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Any idea how to cut an ostrich egg in half?

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Nick

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Jun 2, 2005, 3:23:31 PM6/2/05
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A strange request perhaps.
SWMBO has tasked me to convert a clean, blown, natural ostrich egg into a
container for a specific purpose.
The egg is approx. 6.5 x 5.0 inches (165 x 127mm) and 2-3 mm thick. Makes
the eyes water just thinking about it!
Can be cut either longways or sideways.
As this is a one-off and we only have 1 egg, I would like to get it right
first time. Also only a week to produce the finished article, to include
hinge, fastener, turned base etc.
Any experience or thoughts on such stupidity please?

I have a decent range of hand & power tools but have never worked on
anything this fragile.

Many thanks

Nick.


EricP

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Jun 2, 2005, 3:31:52 PM6/2/05
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Yes, first make up a sand bed for the egg. Make a hole in the sand to
support the egg and then score around the line to be cut with a
Stanley knife. This is S l o w a n d g e n t l e stuff. Then use a
fine toothed tenon saw. The idea is lots of scratching rather than
sawing.

HTH

lovem...@fsmail.net

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Jun 2, 2005, 3:52:46 PM6/2/05
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dissolve the egg in vinegar, the shell will go soft, cut in half(it
won't break), then put in a solution of calium carbonate to get the
shell back hard.

Andy Dingley

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Jun 2, 2005, 4:02:00 PM6/2/05
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On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:23:31 +0100, "Nick" <nob...@home.com> wrote:

>SWMBO has tasked me to convert a clean, blown, natural ostrich egg into a
>container for a specific purpose.

First thing is to get some Vicks and a dustmask (think Altern8) You
don't want to smell this stuff as you work on it, it's _horrible_.

Then get your Dremel and a cutting disk, big as possible. Make a Dremel
stand - boxed up MDF and tie-wraps to hold it is fine, just make sure
the Dremel disk is horizontal and you can change disks as needed.

Now make an egg cradle, from MDF, corugated cardboard, foamboard, or
whatever you have.

Make the height of both cradles so that the egg meets the Dremel disk
where needed. Use masking tape to stop the egg moving in the cradle.

Now place both stands onto a flat workbench, power up and slowly rotate
the egg against the disk. It cuts slowly but easily. Work round
gradually, so that you cut almost all the way through around the whole
egg, before you start breaking through in any spot.

If you happen to have a glass cutting ring saw (diamond grit on metal)
then I believe you can just slam them straight through an ostrich egg.
Haven't tried that though (yet).

Chris Hodges

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Jun 2, 2005, 4:58:50 PM6/2/05
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Andy Dingley wrote:
> Then get your Dremel and a cutting disk, big as possible. Make a Dremel
> stand - boxed up MDF and tie-wraps to hold it is fine, just make sure
> the Dremel disk is horizontal and you can change disks as needed.
>
> Now make an egg cradle, from MDF, corugated cardboard, foamboard, or
> whatever you have.
>
> Make the height of both cradles so that the egg meets the Dremel disk
> where needed. Use masking tape to stop the egg moving in the cradle.
>
> Now place both stands onto a flat workbench, power up and slowly rotate
> the egg against the disk. It cuts slowly but easily. Work round
> gradually, so that you cut almost all the way through around the whole
> egg, before you start breaking through in any spot.

And run the dremel on slowest speed?

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raden

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Jun 2, 2005, 5:24:08 PM6/2/05
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In message <1117741966.5...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
lovem...@fsmail.net writes

>dissolve the egg in vinegar, the shell will go soft, cut in half(it
>won't break), then put in a solution of calium carbonate to get the
>shell back hard.
>
I do hope the money making spam post I just saw really wasn't from you


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raden

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Jun 2, 2005, 5:24:08 PM6/2/05
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>dissolve the egg in vinegar, the shell will go soft, cut in half(it
>won't break), then put in a solution of calium carbonate to get the
>shell back hard.
>
Cunning ...

does it work ?

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raden

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Jun 2, 2005, 5:24:07 PM6/2/05
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In message <3g94d1F...@individual.net>, Nick <nob...@home.com>
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Maybe masking tape around the axis, draw the line where you're going to
cut, and get your dremel out

You might want to think about filling it with jelly to give it some body
and absorb the vibrations

otherwise ... an angle grinder
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Mary Fisher

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Jun 2, 2005, 5:24:42 PM6/2/05
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No.
>
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BigWallop

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Jun 2, 2005, 5:30:39 PM6/2/05
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"Nick" <nob...@home.com> wrote in message
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I normally just boil them for an hour or so, then tap the top off with a big
spoon. Loverly with toasted soldiers of wholemeal bread and a little salt.
MMmmmmmmmm. :-)


Andy Dingley

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Jun 2, 2005, 5:33:59 PM6/2/05
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 20:58:50 GMT, Chris Hodges <chris_...@127.0.0.1>
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>And run the dremel on slowest speed?

