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David
Apr 1, 2015, 6:14:22 AM4/1/15
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Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
So; requirements.
I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed) behind
some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace with
another.
I don't want to buy laminated maps and use Blu Tack.
The wall I have in mind as first attempt has OSB behind the plaster board
to make wall mounting stuff a bit easier.
However I also want a solution which will work on normal plastered brick/
block walls.
My first thought is to buy a flat bit of plastic sheet (but which type?)
and drill the corners to take screws which then screw into wall plugs.
Probably mirror screws with the chrome tops to hide the screw behind.
We looked at having the maps framed but framing a decent sized map is
framing expensive!
The biggest problem that I anticipate is flattening the map and holding it
to the clear plastic whilst fitting it to the wall; I have an image of a
lot of cursing and swearing as the map slips to the floor each time I try
and fit it to the wall.
I know that spray mount can be used to attach pictures to display boards.
Is there a (temporary) spray mount which is also transparent which could
be used to stick the map to the plastic and hold whilst offering up to the
wall but allow the map to be removed undamaged when the time comes to
change the map?
Bonus if the clear plastic can be drawn on (e.g. for planning a route on
an OS map) and then wiped clean.
Cheers
Dave R
--
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box
So; requirements.
I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed) behind
some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace with
another.
I don't want to buy laminated maps and use Blu Tack.
The wall I have in mind as first attempt has OSB behind the plaster board
to make wall mounting stuff a bit easier.
However I also want a solution which will work on normal plastered brick/
block walls.
My first thought is to buy a flat bit of plastic sheet (but which type?)
and drill the corners to take screws which then screw into wall plugs.
Probably mirror screws with the chrome tops to hide the screw behind.
We looked at having the maps framed but framing a decent sized map is
framing expensive!
The biggest problem that I anticipate is flattening the map and holding it
to the clear plastic whilst fitting it to the wall; I have an image of a
lot of cursing and swearing as the map slips to the floor each time I try
and fit it to the wall.
I know that spray mount can be used to attach pictures to display boards.
Is there a (temporary) spray mount which is also transparent which could
be used to stick the map to the plastic and hold whilst offering up to the
wall but allow the map to be removed undamaged when the time comes to
change the map?
Bonus if the clear plastic can be drawn on (e.g. for planning a route on
an OS map) and then wiped clean.
Cheers
Dave R
--
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box
Capitol
Apr 1, 2015, 6:53:02 AM4/1/15
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David wrote:
> We looked at having the maps framed but framing a decent sized map is
> framing expensive!
This is uk d-i-y!
> We looked at having the maps framed but framing a decent sized map is
> framing expensive!
Jeremy Nicoll - news posts
Apr 1, 2015, 7:07:21 AM4/1/15
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David <wib...@btintenet.com> wrote:
>Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>
>So; requirements.
>
>I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed) behind
>some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace with
>another.
How frequently are you going to change the map?
>Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>
>So; requirements.
>
>I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed) behind
>some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace with
>another.
Do the maps need to be used elsewhere for anything?
Do un-mounted ones need to be stored folded up?
I ask, because my approach would possibly be to glue the maps to sheets of
thick card or even hardboard, and hang those on hooks set in the wall. If
plastic is needed in front of the map I'd hang that on the same or maybe
different hooks, too.
If hardboard etc is impractical I'd also consider gluing a thinnish strip of
wood along the top and bottom edges of the map; that would allow them to be
stored rolled. The battens could still be hung on the wall.
You don't want to be using screws & rawlplugs if you need to change the map
at all often.
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Robin
Apr 1, 2015, 7:08:23 AM4/1/15
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David wrote:
> Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>
> So; requirements.
<snip>
> Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>
> So; requirements.
How about starting with a large clip frame? You can still DIY the
holes to screw it to the wall, rather than hanging it, to satisfy the
inner caveman :)
--
Robin
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Martin Brown
Apr 1, 2015, 7:15:27 AM4/1/15
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On 01/04/2015 11:14, David wrote:
> Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>
> So; requirements.
