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fred

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Oct 25, 2012, 12:39:47 PM10/25/12
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I've been experimenting with roasting meat at lower than normal oven
temps (100degC or so) and have been loving the results, really tender
meat and pink right to the edge (if that's what you want).

End point determined by a meat thermometer inserted into the meat.

Enter Lidl wireless meat thermometer, currently on sale at £12.99,
bought one today, looks ideal as there's no need to take the meat out of
the oven to check the temp. Has wired temp probe to wireless base,
remote display/controller with alarms for temps (well, degrees of
done-ness) and timers.
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it's a ba-na-na . . . .

polygonum

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Oct 25, 2012, 12:56:31 PM10/25/12
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I was wondering about that - am rather hoping someone will use theirs
tonight and let us know whether it is worth getting one?

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Rod

Jeremy Nicoll - news posts

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Oct 25, 2012, 3:08:06 PM10/25/12
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fred <n...@for.mail> wrote:

>Enter Lidl wireless meat thermometer, currently on sale at �12.99,
>bought one today, looks ideal as there's no need to take the meat out of
>the oven to check the temp. Has wired temp probe to wireless base,
>remote display/controller with alarms for temps (well, degrees of
>done-ness) and timers.

Does the bit inside the oven have a battery in it? How does it wirelessly
transmit out of a metal-sided oven?

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polygonum

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Oct 25, 2012, 3:11:31 PM10/25/12
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On 25/10/2012 20:08, Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:
> fred <n...@for.mail> wrote:
>
>> Enter Lidl wireless meat thermometer, currently on sale at �12.99,
>> bought one today, looks ideal as there's no need to take the meat out of
>> the oven to check the temp. Has wired temp probe to wireless base,
>> remote display/controller with alarms for temps (well, degrees of
>> done-ness) and timers.
>
> Does the bit inside the oven have a battery in it? How does it wirelessly
> transmit out of a metal-sided oven?
>
The temp probe is wired.

The 'base station' sits on the worktop near the cooked

The remote bit has display and alarm, etc. So you can wander off and
still be informed it has reached temperature - or time.

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Rod

Tim+

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Oct 25, 2012, 3:14:36 PM10/25/12
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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp....@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> wrote:
> fred <n...@for.mail> wrote:
>
>> Enter Lidl wireless meat thermometer, currently on sale at £12.99,
>> bought one today, looks ideal as there's no need to take the meat out of
>> the oven to check the temp. Has wired temp probe to wireless base,
>> remote display/controller with alarms for temps (well, degrees of
>> done-ness) and timers.
>
> Does the bit inside the oven have a battery in it? How does it wirelessly
> transmit out of a metal-sided oven?


I could be wrong but it only says that the link between the base unit and
the display is wireless, not between the temperature probe and the base.

http://lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg//SID-E989C881-757212A7/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_35553.htm?offerdate=&ar2=&ERR=noservice

I'm guessing it has a thin lead that passes through the oven door seal.

Tim

Jeremy Nicoll - news posts

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Oct 25, 2012, 3:21:19 PM10/25/12
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Ah. The other picture shows that. Pity they don't say how long the thin
lead actually is, for those of us with ovens in a tall unit not terribly
close to a worktop...

I see Lidl don't say it's a wireless thermometer...
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D.M.Chapman

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Oct 26, 2012, 3:12:38 AM10/26/12
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In article <mpro.mcgr3i...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>,
Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp....@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> wrote:

>>I could be wrong but it only says that the link between the base unit and
>>the display is wireless, not between the temperature probe and the base.

Yes, the probe is attached to the base with a cable. The LCD bit is wireless
to the base, and has a belt clip.

>>I'm guessing it has a thin lead that passes through the oven door seal.

Yep, exactly that.

>Ah. The other picture shows that. Pity they don't say how long the thin
>lead actually is, for those of us with ovens in a tall unit not terribly
>close to a worktop...

It's 1m from the probe to the unit (i've just measured the dead one I've
got here :-))

>I see Lidl don't say it's a wireless thermometer...

Word of warning...

Between me and my dad, we've had 3 of these. All three have died, 2 in the
same way. Within a few months the probes fail and all they read is HI making
them completely useless. The 3rd one never worked reliably from day one
and was swapped after a couple of days - couldn't reliably maintain the
wireless connection.

