Dulux gloss trade or standard?
Geoff Gayfer
I went down Texas last night looking for some white gloss. They do
the standard Dulux Gloss and Trade Gloss (and probably some others
but I was choosing between these two). The price didn't seem much
different so I thought I'd try the trade. It seems less rich.
Anyone know the what the marketing rationale between these two
paints, is the trade paint supposed to give a superior or
inferior finish or is it aimed at saving time, or what ?
TIA
Geoff
Chippenham
Max Bone
In article <5137ai$7...@ssbunews.ih.lucent.com>
gga...@mltw020.mlm.lucent.com "Geoff Gayfer" writes:
Unfortunately the word 'Trade' has become associated with cheap,
too many people jumping on the bandwagon! I really don't know
whether there is any difference between the retail and Trade
Dulux gloss paints within Texas. Proffesional gloss paints which
are - generally - well respected within the industry include
Macphersons, Johnstones, Permoglaze and Crown(Trade). I don't
know any decorators using ICI (Dulux) as the products
cost/performance ratio is very much out of line with the rest of
the industry.
I would look up 'Decorators Merchants' in yellow pages and go
and get yourself one of the accepted brands above, you will find
a substantial difference between these and their retail
counterparts.
If you still wanted to know more ICI have a reasonably
comprehensive website at:
Regards
--
Max Bone m...@maxmax.demon.co.uk Co Durham, England.
Tony Eva
m...@maxmax.demon.co.uk wrote:
> I don't know any decorators using ICI (Dulux) as the products
> cost/performance ratio is very much out of line with the rest of the
> industry.
When we had the exterior of our house repainted, the decorator used
Dulux Weathershield which he said was the most durable paint he knew
of. He was a reliable chap and didn't charge an arm and a leg for the
job either.
That was exterior paint, of course; I don't know if the same applies
to Dulux interior stuff.
(Yes, I know I should have d-i-m but I _hate_ painting and heights!)
--
Tony Eva | Nortel, Concorde Rd, Maidenhead, Berkshire, SL6 4AG, UK
ton...@nortel.ca | My opinions only, not Nortel's
Christopher Roberts
If you are comparing Dulux Gloss and Dulux Trade Gloss, the differences
are likely to be quite slight, and related to things (like application
characteristics for example) perceived to be different between the trade
and DIY markets. Trade cans for example would probably not have fancy
graphics, and might not feature as much non-drip additive etc, etc.
My advice to folk is always to use the Dulux DIY products if you are
DingIY, and Trade if you are in the trade. Sounds simplistic, but a LOT
of market and technical research goes into those cans, believe me!
Christopher
Max Bone
In article <DxL4L...@cix.compulink.co.uk>
chris...@cix.compulink.co.uk "Christopher Roberts" writes:
> My advice to folk is always to use the Dulux DIY products if you are
> DingIY, and Trade if you are in the trade. Sounds simplistic, but a LOT
> of market and technical research goes into those cans, believe me!
Everybody has their own opinion, but I find this information
suspect and with little foundation. You should use the
appropriate products for the work you are going to be doing,
weighing up the price vs benifts (as you would for any other
purchase decision).
Max Bone
In article <515vfv$l...@bmdhh222.bnr.ca> ton...@nortel.ca "Tony Eva" writes:
>
> When we had the exterior of our house repainted, the decorator used
> Dulux Weathershield which he said was the most durable paint he knew
> of. He was a reliable chap and didn't charge an arm and a leg for the
> job either.
I'd class that as more of a speciality product, rather than the
the standard Dulux range (to which I was refering). The cost of
the material has little effect on the overall cost to you of
painting the exterior of your property. So using a better
quality product is a sound judgement in my book. After all, if
your going to pay 500.00 to a decorator to apply a paint which
will give you upto two years protection, why not pay 530.00 to
apply a product which will give you 5 years of protection.
Dulux Weathershield is indeed an excellent product... I wish
everybody used similar products.
Regards
Christopher Roberts
> Everybody has their own opinion, but I find this information
> suspect and with little foundation. You should use the
> appropriate products for the work you are going to be doing,
> weighing up the price vs benifts (as you would for any other
> purchase decision).
> Max Bone m...@maxmax.demon.co.uk Co Durham, England.
I certainly agree with the sentiments concerning weighing up the price
against the benefits. But most people are unwilling or unable to carry
out the series of tests on a range of paints to test if the particular
product suits their particular application. So practically, we are unable
to assess the benefits. Hence the suggestion to trust the experts of
reputable companies such as Dulux, or Crown for that matter, in their
recommendations. These recommendations (for example the directions on the
cans) are scrutinised by those writing them and their competitors for
flaws, false claims or other inaccuracies.
I personally advocate doing the best surface preparation you know
how.and use the best quality paint you can afford. In my experience that
pays off as most people don't enjoy having to repaint every few years -
the result of shoddy surface preparation or cheaper products.
But as you say, everyone has their own opinion.
By the way my "foundation" consists of 15 years in R&D in the paint
industry! (But not any more) I'm sorry you are suspicious of my
posting. You obviously don't know me.
Christopher
Max Bone
In article <Dxows...@cix.compulink.co.uk>
chris...@cix.compulink.co.uk "Christopher Roberts" writes:
> But as you say, everyone has their own opinion.
>
> By the way my "foundation" consists of 15 years in R&D in the paint
> industry! (But not any more)
out of interest.... who with?
>I'm sorry you are suspicious of my posting. You obviously
>don't know me.
don't be sorry :-)