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Oven door hinges locked in transit position. Won't unlock.

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Fred Phase

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Oct 5, 2003, 12:15:13 PM10/5/03
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I just thought I'd clean the oven door of my Hygena Diplomat. Bad
move.

The door removes by lifting some catches on the hinges and closing the
door. Instead of closing it lifts to allow removal. So far so good.

The problem comes when I am cleaning the removed door I accidentally
push the hinge. It closes and clicks in a fully retracted position,
which I assume is for transit or something.

I am normally quite good working these things out but this time I'm
stumped. There just doesn't seem to be any way to unlatch this hinge.
I have removed it from the glass door completely to have a closer
look. It's made by a company called "Nuova Star".

They have a website
http://www.nuovastar.com/e/company.html
But no information on the website on how to unlock locked hinges. From
what I can tell the hinge I have is on this page...
http://www.nuovastar.com/e/catalogo_3_en.html
And is model HE1S - Mod.086.


If anyone has experience with these hinges and knows how to unlock
them I would much appreciate it. Thanks
Fred.

BigWallop

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Oct 5, 2003, 2:02:03 PM10/5/03
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"Fred Phase" <fred...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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From the picture, it looks like there is a spring loaded lock within the
long arm section that, when closed, locks into the little notched valley on
the small section. You may have to pull out the spring loaded bar to allow
it to release from the notch.


Fred Phase

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Oct 6, 2003, 2:50:08 AM10/6/03
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"BigWallop" <spamguard@_spam_guard.com> wrote in message news:<v0Zfb.9765$0q3.82...@news-text.cableinet.net>...


> From the picture, it looks like there is a spring loaded lock within the
> long arm section that, when closed, locks into the little notched valley on
> the small section. You may have to pull out the spring loaded bar to allow
> it to release from the notch.

Yes, that fixed it. As a always the case I figured it out 10 minutes
after posting!

In case anyone else gets into the same pickle, this is how to fix
it...

1) Grip hinge assembly in a vice between the big spring and the arm
that holds it, but not across the arm as this will deform it. This
should rest on a ledge on the arm alllowing downward force.

2) Apply a flat-blade screwdriver to the ping at the end of the spring
loaded lock. Press the pin to relieve the pressure on the hinge.

3) Pull the hinge out, or prise it from the back until it starts to
move.

4) Extend the hinge as far out as you can.


Hope that helps someone out there :-)

Klara

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Dec 2, 2015, 8:44:04 AM12/2/15
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replying to Fred Phase, Klara wrote:
> fredphase wrote:
>
> "BigWallop" <spamguard@_spam_guard.com> wrote in message
> news:<v0Zfb.9765$0q3.82...@news-text.cableinet.net>...
> Yes, that fixed it. As a always the case I figured it out 10 minutes
> after posting!
> In case anyone else gets into the same pickle, this is how to fix
> it...
> 1) Grip hinge assembly in a vice between the big spring and the arm
> that holds it, but not across the arm as this will deform it. This
> should rest on a ledge on the arm alllowing downward force.
> 2) Apply a flat-blade screwdriver to the ping at the end of the spring
> loaded lock. Press the pin to relieve the pressure on the hinge.
> 3) Pull the hinge out, or prise it from the back until it starts to
> move.
> 4) Extend the hinge as far out as you can.
> Hope that helps someone out there :-)


Thank you so,so much for this post. Have been searching the internet for
solutions after the oven door hinges locked when pulling out the door and
gladly have found your instructions. Unlocked hinges and door back on the
oven,ever so happy! To to say once you know what to do how easy it's. I'm
a woman with no DIY skills,just wanted to clean between glass on my oven
door. Next time I'll know to push the latch as far back as possible before
pulling door out,so the hinge won't lock up again.

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Dec 3, 2015, 7:31:14 PM12/3/15
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We'll have you building a house soon enough. Rod Speed will probably offer plans :)


NT

Casey

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Dec 17, 2015, 7:44:06 PM12/17/15
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replying to Fred Phase, Casey wrote:
> fredphase wrote:
>
> "BigWallop" <spamguard@_spam_guard.com> wrote in message
> news:<v0Zfb.9765$0q3.82...@news-text.cableinet.net>...
> Yes, that fixed it. As a always the case I figured it out 10 minutes
> after posting!
> In case anyone else gets into the same pickle, this is how to fix
> it...
> 1) Grip hinge assembly in a vice between the big spring and the arm
> that holds it, but not across the arm as this will deform it. This
> should rest on a ledge on the arm alllowing downward force.
> 2) Apply a flat-blade screwdriver to the ping at the end of the spring
> loaded lock. Press the pin to relieve the pressure on the hinge.
> 3) Pull the hinge out, or prise it from the back until it starts to
> move.
> 4) Extend the hinge as far out as you can.
> Hope that helps someone out there :-)