I've also had two of a different type, and they failed in the same way
(not as quickly as the lidl ones though). Used to have one that worked
solidly for 10 years, until I dropped it and broke the screen so it is
possible to find reliable ones...

The probes on these things appear to be a real weak point. I'm now looking
for something more reliable but struggling. I've heard good things about
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000W02F0G/ but no long term experience. The
silicone around the end of the probe is promising though, as is the
Mastrad name. Pricy though.

If you get the lidl one, please report back on it's failure mode ;-)

Darren

fred

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Oct 26, 2012, 5:08:51 AM10/26/12
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In article <k6dd56$qfc$1...@dont-email.me>, D.M.Chapman <dmc@puffin.?>
writes
>
>Word of warning...
>
>Between me and my dad, we've had 3 of these. All three have died, 2 in the
>same way. Within a few months the probes fail and all they read is HI making
>them completely useless. The 3rd one never worked reliably from day one
>and was swapped after a couple of days - couldn't reliably maintain the
>wireless connection.
>
>I've also had two of a different type, and they failed in the same way
>(not as quickly as the lidl ones though). Used to have one that worked
>solidly for 10 years, until I dropped it and broke the screen so it is
>possible to find reliable ones...
>
>The probes on these things appear to be a real weak point. I'm now looking
>for something more reliable but struggling. I've heard good things about
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000W02F0G/ but no long term experience. The
>silicone around the end of the probe is promising though, as is the
>Mastrad name. Pricy though.
>
>If you get the lidl one, please report back on it's failure mode ;-)
>
Thanks for the info, this one claims a 2 year warranty so I'll keep the
receipt and printout of the webpage in case of return.

The probe looks pretty robust but following your comments I'll treat it
gently. It's a stainless tube about 4mm dia with a pointed end, other
end has a soft 90deg bend before cable exit which at least means there's
no need for sharp bends in the cable to route it out of the oven. Cable
is braided stainless of about a metre long ending in a 2mm jack to the
wireless sender. It appears to use a thermistor sensor, 310k at room
temp and 150k shortly after being put in my pit (arm).

It has the usual set temperatures for taste or you can set it to alarm
at any temperature you like meaning you can set it to alarm a bit before
target to compensate for the rise when resting. I was cooking chicken
last night before I found the variable setting and though the 'well'
setting for poultry (the only avail setting on poultry) was a bit high
at 85C I used it on beef and watched the temp rise after setting the
alarm at 'med well' setting of 75C. Remote disp is backlit with timed
off.

Niggles:

The use of braid for the sensor cable worries me a little as any food
residue won't wipe off, I'd have preferred a ptfe outer.

Instructions say the temp alarm can be cancelled by hitting any key but
it only suspends it for a few seconds, you need to raise the target temp
or switch the sender off to silence it completely, the latter losing the
ability to follow temp rise on resting.

Wireless range is pathetic, with the 15m quoted I expected it would be
and yes, it is 15m outdoors! It fails to work here beyond about 8m
through 2 half brick walls, so no monitoring from the lounge.


Overall verdict:

Flawed but usable and acceptable at the price paid.
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polygonum

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Oct 26, 2012, 6:06:52 AM10/26/12
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Thanks lots for that - now still have to make up my mind. Get one. Don't
get one. Hmmm - does it have a Chippendale effect?

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fred

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Oct 26, 2012, 8:04:59 AM10/26/12
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In article <aev5m0...@mid.individual.net>, polygonum
<rmoud...@vrod.co.uk> writes
It's only thirteen quid, go for it. They're not going to last long at
that price.

Even with the wireless range issues it's far easier to use than the
carving fork type version that I used to use and that was really
helpful.

>Hmmm - does it have a Chippendale effect?
>
I would not recommend sticking it in your pecs . . . .

This may be more appropriate for anyone considering Frankenstein type
modifications:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Master-Class-Stainless-Steel-Injector/dp/B001HZMOII/

polygonum

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Oct 26, 2012, 8:07:13 AM10/26/12
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On 26/10/2012 13:04, fred wrote:
<>
> I would not recommend sticking it in your pecs . . . .
>
> This may be more appropriate for anyone considering Frankenstein type
> modifications:
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Master-Class-Stainless-Steel-Injector/dp/B001HZMOII/
>
>
And a wodge of steroids... ?

