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cp...@o2.co.uk

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Jul 27, 2019, 9:33:29 AM7/27/19
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Hi All,

We want to put up curtains in front of a set of bifold doors.
The pole / track width needs to be 4M give or take.

After a bit of googling, I’ve found extra long curtain poles
(We’d prefer poles).

However, they are only 28mm
Diameter (don’t know the wall thickness) and although they only come with 3 brackets, I’m worried the pole will sag (the curtains are medium weight and lined).

I don’t want to buy them, put them up, and find they do.

Has anyone fitted any, and can confirm that don’t sag? or have alternative (pole) suggestions?

TIA

Chris

Jeff Layman

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Jul 27, 2019, 12:21:42 PM7/27/19
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We had the same problem as you. The poles here were 28 mm, antique brass
colour (but made of steel), and 4m long. Originally they we just
supported near both ends, and by one bracket in the middle. The original
curtains were of thin, lightweight material, and really the poles were
fine for that.

We wanted to replace the curtains with very heavyweight curtains, and
the original brackets weren't up to the job. And we wanted a further
bracket, so that there were now four - one at each end, and one at 1/3
and 2/3 along the length. After a search around, we found there were
"open" type brackets and curtain rings. Examples here:

<https://www.dunelm.com/product/pack-of-2-passover-brackets-1000000451?searchTerm=passover%20brackets>
<https://www.dunelm.com/product/pack-of-6-unlined-passover-curtain-rings-dia-28mm-1000070273>

(We got our brackets and rings from Dunelm, but they were much heavier
duty than the ones in the links. I can't find the ones we used on that
website. You should find them on other websites, but they might be
called "passover", "bypass", or some other name.)

The other thing is that we were also concerned about possible sag in the
middle, so I put a 300mm length of dowel (actually an old broomstick
which was cut off!) in the centre of the curtain pole at the middle. It
was a good fit and we've not had any problems in well over 5 years.

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Jeff

Jeff Layman

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Jul 27, 2019, 1:28:24 PM7/27/19
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I should have made it clear that we had two 2m poles, hence the need for
the dowel in the middle.

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Jeff

Harry Bloomfield

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Jul 27, 2019, 3:29:23 PM7/27/19
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cp...@o2.co.uk laid this down on his screen :
> Diameter (don’t know the wall thickness) and although they only come with 3
> brackets, I’m worried the pole will sag (the curtains are medium weight and
> lined).
>
> I don’t want to buy them, put them up, and find they do.

Likely they will be thin lightweight tube - find the largest diameter
of dowel you can squeeze inside the tube. You will not be able to get a
4m in one length so get 2x 2m and make a strong overlapping joint in
the middle.

cp...@o2.co.uk

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Jul 27, 2019, 3:47:37 PM7/27/19
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Hi Jeff,

If you added extra brackets, how did you then open the curtains?

Or was curtain opening not required in your application?

Cheers

Chris

Jeff Layman

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Jul 27, 2019, 4:40:22 PM7/27/19
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If you look at the curtain pole "ring" in my second link you will see
that it is not "O" shaped but "C" shaped. Being an "open" circle, the
open bit passes over the bracket - basically as though the bracket is
not there.

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Jeff

Dave Liquorice

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Jul 28, 2019, 4:19:35 AM7/28/19
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 06:33:26 -0700 (PDT), cp...@o2.co.uk wrote:

> The pole / track width needs to be 4M give or take.
>
> After a bit of googling, Iâ ve found extra long curtain poles
> (Weâ d prefer poles).
>
> However, they are only 28mm
> Diameter (donâ t know the wall thickness) and although they only come
> with 3 brackets,

Buy 2 x 2m ones. That'll give you four or six brackets depening on
how many come with each pole. Bit of dowel to reinforce the joint(s).

Excercise for the reader on how to have the curtains opening and
closing past the brackets.

> I'm worried the pole will sag (the curtains are medium weight and
> lined).

Put up a 3 m (ie 1.5 m between brackets) metal pole set the other
month. Similar weight curtains, no perceptable sag on three brackets.
Remember the loading is spread along the pole when the curtains are
closed. Only concentrates when open at an end where there is a
bracket.

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Cheers
Dave.



Brian Gaff

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Jul 28, 2019, 4:40:00 AM7/28/19
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In that case, you might be better with rails made for heavy duty curtains
rather than poles as these are designed with custom made curtain
holders/hooks.

Brian

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Brian Reay

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Jul 28, 2019, 4:53:32 AM7/28/19
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We had a similar problem. I joined two shorter poles with a dowel and
ensured the join was at the mid point where there is a bracket (one of the
through type). The curtains are full door height plus a bit and the width
is about 4m. No sagging even after 20 + years (curtains have been changed
of course in that time!).

Andrew

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Jul 28, 2019, 5:23:50 AM7/28/19
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On 28/07/2019 09:39, Brian Gaff wrote:
> In that case, you might be better with rails made for heavy duty curtains
> rather than poles as these are designed with custom made curtain
> holders/hooks.
>
> Brian
>

Get some 2nd hand Swish autoglide tracks. My village hall has
8 of them, with 8 motors and control units, all installed 30
feet above ground, so the remote controls never ever worked
at that range !. Complete waste of money, and now they are
permanently closed.

Roger Hayter

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Jul 28, 2019, 9:28:51 AM7/28/19
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I am surprised no-one thought to replace the remote controls with a
length of wire and a switch.

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Roger Hayter

bert

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Jul 29, 2019, 5:31:54 PM7/29/19
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In article <a037a1c0-7a1a-45dc...@googlegroups.com>,
cp...@o2.co.uk writes
We have some about that length (12ft). Full length lined curtains. No
problems. I think they were from Dunelm.
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bert
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