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LPG domestic cooker not requiring electricity supply?

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Harry Davis

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May 1, 2012, 7:10:42 PM5/1/12
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Where can I get an LPG domestic 60cm x 60cm cooker on which everything
works without an electricity supply? I mean each ring, the grill, and the
oven - I don't care about any clock etc.

N

Harry Davis

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May 1, 2012, 7:10:47 PM5/1/12
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Where can I get an LPG domestic 60cm x 60cm cooker on which everything
works without an electricity supply? I mean each ring, the grill, and the
oven - I don't care about any clock etc.

Harry

The Natural Philosopher

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May 1, 2012, 7:17:11 PM5/1/12
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caravan shop maybe?

maybe they nneed 12v for the auto igniters tho


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harry

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May 2, 2012, 3:48:27 AM5/2/12
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Well even the electrically lit ones I have seen could be manually
lit. I had one myself a few years back.

tin...@isbd.co.uk

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May 2, 2012, 5:20:30 AM5/2/12
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The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Harry Davis wrote:
> > Where can I get an LPG domestic 60cm x 60cm cooker on which everything
> > works without an electricity supply? I mean each ring, the grill, and the
> > oven - I don't care about any clock etc.
> >
> > Harry
>
> caravan shop maybe?
>
> maybe they nneed 12v for the auto igniters tho
>
Our fairly standard gas hob works fine during power cuts, you just
need a match/lighter to light the gas instead of using the spark
ignition.

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NT

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May 2, 2012, 5:13:20 AM5/2/12
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On May 2, 12:10 am, Harry Davis <t...@is.invalid> wrote:
Any basic domestic gas oven should work without electricity. Replacing
the jets is required when changing fuels.


NT

Harry Davis

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May 2, 2012, 9:38:14 AM5/2/12
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NT <meow...@care2.com> wrote in
news:0c4b98ca-d25d-4e27...@u14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:

> On May 2, 12:10 am, Harry Davis <t...@is.invalid> wrote:
>> Where can I get an LPG domestic 60cm x 60cm cooker on which
>> everything works without an electricity supply? I mean each ring, the
>> grill, and the oven - I don't care about any  clock etc.

> Any basic domestic gas oven should work without electricity.

Unfortunately, quite a lot of people are telling me their gas ovens made in
the last 5 years won't work without electricity.

Harry


S Viemeister

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May 2, 2012, 9:52:11 AM5/2/12
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Yes, this is true. I first ran into this over 30 years ago, with a
two-oven unit. The smaller, upper one needed electricity, the lower,
large one, did not. Cookers I've had since then all require electricity
for the oven to operate. Of course, the hob can be lit manually, but
baking and roasting are out of the question.

NT

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May 2, 2012, 9:56:59 AM5/2/12
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On May 2, 2:38 pm, Harry Davis <t...@is.invalid> wrote:
You could get one older than that.


NT

newshound

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May 2, 2012, 11:39:27 AM5/2/12
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I thought most standard 60x60 "gas cookers" have had electric, not gas,
ovens for much longer than that.

John Williamson

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May 2, 2012, 11:54:05 AM5/2/12
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newshound wrote:
>
> I thought most standard 60x60 "gas cookers" have had electric, not gas,
> ovens for much longer than that.

<looks into kitchen> Not all. Mine doesn't need electricity once it's
lit, either. It's a Beko Cascade 50 from Comet if you're looking round.
The sales droid said that electricity was required all the time, but he
was mistaken, as the flame failure devices are all the old fashioned
"thermocouple and solenoid valve" type.

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John Williamson

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May 2, 2012, 11:57:03 AM5/2/12
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And to keep this on topic for the thread, it can be rejetted to use LPG
using an official manufacturer's kit. ;-)

Steve Firth

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May 2, 2012, 12:19:39 PM5/2/12
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A chandlers. They are still sold for use on (large) boats and will be
comprehensively fitted with flame failure devices. You'll need a sensible
traditional supplier. Most dealing with "yotties" only sell tiny versions.

Some commercial ovens will also work.

TBH even ones that have an electricity supply should be functional without
one. The electricity provides a spark and operates the clock ( if fitted).
I bought a cheap 60cm gas cooker with gas oven from Argos two years ago to
replace one in a rented house. It cost all of £180 I think and also worked
without electricity.

Tim

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May 2, 2012, 1:04:03 PM5/2/12
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Only with the proviso that they don't have oven timer controls. If you can
programme the oven then you can be pretty sure that nothing will work
without electricity.