No, run it on the fastest speed compatible with the rating of your
abrasive disks.

Timfy

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This is better...

http://www.blogjam.com/2005/05/15/scotch-ostrich-egg/


BigWallop

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LOL Like it lots.

Phoarrrrrr!!!! My mouth waters as we speak. The breeds awready buttert
mate. :-) LOL


big...@meeow.co.uk

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Jun 2, 2005, 8:41:24 PM6/2/05
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Cutting an ostrich egg...

There is one, and probably only one, safe clean solution. Use
hydrochloric acid to dissolve the shell along the desired cut line.
Obviously I mean put it only where you want to lose the shell, if you
dunked the egg in HCl youd have no more egg.

A fairly fine pointed applicator would be wanted, and not metal...

Tesco limescale removing bog cleaner would do it, or brick acid.


NT

The Natural Philosopher

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Jun 2, 2005, 10:27:40 PM6/2/05
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Chris Hodges wrote:

I'd say high speed and very little pressure is better.

The Natural Philosopher

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Jun 2, 2005, 10:26:45 PM6/2/05
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Nick wrote:

You need something like a dremel with a cut-off wheel

Basically a very small fine angle grinder..

> Many thanks
>
> Nick.
>
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Gerard Doyle

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Have you considered telling SWMBO that she will NOT be obeyed? There is a
last straw for everybody no matter how down-trodden.

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Jun 3, 2005, 4:49:03 AM6/3/05
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On Thu, 2 Jun 2005 20:23:31 +0100, "Nick" <nob...@home.com> wrote:

Whatevery you do I'd be inclined to try it out on a hens egg first. If
it doesn't work on a hens egg it won't work on an ostrich egg..

sponix

Mary Fisher

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Jun 3, 2005, 5:14:40 AM6/3/05
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"Gerard Doyle" <gd004...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> ==================
> Have you considered telling SWMBO that she will NOT be obeyed? There is a
> last straw for everybody no matter how down-trodden.

I agree. I'm working up to telling Spouse that his word isn't necessarily
the last ...

Mary
>
> Cic.
>
>
>


Chris Bacon

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Jun 3, 2005, 5:24:24 AM6/3/05
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Mark the cut with a pencil. Hold the egg in a bed of cloth or white
sand Cut around with a fine-toothed saw with a good "set" on it. Do
not try to push the saw through, just let it rub away. Go right
around, turning the egg as you go, without cutting right through
the shell, until you find the saw going through, then carefully
finish off. Don't force the blade, don't let is waggle about. I
wouldn't use any power tool, and use something with a decent
length of blade so that it cuts to a good line.

Andy Dingley

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Jun 3, 2005, 8:48:48 AM6/3/05
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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:49:03 GMT, wib...@email.com (s--p--o--n--i--x)
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>Whatevery you do I'd be inclined to try it out on a hens egg first. If
>it doesn't work on a hens egg it won't work on an ostrich egg..

Hens eggs are very hard to cut (unless you use one from something like
Mary's hens). They're just too thin-shelled and fragile. With Dremel
and cutting disk, I've done one ostrich and a bunch of goose eggs and
had no trouble, but never a successful hen. This was a goose
http://codesmiths.com/shed/things/photos/egg_top.jpg

Mary Fisher

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> On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 08:49:03 GMT, wib...@email.com (s--p--o--n--i--x)
> wrote:
>
>>Whatevery you do I'd be inclined to try it out on a hens egg first. If
>>it doesn't work on a hens egg it won't work on an ostrich egg..
>
> Hens eggs are very hard to cut (unless you use one from something like
> Mary's hens).

Huh?

> They're just too thin-shelled and fragile.

I've never tried cutting them. Hmm, perhaps I'll try.

I'm sure that any hen's eggshell is much thinner than an ostrich's. I've
noticed that small wild bird's eggs are thinner shelled than those from out
banties and certainly our daughter'sduck eggshells are much tougher.

The turkey eggs we used to get were incredibly difficult to break but I
think that was because of the very tough membrane inside.

Mary


Andy Dingley

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Jun 3, 2005, 11:02:49 AM6/3/05
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:52:56 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
<mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>> Hens eggs are very hard to cut (unless you use one from something like
>> Mary's hens).
>
>Huh?

