York and about
> the plot to get the Scottish to finance a nuclear bomb for
> Hitler in 1945.

ah ha! They still haven't learned about our roll in the takeover plans
at the UN!

> Then we explained about the origins of
> Masonary and about the corruption they bring. Then we
> revealed how they are obsessed with the symbolism of the
> rampant erection and masturbation.
> Next time we will tell how they forced us myself into the
> Craft in the first place when we joined Exxon Petroleum
> as a Chief Engineer in California in 1955 and how we were
> treated as their employee thereafter and how they got rid
> of us on some false pretext. It will all be revealed when
> we post next time. Until then, keep the faith and...
> FACE THE FACTS!
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>

Please do. By the time you post again, the laughter will hage stopped
and everyone will need something else funny!

--
Richard Jackson, PM
Corrigan Masonic Lodge #1103 AF&AM
Corrigan, Texas
newsgroup article copyright 1999, all rights reserved by Richard Jackson

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In article <7roq01$rrt$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Richard Jackson <ri...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <7rod73$hp2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> eruc...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Then we explained about the origins of
> > Masonary and about the corruption they bring. Then we
> > revealed how they are obsessed with the symbolism of the
> > rampant erection and masturbation.
> > Next time we will tell how they forced us myself into the
> > Craft in the first place when we joined Exxon Petroleum
> > as a Chief Engineer in California in 1955 and how we were
> > treated as their employee thereafter and how they got rid
> > of us on some false pretext. It will all be revealed when
> > we post next time. Until then, keep the faith and...
> > FACE THE FACTS!
>
> Please do. By the time you post again, the laughter will hage stopped
> and everyone will need something else funny!

We think that eruction must be an agent provocateur working for the
Judeo-Masonic Faction or the P2 masons in the UK. He is a fake and now he
says he is going to post lies about us working for Exxon and being forced to
join the Masons. As you know we were working for Burmah Oil when the Masons
forced us to join so they could be sure of our silence about the way they
were making babies into upper-cylinder lubricant. When we dared to speak out
we were threatened by the Masonic enforcers who told us that our vows were
for life and that if we spoke out again our intestines would be strung across
the top of our house as it says in the ritual. At least eruction has been
trying to get our goat but he will not succeed in that either as we keep her
locked up inside.

>
> --
> Richard Jackson, PM
> Corrigan Masonic Lodge #1103 AF&AM
> Corrigan, Texas
> newsgroup article copyright 1999, all rights reserved by Richard Jackson
>
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> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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iam790

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It is quite obvious that everyone participating in this thread (aside
from me) belong to the Freemason organization. You Masons are just
trying to discredit the anti-masons even more than some have discredited
themselves.

Richard Jackson

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In article <7rp5jp$50j$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

Say it's not true! A_vomit, a Mason?

If anything, poking fun at the poor deluded folks is even more fun than
answering them. The antis usually do not need any help discrediting
themselves, they do an excellent joy of that with just their posts.

--
Richard Jackson, PM
Corrigan Masonic Lodge #1103 AF&AM
Corrigan, Texas
newsgroup article copyright 1999, all rights reserved by Richard Jackson

Eugene Goldman.·.

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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:12:19 GMT, iam790 <iam...@my-deja.com> wrote:

*You Masons are just
*trying to discredit the anti-masons even more than some have discredited
*themselves.

Pretty hard to do, isn't it?
Durn near impossible, I'd say.

|O| Be well. Travel with a light heart.
Who said that?

Brother Gene .*.
http://www.calodges.org/no442
http://www.blackmountainlodge.net
http://www.freemason.org
MBBFMN #387
And in case I don't see ya' - Good Afternoon, Good Evening and Good Night!

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iam790

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In article <37e01d0c...@news.swbell.net>,

br_...@pacbell.net (Eugene Goldman.·.) wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:12:19 GMT, iam790 <iam...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> *You Masons are just
> *trying to discredit the anti-masons even more than some have
discredited
> *themselves.
>
> Pretty hard to do, isn't it?
> Durn near impossible, I'd say.
>
Well if they aren't 2 masons having some fun.......eruction and a_vomit
need some serious help before they go and bomb a federal building.