>
> I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed) behind
> some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace with
> another.
>
> I don't want to buy laminated maps and use Blu Tack.
>
> The wall I have in mind as first attempt has OSB behind the plaster board
> to make wall mounting stuff a bit easier.
>
> However I also want a solution which will work on normal plastered brick/
> block walls.
>
> My first thought is to buy a flat bit of plastic sheet (but which type?)
> and drill the corners to take screws which then screw into wall plugs.
> Probably mirror screws with the chrome tops to hide the screw behind.
>
> We looked at having the maps framed but framing a decent sized map is
> framing expensive!
>
> The biggest problem that I anticipate is flattening the map and holding it
> to the clear plastic whilst fitting it to the wall; I have an image of a
> lot of cursing and swearing as the map slips to the floor each time I try
> and fit it to the wall.
Static charge will be good enough as a temporary hold if you use 2mm
> Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>
> So; requirements.
>
> I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed) behind
> some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace with
> another.
>
> I don't want to buy laminated maps and use Blu Tack.
>
> The wall I have in mind as first attempt has OSB behind the plaster board
> to make wall mounting stuff a bit easier.
>
> However I also want a solution which will work on normal plastered brick/
> block walls.
>
> My first thought is to buy a flat bit of plastic sheet (but which type?)
> and drill the corners to take screws which then screw into wall plugs.
> Probably mirror screws with the chrome tops to hide the screw behind.
>
> We looked at having the maps framed but framing a decent sized map is
> framing expensive!
>
> The biggest problem that I anticipate is flattening the map and holding it
> to the clear plastic whilst fitting it to the wall; I have an image of a
> lot of cursing and swearing as the map slips to the floor each time I try
> and fit it to the wall.
clear acrylic sheet and rub it with the right sort of cloth. You might
even get away with thinner polyester film if the size permits.
>
> I know that spray mount can be used to attach pictures to display boards.
> Is there a (temporary) spray mount which is also transparent which could
> be used to stick the map to the plastic and hold whilst offering up to the
> wall but allow the map to be removed undamaged when the time comes to
> change the map?
Spray mount is fine on the reverse side but you will see it on face side
> I know that spray mount can be used to attach pictures to display boards.
> Is there a (temporary) spray mount which is also transparent which could
> be used to stick the map to the plastic and hold whilst offering up to the
> wall but allow the map to be removed undamaged when the time comes to
> change the map?
and parts with glue on will look different and be tacky forever.
>
> Bonus if the clear plastic can be drawn on (e.g. for planning a route on
> an OS map) and then wiped clean.
Thin acrylic sheet is probably your best bet.
> Bonus if the clear plastic can be drawn on (e.g. for planning a route on
> an OS map) and then wiped clean.
Small self adhesive Nd magnets and thinner steel shims on the corners
would be my method of choice for attaching it hard and in tension.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
David
Apr 1, 2015, 7:55:36 AM4/1/15
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On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 12:04:00 +0100, Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:
> David <wib...@btintenet.com> wrote:
>
>>Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>>
>>So; requirements.
>>
>>I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed) behind
>>some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace with
>>another.
>
> How frequently are you going to change the map?
>
> Do the maps need to be used elsewhere for anything?
>
> Do un-mounted ones need to be stored folded up?
>
> I ask, because my approach would possibly be to glue the maps to sheets
> of thick card or even hardboard, and hang those on hooks set in the
> wall. If plastic is needed in front of the map I'd hang that on the
> same or maybe different hooks, too.
>
> If hardboard etc is impractical I'd also consider gluing a thinnish
> strip of wood along the top and bottom edges of the map; that would
> allow them to be stored rolled. The battens could still be hung on the
> wall.
>
> You don't want to be using screws & rawlplugs if you need to change the
> map at all often.
