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Another John

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Sep 23, 2012, 6:11:06 AM9/23/12
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Hi all

My mate wonders if uk.d-i-y can help:

He needs to remove a (?)close coupled toilet in order to renew the floor
and can't see a way to disassemble it. He says it's somewhat similar to
this one:

http://www.ukbathroomstore.co.uk/heritage-zaar-pzwf00-white-backtowall-p-
171405.html?currency=GBP

... where I see that it's described as a "back-to-wall" toilet. The
soil pipe and the water supply are completely hidden.

Is there a trick ... rephrase that: _what_ is the trick to disassembling
WCs like this?

Cheers
John

p.s. Before sending this I scanned the d-i-y group history and found no
answer, though I did find some entertaining and/or disgusting threads!

The Medway Handyman

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Sep 23, 2012, 10:28:45 AM9/23/12
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On 23/09/2012 11:11, Another John wrote:
> Hi all
>
> My mate wonders if uk.d-i-y can help:
>
> He needs to remove a (?)close coupled toilet in order to renew the floor
> and can't see a way to disassemble it. He says it's somewhat similar to
> this one:
>
> http://www.ukbathroomstore.co.uk/heritage-zaar-pzwf00-white-backtowall-p-
> 171405.html?currency=GBP
>
> ... where I see that it's described as a "back-to-wall" toilet. The
> soil pipe and the water supply are completely hidden.
>
> Is there a trick ... rephrase that: _what_ is the trick to disassembling
> WCs like this?

These things are the spawn of Satan.

If you look behind you will see the water in and waste out on some. om
others they are behind (hopefully) an access panel.

Once the floor fixings are removed the whole unit should slide forward.
--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

harryagain

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Sep 23, 2012, 1:52:16 PM9/23/12
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"Another John" <lal...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lalaw44-1E8ED4...@surfnet-nl.ipv4.ptr.145.109.x.invalid...
Take the lid off the tank, it is secured to the wall with two or three
screws along the top edge.
Look under the tank, you will see a couple of nuts (often wing nuts) that
secure the tank to the bowl. The bolts pass through the bowl.
At least, thisi s the normal way it is done.


Another John

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Sep 23, 2012, 3:28:29 PM9/23/12
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In article <k3ni8r$6mq$1...@dont-email.me>,
"harryagain" <harol...@aol.com> wrote:

> > ... needs to remove a (?)close coupled toilet in order to renew the floor
> > and can't see a way to disassemble it. He says it's somewhat similar to
> > this one:
> >
> > http://www.ukbathroomstore.co.uk/heritage-zaar-pzwf00-white-backtowall-p-
> > 171405.html?currency=GBP
> >
> > ... where I see that it's described as a "back-to-wall" toilet. The
> > soil pipe and the water supply are completely hidden.

> Take the lid off the tank, it is secured to the wall with two or three
> screws along the top edge.
> Look under the tank, you will see a couple of nuts (often wing nuts) that
> secure the tank to the bowl. The bolts pass through the bowl.
> At least, thisi s the normal way it is done.


Yes - thanks Harry, but I now think that my terminology is definitely
wrong: I think you're describing a standard "close-coupled" toilet,
whereas I should have asked about a "back-to-the-wall" toilet: you can
see that I have learned a little since I first posted!

TMH has given us what we think we need to know: detach from floor, and
pull away from the wall -- presumably hoping that you don't empty half a
soil pipe on to the floor in so doing?!

Cheers
John

John Rumm

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Sep 23, 2012, 5:03:40 PM9/23/12
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On 23/09/2012 11:11, Another John wrote:
> Hi all
>
> My mate wonders if uk.d-i-y can help:
>
> He needs to remove a (?)close coupled toilet in order to renew the floor
> and can't see a way to disassemble it. He says it's somewhat similar to
> this one:
>
> http://www.ukbathroomstore.co.uk/heritage-zaar-pzwf00-white-backtowall-p-
> 171405.html?currency=GBP
>
> ... where I see that it's described as a "back-to-wall" toilet. The
> soil pipe and the water supply are completely hidden.

That's not a close coupled toilet then ;-)

> Is there a trick ... rephrase that: _what_ is the trick to disassembling
> WCs like this?

Usually there are a couple of bolts that hold it against the wall. On
the ones that hang from the wall and do not reach the floor at all,
these can be fairly substantial and transfer all the load to a frame
that is hidden behind the "wall".


--
Cheers,

John.

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John Rumm

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Sep 23, 2012, 5:07:29 PM9/23/12
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When you build these things you normally have to erect all the gubbins
for the cistern, and the mounting frame, and then leave the pipes ready
to push into the back of the pan once the wall is built.

The WC connector ought to be after the water trap in the pan, an so
should not have too may undesirables ready to leap out at you (unless
the reason for removal is for blockage clearance, in which case YMMV ;-)

SteveW

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Sep 23, 2012, 5:11:47 PM9/23/12
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On 23/09/2012 20:28, Another John wrote:
Reasonably vigorous use of the toilet brush will push much of the water
in the u-bend out, so that you won't spill it when you detach the toilet
afterwards.

SteveW

newshound

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Sep 23, 2012, 5:34:57 PM9/23/12
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On 23/09/2012 22:11, SteveW wrote:

>
> Reasonably vigorous use of the toilet brush will push much of the water
> in the u-bend out, so that you won't spill it when you detach the toilet
> afterwards.

Wet and dry vac will take it all out. Also empty the cistern fully.
Always worth having one to hand for such jobs.



Another John

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Sep 24, 2012, 4:57:16 AM9/24/12
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OP here: many thanks to all posters: we are now armed for the fray: I'll
let you know how we get on!
(Or rather how my mate gets on -- he's on his own for this one, which is
replacing a rotted bathroom floor in a house a hundred miles away.
(Thinks ...... wonder whythe bathroom floor's rotted?????..........)

John

GB

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Sep 24, 2012, 6:14:20 AM9/24/12
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Are the joists okay?


Another John

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Sep 24, 2012, 9:46:55 AM9/24/12
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In article <5060327d$0$7323$5b6a...@news.zen.co.uk>,
GB <NOTso...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> On 24/09/2012 09:57, Another John wrote:
> > ...many thanks to all posters: we are now armed for the fray: I'll
> > let you know how we get on!
> > (Or rather how my mate gets on -- he's on his own for this one, which is
> > replacing a rotted bathroom floor in a house a hundred miles away.
> > (Thinks ...... wonder whythe bathroom floor's rotted?????..........)
>
> Are the joists okay?

No - he knows that already: that's why *everything* has to come out (and
up) :-(

J.

The Medway Handyman

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Sep 24, 2012, 4:15:24 PM9/24/12
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