I presume you feed your hens, rather than just hooking them up to a drip
feed of pureed school dinners and sheeps' heads, or whatever it is
agribusiness is doing this week.

Chris Hodges

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Jun 3, 2005, 11:38:50 AM6/3/05
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OK, just curious, as you suggested a glass-cutting diamond saw (IIRC)
which is normally a slow diamond saw (at least compared to one for tiles).

Mary Fisher

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"Andy Dingley" <din...@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 14:52:56 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
> <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> Hens eggs are very hard to cut (unless you use one from something like
>>> Mary's hens).
>>
>>Huh?
>
> I presume you feed your hens,

Ah, I see.

Well of course I do - ad lib - only the best grain (organic, GM free etc.)
They also have scraps from our table (if it's good enough for us ... ) and
worms, woodlice, insects, spiders and the rest which they find themselves
and, if they get in the greenhouse, strawberries and, if they get in the veg
plots, whatever they like. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Also the small chalky chippings
from flints (makes super shells) and all sorts of things my poor old eyes
can't see.

> rather than just hooking them up to a drip
> feed of pureed school dinners and sheeps' heads, or whatever it is
> agribusiness is doing this week.

I leave that to be fed to the poor things in cages which produce the
crippled chickens and pale eggs sold as the finest by the supermarkets.

Not that there's anything wrong with sheeps heads, we eat them from time to
time. It's illegal to feed meat to chickens which give meat or eggs for
human food. I wouldn't feed ours meat ...

<whistles>

Mary


raden

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In message <42a01f6d$0$28626$4c56...@master.news.zetnet.net>, Mary
Fisher <mary....@zetnet.co.uk> writes
I'm sure he came to that conclusion many years ago

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Mary Fisher

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He still hasn't had the proof.

work it out.

Mary
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Andy Dingley

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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:38:50 GMT, Chris Hodges <chris_...@127.0.0.1>
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>OK, just curious, as you suggested a glass-cutting diamond saw (IIRC)

>which is normally a slow diamond saw (at least compared to one for tiles).

The type of saw I'm thinking of is a "ring saw", a bandsaw with a rigid
circular band of diamond-plated metal. They're slower in rpm than a disk
tile saw, but I think the linear speed is similar as the band is so much
bigger.

Both of them, being water-cooled diamond saws, are much slower than an
air-cooled Dremel disk.

susanb1222

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The egg, I'm using an Emu egg, is thicker and stronger than you think. An Ostrich egg is probably stronger (think of what's inside and has to be contained). I've used a VERY fine tooth saw or a Dremel Cutting tool on LOW speed. The egg MUST be Secured to avoid uneven cut.
I'm making Faberge Egg replicas for Christmas presents this year using EMU Eggs.

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Rod Speed

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susanb1222 <731488f5e88e853f...@example.com> wrote

> The egg, I'm using an Emu egg, is thicker and stronger than you think. An
> Ostrich egg is probably stronger (think of what's inside and has to be
> contained). I've used a VERY fine tooth saw or a Dremel Cutting tool on
> LOW speed. The egg MUST be Secured to avoid uneven cut.

> I'm making Faberge Egg replicas for Christmas presents this year using EMU
> Eggs.

Given that it was 15 years ago, you are just a tad late.

Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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Yes I was thinking that.
I'm not sure where you would get either egg these days anyway.
You might need to shell out a lot for an Eggcelent cutting tool nowadays.
Brian

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> Given that it was 15 years ago, you are just a tad late.

And 15 years ago you were already a trolling piece of senile shit, senile
Ozzietard!

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Paul

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Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> Yes I was thinking that.
> I'm not sure where you would get either egg these days anyway.
> You might need to shell out a lot for an Eggcelent cutting tool nowadays.
> Brian
>

The eggs are available, because there are small hobby farms keeping
exotic birds.

https://farmersforum.com/eastern-ontario-ostrich-farming-a-niche-market-one-farmer-has-managed-to-sustain/

"McIntosh sold 100 eggs two years ago and 60 last year.

He cautions buyers that opening the thicker shell requires a drill or a hammer.

He also sells steaks, pepperettes and lean ground meat that tastes like beef."

https://caes-scae.ca/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/2002-turvey3-3.pdf

"In the early to mid 1990s, over 300 Ontario farmers switched production from
conventional livestock into ratites, a category that includes emus, ostriches, and rhea."

And the market bubble is why there aren't a lot today.

I'm surprised there's no description of "drumsticks". Think
how large a drumstick would be. Yum!