The idea is to be able to store sheet maps (e.g.world) rolled up in the
> David <wib...@btintenet.com> wrote:
>
>>Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>>
>>So; requirements.
>>
>>I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed) behind
>>some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace with
>>another.
>
> How frequently are you going to change the map?
>
> Do the maps need to be used elsewhere for anything?
>
> Do un-mounted ones need to be stored folded up?
>
> I ask, because my approach would possibly be to glue the maps to sheets
> of thick card or even hardboard, and hang those on hooks set in the
> wall. If plastic is needed in front of the map I'd hang that on the
> same or maybe different hooks, too.
>
> If hardboard etc is impractical I'd also consider gluing a thinnish
> strip of wood along the top and bottom edges of the map; that would
> allow them to be stored rolled. The battens could still be hung on the
> wall.
>
> You don't want to be using screws & rawlplugs if you need to change the
> map at all often.
tube they came in.
For OS maps, I would like to be able to take them out and fold them up for
use outdoors.
I have no idea how frequently they will be changed - but the plan is to
make it easy and repeatable.
David
Apr 1, 2015, 7:58:48 AM4/1/15
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attaching the whole thing to the wall. I have a couple and they are very
strong when attached to screw heads.
I don't really want to attach anything permanently to the map, although I
suppose taping the corners to the back of the plastic could hold it in
place whilst fixing on the wall.
michael adams
Apr 1, 2015, 8:08:45 AM4/1/15
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"David" <wib...@btintenet.com> wrote in message news:co1unq...@mid.individual.net...
> The biggest problem that I anticipate is flattening the map and holding it
> to the clear plastic whilst fitting it to the wall; I have an image of a
> lot of cursing and swearing as the map slips to the floor each time I try
> and fit it to the wall.
>
You could possibly temporarily attach a batten to the bottom using low tack tape
> to the clear plastic whilst fitting it to the wall; I have an image of a
> lot of cursing and swearing as the map slips to the floor each time I try
> and fit it to the wall.
>
to keep it flat and use low tack tape again to temporarily to fix it at the top
while you adjust the position.
Low tack tape seems to have good shear(?) resistance to forces at a low
angle but peels off easily off paper with no damage at 90%. Around
the same strength as post it notes at a guess.
Years ago I bought a load of low tack duck masking tape from Poundland
but I'm not sure what's available nowadays.
michael adams
...
Capitol
Apr 1, 2015, 9:17:24 AM4/1/15
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David wrote:
> I don't really want to attach anything permanently to the map, although I
> suppose taping the corners to the back of the plastic could hold it in
> place whilst fixing on the wall.
Vacuum mount?
> I don't really want to attach anything permanently to the map, although I
> suppose taping the corners to the back of the plastic could hold it in
> place whilst fixing on the wall.
Nightjar .me.uk>
Apr 1, 2015, 11:54:46 AM4/1/15
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On 01/04/2015 11:14, David wrote:
> Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>
> So; requirements.
>
> I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed) behind
> some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace with
> another....
>
> So; requirements.
>
> I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed) behind
> some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace with
A fairly normal requirement for exhibition stands. e.g.
http://www.displaysense.co.uk/poster-and-snap-frames/
or, for something a little more decorative:
http://www.displaysuk.co.uk/products/perspex-acrylic-signs-poster-photo-frames-47/acrylic-photo-poster-frame-wall-mounted-with-stand-offs-477.aspx
If you want larger than A0 1249mm x 901mm you will have to search for
yourself, looking for poster frames or display stands
--
Colin Bignell
David
Apr 1, 2015, 1:02:03 PM4/1/15
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"Ooooffff!" at the £137.70 for the A0 size.
In general, the maps are big.
The first to hand is 1120 * 990 which is near as dammit A0.
The first one looks better at around £44.00.
Thanks
harryagain
Apr 1, 2015, 1:29:29 PM4/1/15
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Robert
Apr 1, 2015, 3:08:45 PM4/1/15
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On 01/04/2015 12:10, Robin wrote:
> David wrote:
>> Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>>
>> So; requirements.