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whisky-dave

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Oct 26, 2012, 8:55:38 AM10/26/12
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On Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:39:07 PM UTC+1, fred wrote:
> I've been experimenting with roasting meat at lower than normal oven
>
> temps (100degC or so) and have been loving the results, really tender
>
> meat and pink right to the edge (if that's what you want).
>
>
>
> End point determined by a meat thermometer inserted into the meat.
>
>
>
> Enter Lidl wireless meat thermometer, currently on sale at �12.99,
>
> bought one today, looks ideal as there's no need to take the meat out of
>
> the oven to check the temp. Has wired temp probe to wireless base,
>
> remote display/controller with alarms for temps (well, degrees of
>
> done-ness) and timers.
>
> --
>
> fred
>
> it's a ba-na-na . . . .



I would think one of the problems of having a wireless sensor is that of temperature as the wireless ensor would need a battery and I'm not sure hwio the average battery would perforom in oven temeratures that can exceed 240C.

I ahd a wireless weather sensor I put it in the frezzr it lasted a couple of weeks and went down to -19C . Never tried putting it in the oven as it was plastic :-)
Most oven probes seem to be just thermocouples that produce a small voltage and that voltages represents the temperature .


fred

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Oct 26, 2012, 9:11:42 AM10/26/12
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In article <9d7c89bf-5846-48b4...@googlegroups.com>,
whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> writes
>
>I would think one of the problems of having a wireless sensor is that of temperature
>as the wireless ensor would need a battery and I'm not sure hwio the average
>battery would perforom in oven temeratures that can exceed 240C.
>
I know it wasn't exactly riveting prose but I though you might have made
it to line 7 of the OP:

"Has wired temp probe to wireless base, remote display/controller . . .

whisky-dave

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Oct 26, 2012, 9:47:54 AM10/26/12
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On Friday, October 26, 2012 2:11:02 PM UTC+1, fred wrote:
> In article <9d7c89bf-5846-48b4...@googlegroups.com>,
>
> whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> writes
>
> >
>
> >I would think one of the problems of having a wireless sensor is that of temperature
>
> >as the wireless ensor would need a battery and I'm not sure hwio the average
>
> >battery would perforom in oven temeratures that can exceed 240C.
>
> >
>
> I know it wasn't exactly riveting prose but I though you might have made
>
> it to line 7 of the OP:

Well I did try but become frustrated by lack of a link and you can;t beleive everything that is copy and pasted.

From Tims post I got to see the actual device, which still confused me a little, as to what's the point, oh I can be in another room while monitoring the tempature of the oven, something I've done before but not wirelessly.

On going to the site I was a little confused further by :-

"Determines the ideal core temperature and cooking time"

How does it determine ?, I can see how it measures.

Maybe be if the temprature is 150C it gives a set cooking time, but defining the ideal is somewhat more difficult I'd assume.


"Portable control with belt clip connects wirelessly to base unit with 15m range"

How does it control ?, I can't see any way of adjusting the oven temerature from either the wireless unit or even the base station, so I'm still confused by how it controls.

metric...@yahoo.com

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Oct 26, 2012, 10:23:49 AM10/26/12
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Price £14
http://thermometer.co.uk/406-dishwasher-thermometer.html
Dishwasher safe.


Price £17
http://thermometer.co.uk/427-oven-thermometer-and-timer.html
Has a temperature alarm. They also said it has a magnet to attach on outside of oven.

Grimly Curmudgeon

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Oct 26, 2012, 11:16:55 AM10/26/12
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:39:47 +0100, fred <n...@for.mail> wrote:

>really tender
>meat and pink right to the edge (if that's what you want)

Sam and Ella's Catering Co?

The Other Mike

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Oct 26, 2012, 12:00:30 PM10/26/12
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Give it to James Herriot and it'll be walking round the field again.


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fred

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Oct 26, 2012, 12:56:38 PM10/26/12
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In article <f93fc3a2-4cbb-4522...@googlegroups.com>,
whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> writes
>On Friday, October 26, 2012 2:11:02 PM UTC+1, fred wrote:
>>
>> I know it wasn't exactly riveting prose but I though you might have made
>>
>> it to line 7 of the OP:
>
>Well I did try but become frustrated by lack of a link

Ah well, some day you're going to have to learn to wipe your own arse.

Ta ta.
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