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Jim K

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Nov 29, 2013, 6:06:26 AM11/29/13
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Small dehumidifier (ebac) has been in regular use for ages (during day ). Switched it on as normal but there is a "stalled fan hum" (& no fan noise/airflow). The compressor starts up & I can hear it making coolant noises like a fridge so assume that side I'd ok.

Whats best plan of attack please?

Ta
Jim K

Brian Gaff

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Nov 29, 2013, 7:07:27 AM11/29/13
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Well what sort of fan it is needs to be known one assumes. It might just be
clogged with dust and gunge of course.
If its mains and it has a capacitor, then this might be the culprit,
escpecially if you can induce it to spin either way by poking it.
Brian

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meow...@care2.com

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Nov 29, 2013, 9:21:23 AM11/29/13
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Is the fan seized or stiff, or turning freely? Is the winding conducting ok or not? We're not mind readers.


NT

Jim K

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Nov 29, 2013, 2:07:48 PM11/29/13
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-show quotedtext -Is the fan seized or stiff, or turning freely? Is the winding conducting ok or not? We're not mind readers.

Spose I'll have to open er up then....

Jim K

Andrew Gabriel

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Nov 30, 2013, 8:18:12 AM11/30/13
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In article <def0084c-61f2-428c...@googlegroups.com>,
Earlier this year, I had remco.co.uk make me up a new shaded
pole motor to my specification (dual speed in my case).
They have many off-the-shelf sizes too.
No connection (was recommended to me by someone else here).

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Jim K

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Dec 15, 2013, 3:39:56 PM12/15/13
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right then, acquired sufficient tuits and opened her up.

Fan moved OK dunno if too stiff as presume I was moving motor as well...

Plugged in and fan didn't start up.
Gave fan blades a push & poke & it started slowly & a bit erratically (like gently gathering speed then faltering a bit then regaining speed).

Eventually after a few mins sounds "normal".

I have changed fan speed (2 speeds) OK, and adjusted humidistat control to make it "kick in" & "out" (on this one when chosen humidity target is reached the fan AND compressor both knock off, then automagically they come back on as humidity increases again).

Anyone care to diagnose what it was/is and how to diagnose/fix definitively?

It's in front of me now working away....

TIA

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Jim K

harryagain

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Dec 16, 2013, 3:27:15 AM12/16/13
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"Jim K" <jk98...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Check if it seems freer than before. If it's just the fan, should spin
freely.
If it starts OK when you switch off, let stop and switch on again, likely
wants a drop of lubrication on the motor bearings. (Induction motors have
very poor starting torque.)

If it has to be twirled to start it and it spins freely when twirled, likely
a fault in the motor start winding circuit.
Might possibly be something to do with the 2speed technology, various sorts.


Jim K

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Dec 21, 2013, 3:01:43 AM12/21/13
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The fan won't start up again.

Seems the motor assembly & switch module/PCB are available c.£35 each... worth it?

What else could it be?

Anyone up for guiding my multimeter to isolate which component(s) actually responsible?

TIA
Jim K

meow...@care2.com

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Dec 21, 2013, 3:36:22 AM12/21/13
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On Saturday, December 21, 2013 8:01:43 AM UTC, Jim K wrote:

> The fan won't start up again.
> Seems the motor assembly & switch module/PCB are available c.£35 each... worth it?

Seems a lot for a little fan you could find in all sorts of scrap items

> What else could it be?
> Anyone up for guiding my multimeter to isolate which component(s) actually responsible?
> TIA
> Jim K

If you dont now how to use one, google


NT

Jim K

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Dec 21, 2013, 3:51:51 AM12/21/13
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NT belched:-

>Seems a lot for a little fan you could find in all sorts of scrap items

Er so you claim to know the details of the fan assembly? Amazing....
As found in all those "Scrap items" I don't have....

>> What else could it be? > Anyone up for guiding my multimeter to isolate which component(s) actually responsible? > TIA > Jim K

>If you dont now how to use one, google

>NT

Funnily enough it crossed my mind that Shurely someone like you would be working on some "armchair expert" wiki entry on this very topic? To keep themselves mentally active over the winter months you know....