*******

It would be easier, to just print an egg-shaped item on
a 3D printer, use a filament which is paint-able with
acrylic paint, and make the Faberge egg that way.

https://all3dp.com/2/beginner-s-guide-to-painting-3d-prints-pla-abs/

Paul

John Rumm

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On 21/03/2021 09:59, Paul wrote:

> It would be easier, to just print an egg-shaped item on
> a 3D printer, use a filament which is paint-able with
> acrylic paint, and make the Faberge egg that way.
>
> https://all3dp.com/2/beginner-s-guide-to-painting-3d-prints-pla-abs/

Were 3D printers commonly available 15 years ago when the question was
asked?

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Paul

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John Rumm wrote:
> On 21/03/2021 09:59, Paul wrote:
>
>> It would be easier, to just print an egg-shaped item on
>> a 3D printer, use a filament which is paint-able with
>> acrylic paint, and make the Faberge egg that way.
>>
>> https://all3dp.com/2/beginner-s-guide-to-painting-3d-prints-pla-abs/
>
> Were 3D printers commonly available 15 years ago when the question was
> asked?
>

And it's not in the spirit of Faberge eggs anyway :-)

I did like the comment about "a drill or a hammer" though.
That's one tough egg. The bird inside must have a diamond beak,
to get out.

Paul

Roger Hayter

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Some birds, at least, have special tooth. And of course it is easier from the
inside.

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Theo

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Paul <nos...@needed.invalid> wrote:
> Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> > Yes I was thinking that.
> > I'm not sure where you would get either egg these days anyway.
> > You might need to shell out a lot for an Eggcelent cutting tool nowadays.
> > Brian
> >
>
> The eggs are available, because there are small hobby farms keeping
> exotic birds.

Ostrich eggs are £25 in Waitrose. I suppose people must buy them...

Theo

charles

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In article <s37iqf$sn2$1...@gioia.aioe.org>,
The strenght of the shell is much less inside to out.

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Rod Speed

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Brian Gaff (Sofa) <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote

> Yes I was thinking that.

> I'm not sure where you would get either egg these days anyway.

Emu eggs are still available here, but more restricted than they once were.

> You might need to shell out a lot for an Eggcelent cutting tool nowadays.

I'd have you publicly flogged for that if you hadn't
so obviously enjoyed that the last time. And don’t
try claiming that we cant flog the blind either.

Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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It was a J O K E

Brian

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It used a Bill ders drill.
Brian

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Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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Yes we will sell for a good price on the black market cos all we see is
black. Actually that is not the case but it was just too tempting.

Public flogged, How do you know we might not enjoy it? It takes all sorts.
At least I did not suggest you sawed the whole Ostrich in half then the egg
would be softer and you could eat well for a few days.
Brian

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One of the Scottish farms followed on "This Farming Life" on
BBC2 tried rearing Emu's ? for meat, but gave up because it
cost more than the potential returns. Also tricky to incubate
them successfully.

susanb

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I've been cutting Ostrich & Emu Eggshells. Tried Everything.
First pencil where you want cut. Use a COPING saw to gently make a shallow cut in egg all around. Then, go around again, going deeper with each round until egg is cut in half. Will be a little rough, Put med. grit sandpaper flat and rub shell half over it 'til smooth. Trim will cover -up flaws.

Rod Speed

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susanb <c6bb2402b7a76bd7...@example.com> wrote

> I've been cutting Ostrich & Emu Eggshells. Tried Everything.

> First pencil where you want cut. Use a COPING saw to gently make a
> shallow cut in egg all around. Then, go around again, going deeper with
> each round until egg is cut in half. Will be a little rough, Put med.
> grit sandpaper flat and rub shell half over it 'til smooth. Trim will
> cover -up flaws.

Rather likely that in 15 years he managed to work it out for himself or gave
up.

Peeler

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On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:01:02 +0000, susanb wrote:

> I've been cutting Ostrich & Emu Eggshells. Tried Everything.
> First pencil where you want cut. Use a COPING saw to gently make a
> shallow cut in egg all around. Then, go around again, going deeper with
> each round until egg is cut in half. Will be a little rough, Put med.
> grit sandpaper flat and rub shell half over it 'til smooth. Trim will
> cover -up flaws.

Use a guillotine.

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>On 20/04/2021 09:00, jon wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:01:02 +0000, susanb wrote:
>>
>>> I've been cutting Ostrich & Emu Eggshells. Tried Everything.
>>> First pencil where you want cut. Use a COPING saw to gently make a
>>> shallow cut in egg all around. Then, go around again, going deeper with
>>> each round until egg is cut in half. Will be a little rough, Put med.
>>> grit sandpaper flat and rub shell half over it 'til smooth. Trim will
>>> cover -up flaws.
>> Use a guillotine.
>>
>laser cutter
>
>
Angle grinder.
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bert
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