Help to convert toilet to washing machine connection

[Broadback]

My daughter has just started the process of purchasing a house. There is
not facility for a washing machine, but there is a toilet installed
under the stairs which she does not require. I wonder if it is easy to
remove the toilet and plumb a washing machine in its place. The water
connection should be no problem but what about the waste? Is there a
fitting that can be placed in the toilet outlet that would make it easy
to connect a washing machine waste? I am at the disadvantage that I have
not had the opportunity to visit, so do not know exactly how it is
plumbed at the moment. Any pointers would be most welcomed.

[Bob Minchin]

Pull out the toilet and the multiqwik pan connector to leave a 110mm
pipe or socket. Add an 90 degree bend if needed** and a piece of
vertical stack as tall as you can easily fit say as tall as the
machine*. Cap off the top, might need a durgo valve or at least do it so
you can add one later, and fit a washing machine trap to the stack low
down via a strap boss and the job's a good un.

* give a bit of buffer against any high velocity turds from upstairs

** not needed if the toilet plugged into the floor vertically

[spuorg...@gowanhill.com]

On Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:01:15 UTC, Broadback wrote:
> My daughter has just started the process of purchasing a house. There is
> not facility for a washing machine, but there is a toilet installed
> under the stairs which she does not require. I wonder if it is easy to
> remove the toilet and plumb a washing machine in its place.

Assuming it's modern plastic plumbing, yes. Rather more work if the WC pan is cemented into a ceramic pipe disappering in to the floor.

There's no prohibition about having a washing machine in a toilet room, if there's sufficient space.

Removing a ground floor toilet might have Building Regulations impications?

Owain

[GB]

Does the toilet not have a basin? Remove the basin and put the w/m waste
in the basin drain. Remove the toilet and stuff a bag in the waste.
Ideally, you would want to retain the facility to convert this easily
back to a toilet later.

Or something like this, maybe.
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-White-90-Deg-Pan-Connector-With-Waste-Pipe-Connection/p/158826

[The Natural Philosopher]

yes. Disabilty crap.

'toilet on principle storey' IIRC.



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> Owain
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[Tim Watts]

On 25/02/16 13:33, Bob Minchin wrote:
> Broadback wrote:
>> My daughter has just started the process of purchasing a house. There is
>> not facility for a washing machine, but there is a toilet installed
>> under the stairs which she does not require. I wonder if it is easy to
>> remove the toilet and plumb a washing machine in its place. The water
>> connection should be no problem but what about the waste? Is there a
>> fitting that can be placed in the toilet outlet that would make it easy
>> to connect a washing machine waste? I am at the disadvantage that I have
>> not had the opportunity to visit, so do not know exactly how it is
>> plumbed at the moment. Any pointers would be most welcomed.
>
>
> Pull out the toilet and the multiqwik pan connector to leave a 110mm
> pipe or socket. Add an 90 degree bend if needed** and a piece of
> vertical stack as tall as you can easily fit say as tall as the
> machine*. Cap off the top, might need a durgo valve or at least do it so
> you can add one later, and fit a washing machine trap to the stack low
> down via a strap boss and the job's a good un.
>

+1

But I would use a waster converter 110mm cap or joint. eg:

http://www.screwfix.com/p/boss-pipe-grey/18246

http://www.screwfix.com/p/waste-manifold-grey-sp588/22367

and, if it's not a pushfit waste joint, you use one of these:

http://www.screwfix.com/p/floplast-boss-adaptor-40mm-pack-of-5/89174

(avail in 32,40,50mm).

May not need an AAV - unless there's another loo on the same branch
which has no AAV already. If there is another loo downstream, the
washing machine won't cause any suction, but the washing machine
standpipe u trap would be at risk of being sucked dry when the loo is
flushed.

[GB]

On 25/02/2016 14:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> yes. Disabilty crap.
>

Pun intended?

[The Natural Philosopher]

No, but there you go.

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[Martin Bonner]

On Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:51:49 UTC+1, spuorg...@gowanhill.com wrote:
> Removing a ground floor toilet might have Building Regulations

> implications?


Yes. But not likely to be a problem if you don't actually go round to the
building control department and shout "I'VE REMOVED THE ONLY GROUND FLOOR
TOILET".

[Dave W]

And don't sell the house.
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[tabb...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:51:49 UTC, spuorg...@gowanhill.com wrote:

> There's no prohibition about having a washing machine in a toilet room, if there's sufficient space.

If not I'm sure one could cobble together some sort of washing machine - toilet hybrid. :)


NT

[tabb...@gmail.com]

Really though why go to all the trouble of removing the bog if you can put the WM on a stand over the pan. Means the facilities are never removed, which is a plus.


NT

[Tim Watts]

"It's always been like that..."

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 25/02/16 17:44, Dave W wrote:

Even that is actually not an issue. Building control is there to ensure
that MATERIAL ALTERATIONS conform to LATEST REGULATIONS.

If they don't notice you doing it in the first place there is no
requirement to upgrade a house to the regs.


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[Roger Mills]

On 25/02/2016 13:01, Broadback wrote:

It's very likely to be possible without too much trouble, but a lot
depends on how the toilet waste is currently plumbed.

If you can come back with a photo of the current setup after you've
visited the place, it will be a lot easier to give more specific advice.
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[Mike Tomlinson]

En el artículo <namtp4$ou4$1...@dont-email.me>, Broadback <messageboards@j-
towill.co.uk> escribió:

> I wonder if it is easy to
>remove the toilet and plumb a washing machine in its place.

Yes, I did it in a previous house.

Toilet out, capped the 4in pipe (horizontal into wall) with a blanking
cap. Removed overflow pipe and filled hole both sides. Changed
plumbing to provide tap for washing machine (cold fill only). Drilled
hole through wall for 40mmm waste for machine, fitted waste and trap,
waste discharging into outside drain*. Job done.

You might be able to remove the toilet soil pipe altogether and cap it
at the tee on the soil stack. There exist 4 inch blanking caps with
inserts for 32/40mm waste pipe.

One thing I would suggest is checking the floor - if it's suspended, the
noise of the machine will reverberate throughout the house, especially
when spinning. You might want to think about soundproofing the floor
somehow.

* the house was of an age where brown water and rainwater were mixed and
discharged together to the sewer.

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[Martin Bonner]

On Thursday, 25 February 2016 19:57:03 UTC+1, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Really though why go to all the trouble of removing the bog if you can put
> the WM on a stand over the pan. Means the facilities are never removed,
> which is a plus.

Two possible reasons:
1. You can't put the WM on a stand over the pan because there isn't the
vertical headroom. (This is a cupboard under the stair remember).

2. You want the space above the WM for other storage.

I would say "1" was overwhelmingly more likely.

[Adam Funk]

I imagine something from "Handyman's Corner" on _The Red Green Show_,
with lots of duct tape.

[jim]

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