Have fun ;-)

Jim K

meow...@care2.com

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Dec 22, 2013, 5:04:38 AM12/22/13
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On Saturday, December 21, 2013 8:51:51 AM UTC, Jim K wrote:
> NT wrote

> >Seems a lot for a little fan you could find in all sorts of scrap items

> Er so you claim to know the details of the fan assembly? Amazing....

never claimed that

> As found in all those "Scrap items" I don't have....

freecycle, tips, roadside etc

> >> What else could it be? > Anyone up for guiding my multimeter to isolate which component(s) actually responsible? > TIA > Jim K
> >If you dont now how to use one, google
> >NT

> Funnily enough it crossed my mind that Shurely someone like you would be working on some "armchair expert" wiki entry on this very topic?

I wrote one ages ago. Its very basic, and not armchair knowledge at all.
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Fault

> To keep themselves mentally active over the winter months you know....

If you havent a clue about my life at least dont make foolish comments

Its the simplest of tasks to diagnose the problem, you've got the multimeter, stop being lazy and go do it, we cant possibly diagnose your fan failure remotely.


NT

Jim K

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Dec 22, 2013, 5:38:39 AM12/22/13
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> Er so you claim to know the details of the fan assembly? Amazing....

never claimed that

> As found in all those "Scrap items" I don't have....

freecycle, tips, roadside etc

> >> What else could it be? > Anyone up for guiding my multimeter to isolate which component(s) actually responsible? > TIA > Jim K > >If you dont now how to use one, google > >NT

> Funnily enough it crossed my mind that Shurely someone like you would be working on some "armchair expert" wiki entry on this very topic?

I wrote one ages ago. Its very basic, and not armchair knowledge at all. http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Fault

> To keep themselves mentally active over the winter months you know....

If you havent a clue about my life at least dont make foolish comments

Its the simplest of tasks to diagnose the problem, you've got the multimeter, stop being lazy and go do it, we cant possibly diagnose your fan failure remotely.

NT

End quote/

You really are a pompous arse aren't you?

You claim the required parts are commonly (& now from the road side!:-D) without any knowledge of what they were... Rather obviously stupid comments....

Your wiki "article" could have been written by a schoolie, it says nothing more than obvious armchair commonsense.
It adds nothing to the situation apart from low level entertainment about it's author's mental state.

I know enough about you to not be surprised by any of this, I don't need to know any more about you thanks (for nothing).

Jim K

meow...@care2.com

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Dec 22, 2013, 6:12:50 AM12/22/13
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On Sunday, December 22, 2013 10:38:39 AM UTC, Jim K wrote:

> > Er so you claim to know the details of the fan assembly? Amazing....
> never claimed that
> > As found in all those "Scrap items" I don't have....
> freecycle, tips, roadside etc
> > >> What else could it be? > Anyone up for guiding my multimeter to isolate which component(s) actually responsible? > TIA > Jim K > >If you dont now how to use one, google > >NT
> > Funnily enough it crossed my mind that Shurely someone like you would be working on some "armchair expert" wiki entry on this very topic?
> I wrote one ages ago. Its very basic, and not armchair knowledge at all. http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Fault
> > To keep themselves mentally active over the winter months you know....
> If you havent a clue about my life at least dont make foolish comments
> Its the simplest of tasks to diagnose the problem, you've got the multimeter, stop being lazy and go do it, we cant possibly diagnose your fan failure remotely.
> NT
> End quote/

> You really are a pompous arse aren't you?

youre a time waster

> You claim the required parts are commonly (& now from the road side!:-D)
> without any knowledge of what they were...

Small fan assemblies are fairly common items. I didnt claim to know all the details of them either.

> Rather obviously stupid comments....

a pretty childish conclusion

> Your wiki "article" could have been written by a schoolie, it says nothing more than obvious armchair commonsense.

most diyers dont do divide & conquer with electrical problems.

> It adds nothing to the situation apart from low level entertainment about it's author's mental state.
> I know enough about you to not be surprised by any of this, I don't need to know any more about you thanks (for nothing).
> Jim K

I'm glad its been no help to you. Now if you know what youre doing why dont you stop wasting time & diagnose & fix it.


NT

Jim K

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Dec 22, 2013, 8:47:02 AM12/22/13
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& you call me a timewaster?

You're a trolling pompous arse now ;-)

Jim K
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