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Minimum distance for a shed / outbuilding from main property
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The Other Mike
Oct 3, 2012, 6:42:08 AM10/3/12
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At some time in the past I recall there was a blanket restriction on the
proximity of a shed or outbuilding to an existing residential property (maybe
different distances depending on whether the shed was constructed of combustible
materials or not?)
I have a feeling the restriction was removed in the past five years or so but
can't find anything at a number of online sources.
Does anyone on here know if such a restriction still applies and if so what it
is?
(It was a separate restriction to the 15m^2 / 30m^2 50% area limits)
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proximity of a shed or outbuilding to an existing residential property (maybe
different distances depending on whether the shed was constructed of combustible
materials or not?)
I have a feeling the restriction was removed in the past five years or so but
can't find anything at a number of online sources.
Does anyone on here know if such a restriction still applies and if so what it
is?
(It was a separate restriction to the 15m^2 / 30m^2 50% area limits)
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Andrew Gabriel
Oct 3, 2012, 8:26:24 AM10/3/12
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In article <mt4o68dqignjpbvj1...@4ax.com>,
unless it's a non combustible construction, but I don't have a
reference. I think so few people know of it that it's effectively
completely ignored. Everyone in my road has a wooden shed, and
always right on their property boundary, including two new houses
where the sheds were required as part of the planning permissing
because the garages were too small to store a car and two bicycles,
which is apparently what our council required for 4 bedroom houses
(off-road space for two cars and two bicycles, and the garage was
the space for one of the two cars).
> (It was a separate restriction to the 15m^2 / 30m^2 50% area limits)
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Andrew Gabriel
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The Other Mike <rootpa...@somewhereorother.com> writes:
> At some time in the past I recall there was a blanket restriction on the
> proximity of a shed or outbuilding to an existing residential property (maybe
> different distances depending on whether the shed was constructed of combustible
> materials or not?)
>
> I have a feeling the restriction was removed in the past five years or so but
> can't find anything at a number of online sources.
>
> Does anyone on here know if such a restriction still applies and if so what it
> is?
I believe it's 1m from a building and 1m from the plot boundary,
> At some time in the past I recall there was a blanket restriction on the
> proximity of a shed or outbuilding to an existing residential property (maybe
> different distances depending on whether the shed was constructed of combustible
> materials or not?)
>
> I have a feeling the restriction was removed in the past five years or so but
> can't find anything at a number of online sources.
>
> Does anyone on here know if such a restriction still applies and if so what it
> is?
unless it's a non combustible construction, but I don't have a
reference. I think so few people know of it that it's effectively
completely ignored. Everyone in my road has a wooden shed, and
always right on their property boundary, including two new houses
where the sheds were required as part of the planning permissing
because the garages were too small to store a car and two bicycles,
which is apparently what our council required for 4 bedroom houses
(off-road space for two cars and two bicycles, and the garage was
the space for one of the two cars).
> (It was a separate restriction to the 15m^2 / 30m^2 50% area limits)
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Bob Minchin
Oct 3, 2012, 12:05:07 PM10/3/12
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rights, that the building had to be non habitable, 20m from the highway
and 5m from the house. I don't think this applied to small sheds as
these wwere classed as temporary buildings.
The 1m from boundary if combustible, 0m if not also sued to be the rule
but I'm pretty certain that does not apply now and it is one metre
irrespective. The roof height rules have changed.
I built a workshop under the old rules concrete block and on the
boundary and recall thinking when the new rules came in, that I would
not have been allowed to do it post the change but did not keep a note
of what the changes were exactly.
Google for permitted development rights to get the latest rules.
hth
Bob
Peter Crosland
Oct 3, 2012, 1:10:04 PM10/3/12
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Ask your local council Building Regs department .
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Bob Eager
Oct 3, 2012, 3:19:33 PM10/3/12
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 17:05:07 +0100, Bob Minchin wrote:
> The Other Mike wrote:
>> At some time in the past I recall there was a blanket restriction on
>> the proximity of a shed or outbuilding to an existing residential
>> property (maybe different distances depending on whether the shed was
>> constructed of combustible materials or not?)
>>
>> I have a feeling the restriction was removed in the past five years or
>> so but can't find anything at a number of online sources.
>>
>> Does anyone on here know if such a restriction still applies and if so
>> what it is?
>>
>> (It was a separate restriction to the 15m^2 / 30m^2 50% area limits)
>>
>>
> It used to be that to comply with the needs of permitted development
> rights, that the building had to be non habitable, 20m from the highway
> and 5m from the house. I don't think this applied to small sheds as
> these wwere classed as temporary buildings.
>
> The 1m from boundary if combustible, 0m if not also sued to be the rule
> but I'm pretty certain that does not apply now and it is one metre
> irrespective. The roof height rules have changed.
Interestingly, I put up a shed about 30cm from our boundary, the boundary
> The Other Mike wrote:
>> At some time in the past I recall there was a blanket restriction on
>> the proximity of a shed or outbuilding to an existing residential
>> property (maybe different distances depending on whether the shed was
>> constructed of combustible materials or not?)
>>
>> I have a feeling the restriction was removed in the past five years or
>> so but can't find anything at a number of online sources.
>>
>> Does anyone on here know if such a restriction still applies and if so
>> what it is?
>>
>> (It was a separate restriction to the 15m^2 / 30m^2 50% area limits)
>>
>>
> It used to be that to comply with the needs of permitted development
> rights, that the building had to be non habitable, 20m from the highway
> and 5m from the house. I don't think this applied to small sheds as
> these wwere classed as temporary buildings.
>
> The 1m from boundary if combustible, 0m if not also sued to be the rule
> but I'm pretty certain that does not apply now and it is one metre
> irrespective. The roof height rules have changed.
being the wall of a brothel next door.
The brothel has now been demolished and replaced by a house, on the same
building line. So is my shed now illegal, as it were?
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Oct 4, 2012, 9:36:55 AM10/4/12
to The Other Mike
The Other Mike wrote:
>At some time in the past I recall there was a blanket restriction on the
>proximity of a shed or outbuilding to an existing residential property
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>At some time in the past I recall there was a blanket restriction on the
>proximity of a shed or outbuilding to an existing residential property
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/commonprojects/outbuildings/
If you want to put up small detached buildings such as a garden shed or summerhouse in your garden, building regulations will not normally apply if the floor area of the building is less than 15 square metres and contains NO sleeping accommodation.
If the floor area of the building is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, you will not normally be required to apply for building regulations approval providing that the building contains NO sleeping accommodation and is either at least one metre from any boundary or it is constructed of substantially non-combustible materials.
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The Other Mike
Oct 5, 2012, 8:17:02 AM10/5/12
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50% area limits
Possibly this is what I was thinking about, where the proximity of a shed to the
house altered its classification from an outbuilding into an extension.
http://web.archive.org/web/20050623011431/http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/genpub/en/1011888236906.html#
A quote from that page
"Note: in all cases, if your new building would have a volume over 10 cubic
metres, and come within 5 metres of the house, it would be treated as an
extension. Also, if your new extension would bring some existing garden building
within 5 metres of the (extended) house, that existing building's volume could
be deducted from your overall volume entitlement for the house, as if it were
another extension."
This restriction is still quoted by a number of councils on their planning
websites as a requirement, but many others appear to have dropped it. It also,
as far as I can tell, makes no appearance on the current planningportal website.
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Lieutenant Scott
Oct 5, 2012, 8:45:15 AM10/5/12
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Oct 5, 2012, 8:46:59 AM10/5/12
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