Eugene Svoboda

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Sep 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/16/99
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Richard Jackson wrote:
(cut)

> ah ha! They still haven't learned about our roll in the takeover plans
> at the UN!


Plans??!!
I thought it was "fait accompli"!

a_v...@my-deja.com

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In article <7rq8g2$td5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

iam790 <iam...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <37e01d0c...@news.swbell.net>,
> br_...@pacbell.net (Eugene Goldman.·.) wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:12:19 GMT, iam790 <iam...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > *You Masons are just trying to discredit the anti-masons even more
> > *than some have discredited themselves.

> > Pretty hard to do, isn't it?
> > Durn near impossible, I'd say.
> >
> Well if they aren't 2 masons having some fun.......eruction and
> a_vomit need some serious help before they go and bomb a federal
> building.

We cannot and will not speak for eruction who is an agent provateur of the
Judeo-Masonic Faction but we would not want to blow up anything. All we
wanted was some information about whether aluminum foil wallpaper would keep
out the microwaves that the JMF is beaming at us from the drugs site next to
our farmhouse. We know that they are doing this because we have seen the
shimmer it makes on hot summer days and the way the ground steams after it
has rained.


>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>

--
Nicolas Tesla
pp. The Avengers

iam790

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In article <7rrcu9$o3m$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
It could be that big shiny thing up in the sky that sometimes follows me
around...whats it called again...the sun?

joeschmu...@kill.spamford.wallace.now

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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:29:45 GMT, a_v...@my-deja.com wrote:

>We know that they are doing this because we have seen the
>shimmer it makes on hot summer days and the way the ground steams after it
>has rained.

Neat trick, that -- radio waves are invisible to the human eye.


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Eugene Goldman.·.

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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:24:57 GMT,
joeschmu...@KILL.SPAMFORD.WALLACE.NOW wrote:

*On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:29:45 GMT, a_v...@my-deja.com wrote:
*
*>We know that they are doing this because we have seen the
*>shimmer it makes on hot summer days and the way the ground steams after it
*>has rained.
*
*Neat trick, that -- radio waves are invisible to the human eye.

Not when you are wearing one of our new and improved Masonic
InfraViolet AudioSonic sensor arrays in your Thorax. Makes them clear
as day to the unaided eye.

Richard Jackson

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Sep 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/17/99
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In article <7rrcu9$o3m$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
a_v...@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <7rq8g2$td5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> iam790 <iam...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > In article <37e01d0c...@news.swbell.net>,
> > br_...@pacbell.net (Eugene Goldman. .) wrote:
> > > On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:12:19 GMT, iam790 <iam...@my-deja.com>
wrote:
> > > *You Masons are just trying to discredit the anti-masons even more
> > > *than some have discredited themselves.
> > > Pretty hard to do, isn't it?
> > > Durn near impossible, I'd say.
> > >
> > Well if they aren't 2 masons having some fun.......eruction and
> > a_vomit need some serious help before they go and bomb a federal
> > building.
>
> We cannot and will not speak for eruction who is an agent provateur
of the
> Judeo-Masonic Faction but we would not want to blow up anything. All
we
> wanted was some information about whether aluminum foil wallpaper
would keep
> out the microwaves that the JMF is beaming at us from the drugs site
next to
> our farmhouse. We know that they are doing this because we
have seen the

> shimmer it makes on hot summer days and the way the ground steams
after it
> has rained.

>
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
> >
>
> --
> Nicolas Tesla
> pp. The Avengers
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>

No, no old boy! The transmitters in the building next door emit long
range microwaves. They are not visable to the human eye. Wbat you are
seeing are the buried short range verticle transmitters designed to
react with the implant you received the last time you had a thorough
examination at the clinic. You didn't know the doctor was a Mason, did
you? Have you noticed any problems lately?

Couple that with the radioactive particles placed in the seat of your
water closet............................

--
Richard Jackson, PM
Corrigan Masonic Lodge #1103 AF&AM
Corrigan, Texas
newsgroup article copyright 1999, all rights reserved by Richard Jackson

joeschmu...@kill.spamford.wallace.now

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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:26:12 GMT, br_...@pacbell.net (Eugene Goldman.·.) wrote:

>Not when you are wearing one of our new and improved Masonic
>InfraViolet AudioSonic sensor arrays in your Thorax. Makes them clear
>as day to the unaided eye.