I'm sorry, I'm having trouble following these instructions, could anybody
help me get this hinge into the position needed to put my oven door back
on?
Thanks, I'm so worried

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Klara

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Dec 18, 2015, 9:44:04 AM12/18/15
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replying to Casey, Klara wrote:
> Casey wrote:
>
> I'm sorry, I'm having trouble following these instructions, could anybody
help
> me get this hinge into the position needed to put my oven door back on?
> Thanks, I'm so worried



Hi, it took me a while to understand instructions as well. Basically the
spring is far too strong to pull it back by hand so you really need to put
it vice to hold it firm while you push the small pin back. I have no vice
so managed to use the edge of my old worktop instead. On each side of the
hinge you'll find a small rounded looking,almost flat pin and either side
can be pushed back with a flat screwdriver....unfortunately you need quiet
a bit of force for this and the pin won;'t stay there either,you have to
keep pushing it hard.
The bit that locked in can then be pulled back(again not easily,you need a
bit of force) and if you manage to pull it all the way back,you can then
pull over it the other piece of metal that keeps it there.
2 people might manage it better,however,if you're on your own like I was I
used the edge of the worktop to actually with the push slide the hinge
far out,while holding the whole thing with one hand and pushing the pin
with screwdriver in other hand.
Took me a few tries before it has happened. Be warned to watch your
hands...the spring has a great force and you don't want your fingers get
trapped in there if the latch springs back on it.

Hope it helps....I don't know the technical names for the parts.

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Casey

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Apr 14, 2016, 9:44:06 AM4/14/16
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replying to Klara, Casey wrote:
> Klara wrote:
>
> help
Thank you, I managed in the end, I was so relieved!


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newshound

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Apr 14, 2016, 10:03:04 AM4/14/16
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I'm convinced that everyone should be taught how to use a Mole Wrench at
school. They have so many uses, in this case you can use them as a
substitute vice to grip the hinge securely and provide you with more
leverage.

Jackie

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Jun 7, 2016, 5:44:03 PM6/7/16
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replying to Fred Phase, Jackie wrote:
Thank you Fred ...you solved our problem for us

bp

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Aug 14, 2017, 12:44:07 PM8/14/17
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replying to Fred Phase, bp wrote:
I come late to this, but after encountering the same problem today it seems
that on some models there MAY be another far easier way. On reinserting the
door one instinctively wants to close it; but to get at the hinge locks you
should actually OPEN it completely (that is, at right angles). On my model it
is then very simple to get at the locks. Sounds to me as if you might be doing
precisely this, but by a much more laborious and round about route. Hope this
helps.

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Fredxxx

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Aug 14, 2017, 1:30:52 PM8/14/17
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On 14/08/2017 17:44, bp wrote:
> replying to Fred Phase, bp wrote:
> I come late to this, but after encountering the same problem today it seems
> that on some models there MAY be another far easier way. On reinserting the
> door one instinctively wants to close it; but to get at the hinge locks you
> should actually OPEN it completely (that is, at right angles). On my
> model it
> is then very simple to get at the locks. Sounds to me as if you might be
> doing
> precisely this, but by a much more laborious and round about route. Hope
> this
> helps.
>

OMG 2003 this time. I'm wondering who Fred Phase is/was. The cooker is
long dead assuming the OP isn't!

It would be smarter if the website didn't allow you to reply to very old
posts!

This might assist you with posting to a newsgroup, albeit through a website:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855

- If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context.

Rod Speed

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Aug 14, 2017, 2:46:52 PM8/14/17
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Fredxxx <fre...@nospam.com> wrote
> bp wrote
>> replying to Fred Phase, bp wrote

>> I come late to this, but after encountering the same problem today it
>> seems
>> that on some models there MAY be another far easier way. On reinserting
>> the door one instinctively wants to close it; but to get at the hinge
>> locks you should actually OPEN it completely (that is, at right angles).
>> On my model it is then very simple to get at the locks. Sounds to me as
>> if you might be doing precisely this, but by a much more laborious and
>> round about route. Hope this helps.

> OMG 2003 this time.

Still useful info regardless of when the original was asked.

> I'm wondering who Fred Phase is/was. The cooker is long dead assuming the
> OP isn't!

Irrelevant to whether the info is still useful to others.


