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sm_jamieson

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Dec 21, 2012, 4:30:50 AM12/21/12
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The new sink looks lovely etc, but the overflow connection is useless. The sink has a row of vertical slots in it. The connection is a rectangular piece of plastic with outlet that has a rubber seal sandwiched between it and the outside of the sink. There is a single screw in the middle holding it together.
When I fitted it I just knew it would not seal, and of course it does not.
This is not helped by the connection to the trap with a flexible corrugated pipe that when bent round exerts quite a bit of force on the overflow connection, tending to pull it away at the base.
The rubber seal is supplied in flat and curved, and yes I am using the correct one (flat).

Ideas to sort this out :-

1. Find an elbow to put in the pipe so the force created by the overflow pipe is removed.

2. Glue something on to enable a better fastening than the single screw in the middle.

3a. Silicone both side of the rubber seal ? Will silicone stick to the rubber - I doubt it.
3b. Remove rubber seal completely and bed the whole thing on something that will stick to metal, plastic and set but remain flexible - does plumbers mate set ? Maybe just silicone ...

Any ideas ?

Simon.

Dom Ostrowski

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Dec 21, 2012, 4:44:39 AM12/21/12
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Bod

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Dec 21, 2012, 4:52:21 AM12/21/12
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The flexible O/F pipe probably needs cutting to length.
They generally supply the pipe to fit all sizes of sinks,
so you need to trim it to suit. If it's too long, it will
put pressure on the O/F seal.

sm_jamieson

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Dec 21, 2012, 4:57:05 AM12/21/12
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I trimmed it to exactly the correct length and it still exerts pressure - its trying to straighten out !
Simon.

sm_jamieson

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Dec 21, 2012, 5:01:24 AM12/21/12
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The overflow is like this, but with a flexible pipe.

http://www.tapsuk.com/products/133.0036.522-franke-rectangular-overflow-pipework.html

Simon.

polygonum

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Dec 21, 2012, 5:06:36 AM12/21/12
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Gosh! Did you read that garbage before buying? :-)

" Franke Rectangular Overflow Pipework (Chrome Front Plate Not Included)

Franke is the World's largest manufacturer of kitchen sinks and taps,
and is at the forefront of research and development of new materials and
products for the kitchen. The modern sink has come a long way from it's
humble beginnings. Gone are the days when it was a massive sink tub
fixed to wall, with a wooden drainer beside it. Now, with kitchen design
playing a key role in home improvement, it has ceased to be a mere
workaday item. The stands true to these ideals offering you
uncompromised design and breathtaking style that will ensure that your
kitchen is one of a kind "

Obviously you are going wrong by trying to make it into a functioning,
workaday item. It's obviously only meant to satisfy your kitchen
designer. :-)

--
Rod

Bod

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Dec 21, 2012, 5:08:56 AM12/21/12
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One extreme answer, is to remove it altogether and cap it off at the
waste fitting. As long as no one is liable to leave taps running,
there's not a problem.
I mean if all else fails of course! :-)

Jim K

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Dec 21, 2012, 5:19:21 AM12/21/12
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On Dec 21, 9:30 am, sm_jamieson <sm_jamie...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> 3b. Remove rubber seal completely and bed the whole thing on something that will stick to metal, plastic and set but remain flexible - does plumbers mate set ? Maybe just silicone ...
>
> Any ideas ?

3b with MS polymer silicone a la

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/p69243

or something similar

Jim K

Geoff Pearson

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Dec 21, 2012, 5:32:42 AM12/21/12
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"sm_jamieson" <sm_ja...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I've had several of these. I think the overflow went into a purpose made
trap - much like the IKEA ones - and that relieved the strain on the single
screw. I think the big suppliers have a version with a flexible hose.

dochol...@gmail.com

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Dec 21, 2012, 9:20:11 AM12/21/12
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On Friday, December 21, 2012 10:08:56 AM UTC, Bod wrote:
<snip>
> One extreme answer, is to remove it altogether and cap it off at the
> waste fitting. As long as no one is liable to leave taps running,
> there's not a problem.
> I mean if all else fails of course! :-)
That's what was done with my bath - fortunately I didn't discover it the hard way...
I actually discovered it when repairing a leak from another bodge by a previous owner - a lead water pipe which had been 'capped off' by bringing the edge together (as if it were cut by giant pair of side cutters) and then running a thin bead of solder along the remaining gap. I was amazed it had lasted as long as it did.

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