Oh, is THAT what this thing is I'm carrying around. And here I thought I was
just fat and lazy.

BTW, mine's broke -- I'll have to take it into the shop to be looked at.

nep...@my-deja.com

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On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:29:45 GMT, a_v...@my-deja.com wrote:


>We cannot and will not speak for eruction who is an agent provateur of the
>Judeo-Masonic Faction but we would not want to blow up anything.

So, there's no use in telling you to go and blow it up your arse then?
--
nep...@my-deja.com

Richard Jackson

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In article <37e16021....@news.swbell.net>,

br_...@pacbell.net (Eugene Goldman.·.) wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:24:57 GMT,
> joeschmu...@KILL.SPAMFORD.WALLACE.NOW wrote:
>
> *On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:29:45 GMT, a_v...@my-deja.com wrote:
> *
> *>We know that they are doing this because we have seen the
> *>shimmer it makes on hot summer days and the way the ground steams
after it

> *>has rained.
> *
> *Neat trick, that -- radio waves are invisible to the human eye.
>
> Not when you are wearing one of our new and improved Masonic
> InfraViolet AudioSonic sensor arrays in your Thorax. Makes them clear
> as day to the unaided eye.
>
> |O| Be well. Travel with a light heart.
> Who said that?
>
> Brother Gene .*.
> http://www.calodges.org/no442
> http://www.blackmountainlodge.net
> http://www.freemason.org
> MBBFMN #387
> And in case I don't see ya' - Good Afternoon, Good Evening and Good
Night!
>
> Internet newsgroup posting. Copyright 1999. All rights reserved.
> Any Mason may use the contents for any valid Masonic purpose,
permission may be granted to others upon request.
>

Brother Goldman,

They placed it in his thorax? I was under the impression that our
undercover Masonic doctors usually placed the devices somewhat lower
than that in anti's!

David Pearson

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In article <sfrhNzeSzcABBZ...@4ax.com> William Oakey <b...@orla.demon.co.uk> writes:
>From: William Oakey <b...@orla.demon.co.uk>


>My bricklayer is a mason, funny that![1]


>1. How is that for bringing it back on topic for uk.d-i-y?

Poor. You should do your own bricklaying :-)

Dave

Eugene Goldman.·.

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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:44:16 GMT,
joeschmu...@KILL.SPAMFORD.WALLACE.NOW wrote:

*On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:26:12 GMT, br_...@pacbell.net (Eugene Goldman.·.) wrote:
*
*>Not when you are wearing one of our new and improved Masonic
*>InfraViolet AudioSonic sensor arrays in your Thorax. Makes them clear
*>as day to the unaided eye.
*
*Oh, is THAT what this thing is I'm carrying around. And here I thought I was
*just fat and lazy.
*
*BTW, mine's broke -- I'll have to take it into the shop to be looked at.

Make sure the technician has been factory trained. Otherwise you will
start hearing voices in your pancreas.

Eugene Goldman.·.

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On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:23:49 GMT, Richard Jackson <ri...@my-deja.com>
wrote:

*Brother Goldman,
*
*They placed it in his thorax? I was under the impression that our
*undercover Masonic doctors usually placed the devices somewhat lower
*than that in anti's!

They usually do, but they found a Thorax and decided to put it there.
Silly doctors.

Dave Plowman

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In article <37e2a591....@news.cwcom.net>,
<noo...@cwcom.net> wrote:
> It also rendered him mute.

Could we have some for this thread? ;-)

Steve Barnes

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Not that anyone would want to hide this from a surveyor! Just remember
not to use a latex based paint, as this is an electrical insulator, and
will prevent the surveyors damp meter from registering any damp....

Ahem.

Stephen.

Pallaeon wrote:
>
>
> Can you advise where I can get some from?
>
> One corner of my brothers house is damp and keeps soiling the wall paper
> he is about to sell it and if this stuff works then it is worth putting up
> (this
> is not to hide it the Surveyor should (may not :-)) find it!
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> (Pallaeon is my real name)
> CBR1000F(K)

--
Steve Barnes
http://i.am/stephenbarnes/

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