Tim

Harry Davis

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May 2, 2012, 1:33:33 PM5/2/12
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NT <meow...@care2.com> wrote in
news:6e2c9935-bd0e-49a8...@12g2000vba.googlegroups.com:

> On May 2, 2:38 pm, Harry Davis <t...@is.invalid> wrote:
>> NT <meow2...@care2.com> wrote
>> innews:0c4b98ca-d25d-4e27-b8f6-e234f3cd9bfe
> @u14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On May 2, 12:10 am, Harry Davis <t...@is.invalid> wrote:
>> >> Where can I get an LPG domestic 60cm x 60cm cooker on which
>> >> everything works without an electricity supply? I mean each ring,
>> >> the grill, and the oven - I don't care about any  clock etc.
>> > Any basic domestic gas oven should work without electricity.
>>
>> Unfortunately, quite a lot of people are telling me their gas ovens
>> made in the last 5 years won't work without electricity.

> You could get one older than that.

Any idea where?

Harry

geoff

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May 2, 2012, 2:32:45 PM5/2/12
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In message
<0c4b98ca-d25d-4e27...@u14g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>, NT
<meow...@care2.com> writes
>On May 2, 12:10 am, Harry Davis <t...@is.invalid> wrote:
>> Where can I get an LPG domestic 60cm x 60cm cooker on which everything
>> works without an electricity supply? I mean each ring, the grill, and the
>> oven - I don't care about any  clock etc.
>>
>> N
>
>Any basic domestic gas oven should work without electricity.

Not if the flame sense device is electronic


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Steve Firth

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May 2, 2012, 2:49:44 PM5/2/12
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Tim <timdow...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Only with the proviso that they don't have oven timer controls. If you can
> programme the oven then you can be pretty sure that nothing will work
> without electricity.

I can't recall ever seeing a gas oven with automatic controls. <Google>
Oh they do exist - can't see the point myself. However I think you're
wrong to say "nothing will work" the electric oven/gas hob unit that I
have has a timer and the hob works when there is a power cut and the
oven stays in manual mode, it just doesn't do anything because... it's
electric.


Man at B&Q

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May 3, 2012, 7:58:09 AM5/3/12
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Eh?

Ian Field

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May 7, 2012, 3:14:45 PM5/7/12
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"The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:jnpqtn$bct$1...@news.albasani.net...
> Harry Davis wrote:
>> Where can I get an LPG domestic 60cm x 60cm cooker on which everything
>> works without an electricity supply? I mean each ring, the grill, and the
>> oven - I don't care about any clock etc.
>>
>> Harry
>
> caravan shop maybe?
>
> maybe they nneed 12v for the auto igniters tho


Single cell (1.5V alkaline) igniters ate pretty common on domestic stoves -
shouldn't be that hard to find on a caravan stove either.


Ian Field

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May 7, 2012, 3:18:36 PM5/7/12
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"Harry Davis" <th...@is.invalid> wrote in message
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Possibly freegle or freecycle via yahoo webmail - there's usually
a<location>swapshop if you don't mind handing over cash.


hugh

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May 7, 2012, 4:51:59 PM5/7/12
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In message <IaVpr.550975$xD4.4...@fx06.am4>, Ian Field
<gangprob...@ntlworld.com> writes
Anything in a caravan will run on 12v.
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Harry Davis

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Jun 20, 2012, 4:08:01 AM6/20/12
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John Williamson <johnwil...@btinternet.com> wrote in news:a0d3l0FgsvU1
@mid.individual.net:
Thanks for this. Do you need an electrical supply for the ignition? Or can
you run the whole thing without electricity, and light both the hob and
cooker with a match? Thanks again!

Harry

charles

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Jun 20, 2012, 4:16:31 AM6/20/12
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In article <XnsA0785CE60C...@88.198.244.100>, Harry Davis
you used to be able to get gas cookers with battery ignition as well as
some that used a piezo effect spark.

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John Williamson

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Jun 20, 2012, 11:04:04 AM6/20/12
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It has a built in igniter which needs mains, but works fine as a cooker
when it's unplugged if you use a match, cigarette lighter or cheap piezo
igniter. No matter how you light it, you need to hold the control knob
pressed in until the thermocouple warms up.

Harry Davis

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Jun 22, 2012, 9:32:37 AM6/22/12
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John Williamson <johnwil...@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:a4e737...@mid.individual.net:
Thanks for this. I've been having trouble finding one. So many droids are
telling me it's ever so dangerous to use matches. So I may just go out
and get one just like yours!

Just to confirm - can you light the oven (not just the hob) when it's
unplugged?

(I meant to say "oven" but typed "cooker" instead above.)

Thanks again!

Harry

John Williamson

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Jun 22, 2012, 10:15:12 AM6/22/12
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Harry Davis wrote:
>
> Thanks for this. I've been having trouble finding one. So many droids are
> telling me it's ever so dangerous to use matches. So I may just go out
> and get one just like yours!
>
> Just to confirm - can you light the oven (not just the hob) when it's
> unplugged?
>
Yes, just watch out for your hair and eyebrows. ;-)
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