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Rick Hughes

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Jun 16, 2014, 9:11:27 AM6/16/14
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Going to be using a PC fan on a non-PC project. (details in earlier thread)

I bought (and also recommended here) the ARCTIC F12 PRO TC

It arrived ... and as well as standard 3 pin lead which is normally +ve,
-ve & tacho
It has a separate lead with temp sensor ..... I do not wish the fan to
control itself I want to control it from external unit .... anybody know
how to disable this tempo sense function.





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Toby

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Jun 16, 2014, 10:05:09 AM6/16/14
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On 16/06/2014 14:11, Rick Hughes wrote:
> Going to be using a PC fan on a non-PC project. (details in earlier
> thread)
>
> I bought (and also recommended here) the ARCTIC F12 PRO TC
>
> It arrived ... and as well as standard 3 pin lead which is normally +ve,
> -ve & tacho
> It has a separate lead with temp sensor ..... I do not wish the fan to
> control itself I want to control it from external unit .... anybody know
> how to disable this tempo sense function.
>
>

I think these are usually just a thermistor, so if you short it out, it
should run at full speed.
If not, leave it open circuit ;)



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Andrew Gabriel

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Jun 16, 2014, 10:30:53 AM6/16/14
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In article <lnmthe$rk7$1...@dont-email.me>,
Are you sure?
4-wire fans IME are power (two), tacho output, and speed control input
(usually PWM nowadays). The PWM signal input is separated from the power
so the tacho output still works at low mark-space PWM ratios. Also, the
fan uses the PWM input as a guide only, and won't drop below min
sustainable fan speed, and will boost the fan to start it even if
initial low mark-space PWM ratio at powerup.

(I was playing with some large Sanyo Denki ones, pulled from an E4500 Sun
server, a couple of weeks ago.)

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Rick Hughes

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Jun 16, 2014, 11:21:51 AM6/16/14
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On 16/06/2014 15:30, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
)
>
> Are you sure?
> 4-wire fans IME are power (two), tacho output, and speed control input
> (usually PWM nowadays). The PWM signal input is separated from the power
> so the tacho output still works at low mark-space PWM ratios. Also, the
> fan uses the PWM input as a guide only, and won't drop below min
> sustainable fan speed, and will boost the fan to start it even if
> initial low mark-space PWM ratio at powerup.
>
> (I was playing with some large Sanyo Denki ones, pulled from an E4500 Sun
> server, a couple of weeks ago.)
>

This is not a 4-wire fan.


This is a 3 wire fan (3 wires to standard 3 pin fan plug) there is a
totally separate cable which terminates on a thermistor.

i.e see link: http://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/arctic-f12-tc.html

seems what I should have got was F12 'NOT' F12 TC

Rick Hughes

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Jun 16, 2014, 11:21:56 AM6/16/14
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I'll try both

Rick Hughes

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Jun 16, 2014, 11:28:29 AM6/16/14
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I just gave wrong link ... it should be:
http://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/arctic-f12-pro.html


Maybe I just need go buy another fan. (annoyed at my mistake)

Dave Liquorice

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Jun 16, 2014, 12:02:11 PM6/16/14
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 15:05:09 +0100, Toby wrote:

> I think these are usually just a thermistor, so if you short it out, it
> should run at full speed. If not, leave it open circuit ;)

Or the middle ground replace it with a fixed value resistor which
should be far more stable than a thermistor in relation to
temperature changes. Value? Measure the resistance of the thermister
when it "hot" say 40 or 50 C.

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Bob Minchin

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Jun 16, 2014, 3:46:06 PM6/16/14
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Or be kind, fit a resitor value that kids it that it is a bit too hot.
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