Brian Gaff

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Aug 14, 2017, 2:55:17 PM8/14/17
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Yes that is presumably what he meant by coming late to this?
Brian

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micky

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Aug 14, 2017, 3:39:39 PM8/14/17
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In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:44:03 GMT, bp
<caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com> wrote:

>replying to Fred Phase, bp wrote:

I don't mind that the advice is usually for an old problem (this poster
even acknowledges that) because the information might still help me or
someone even if not the original poster.

I do mind that most such posts don't give enough info to know what
problem they are trying to solve, but that's not the case here iether.

However, I've been reading this group for iirc 20 years and I don't
remember Fred Phase or most of the other people they reply to. Does
anyone rememeber Fred Phase?

John Rumm

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Aug 14, 2017, 9:36:40 PM8/14/17
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On 14/08/2017 20:39, micky wrote:
> In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:44:03 GMT, bp
> <caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com> wrote:
>
>> replying to Fred Phase, bp wrote:


> However, I've been reading this group for iirc 20 years and I don't

Scary huh, I think I have wasted 15 years listening to you lot so far ;-)

> remember Fred Phase or most of the other people they reply to. Does
> anyone rememeber Fred Phase?

Looks like he only posted to two threads according to a google groups
search.

Oddly that thread has been resurrected a few times now in 2015 and 2016.

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CK

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Sep 4, 2017, 5:14:15 PM9/4/17
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replying to bp, CK wrote:
Glad to see your post, thought I am late. Also glad you said "there may be
another far easier way", I take it you mean this is as you assemble the door.
The trouble is, the locked hinge is already at right angle to the door and
cannot be rotated out because is is locked. Mine is a Whirlpool AKP 262/1X but
the concept all sounds the same. When putting the door back with the hinge
locked at right angle, the door will be in close position. The hinge won't
budge because it is locked. May be we are describing different problem or may
be your model is completely different but desperate for any help just in case
what you suggest can work on mine. Thanks.

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alan_m

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Sep 4, 2017, 6:54:42 PM9/4/17
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On 04/09/2017 22:14, CK wrote:
> replying to bp, CK wrote:
> Glad to see your post, thought I am late.

Yes 14 years late. The article to which you are replying was posted in 2003

See
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub



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RussT

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Feb 10, 2018, 9:44:07 AM2/10/18
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replying to Fred Phase, RussT wrote:
This morning I replaced a pair of hinges on our Diplomat Oven - what a hell of
a job, and very dangerous to the hand!

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Brian Gaff

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Feb 10, 2018, 12:41:56 PM2/10/18
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and the brain as well, looking at where you are posting through?
Brian

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Christina

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Jul 30, 2018, 9:14:04 AM7/30/18
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replying to bp, Christina wrote:
OMG...you wonderful human being! Thank you so much; I would have wasted hours
without your help! Really awesome 👏

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DerbyBorn

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Christina <caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com> wrote in
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> https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/re-oven-door-hinges-locked-in-tran
> sit-position-won-t-unloc-1231303-.htm

Some strange instructions there - are people really doing it correctly.
Every oven I have used it is very simple to open the door fully - lock the
hinge by blocking its return - with a rotating disc or similar - lift out
the door. replace and then unblock the return mechanism.

DerbyBorn

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Christina <caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com> wrote in
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> https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/re-oven-door-hinges-locked-in-tran
> sit-position-won-t-unloc-1231303-.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75DSB2Uihic

Brian Gaff

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Its also a pity that the stupid web site that some are using to view this
group does not actually allow quoting of the message as well.
Brian

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Suki

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Nov 20, 2018, 6:44:04 AM11/20/18
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replying to Fred Phase, Suki wrote:
Thanks, Fred & Klara! You saved the day! One more spring-loaded hinge unstuck.

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Fredxx

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Nov 20, 2018, 2:58:17 PM11/20/18
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On 20/11/2018 11:44, Suki wrote:
> replying to Fred Phase, Suki wrote:
> Thanks, Fred & Klara! You saved the day! One more spring-loaded hinge
> unstuck.

2003! I suspect the OP's oven warranty might now be out of time!

TinCan

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Feb 28, 2019, 9:14:04 AM2/28/19
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replying to bp, TinCan wrote:
Thank you so much!!!!!!! This worked!!!!!!


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Tim

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I found a really easy way to fix this .. I used a door handle ( from a laundry cupboard) and used it to lever it . It takes very little force when you have it secured 👊🏼 So any metal handle will work ( bathroom and laundry are the most likely places )

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