> <snip>
>
> How about starting with a large clip frame? You can still DIY the
> holes to screw it to the wall, rather than hanging it, to satisfy the
> inner caveman :)
>
+1
> David wrote:
>> Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>>
>> So; requirements.
> <snip>
>
> How about starting with a large clip frame? You can still DIY the
> holes to screw it to the wall, rather than hanging it, to satisfy the
> inner caveman :)
>
a0 clip frames seem to in the £30-50 region.
I wouldnt make the map reusable - just buy another in a fold up format
for actual outdoor use. Far simpler.
newshound
Apr 1, 2015, 3:31:47 PM4/1/15
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On 01/04/2015 12:15, Martin Brown wrote:
> On 01/04/2015 11:14, David wrote:
>> Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
> On 01/04/2015 11:14, David wrote:
>> Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>> Bonus if the clear plastic can be drawn on (e.g. for planning a route on
>> an OS map) and then wiped clean.
>
> Thin acrylic sheet is probably your best bet.
>
Last time I looked, polycarbonate was significantly cheaper than
>> an OS map) and then wiped clean.
>
> Thin acrylic sheet is probably your best bet.
>
acrylic, and I think the "static" properties are similar. Not sure if
whiteboard marker pens would be OK on either.
Nightjar .me.uk>
Apr 1, 2015, 8:00:46 PM4/1/15
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On 01/04/2015 18:02, David wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 16:54:37 +0100, Nightjar <"cpb"@ wrote:
>
>> On 01/04/2015 11:14, David wrote:
>>> Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>>>
>>> So; requirements.
>>>
>>> I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed)
>>> behind some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace
>>> with another....
>>
>> A fairly normal requirement for exhibition stands. e.g.
>>
>> http://www.displaysense.co.uk/poster-and-snap-frames/
>>
>> or, for something a little more decorative:
>>
>> http://www.displaysuk.co.uk/products/perspex-acrylic-signs-poster-photo-
> frames-47/acrylic-photo-poster-frame-wall-mounted-with-stand-offs-477.aspx
>>
>> If you want larger than A0 1249mm x 901mm you will have to search for
>> yourself, looking for poster frames or display stands
>
> Just looked at the second one, thought they looked interesting, then went
> "Ooooffff!" at the £137.70 for the A0 size.
Equipping a good looking exhibition stand is not a cheap exercise.
> On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 16:54:37 +0100, Nightjar <"cpb"@ wrote:
>
>> On 01/04/2015 11:14, David wrote:
>>> Google just tries to sell me maps to mount on a wall.
>>>
>>> So; requirements.
>>>
>>> I can mount a map flat on the wall (OS or purpose bought/printed)
>>> behind some kind of clear plastic and easily remove the map and replace
>>> with another....
>>
>> A fairly normal requirement for exhibition stands. e.g.
>>
>> http://www.displaysense.co.uk/poster-and-snap-frames/
>>
>> or, for something a little more decorative:
>>
>> http://www.displaysuk.co.uk/products/perspex-acrylic-signs-poster-photo-
> frames-47/acrylic-photo-poster-frame-wall-mounted-with-stand-offs-477.aspx
>>
>> If you want larger than A0 1249mm x 901mm you will have to search for
>> yourself, looking for poster frames or display stands
>
> Just looked at the second one, thought they looked interesting, then went
> "Ooooffff!" at the £137.70 for the A0 size.
> In general, the maps are big.
> The first to hand is 1120 * 990 which is near as dammit A0.
>
> The first one looks better at around £44.00.
a quick search.
--
Colin Bignell
News
Apr 2, 2015, 4:38:10 AM4/2/15
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In message <co24rk...@mid.individual.net>, David
<wib...@btintenet.com> writes
wood (batten, painted/stained/varnished) permanently fixed to the wall,
to take the weight of the map and plastic cover? Suitably placed screws
flush with the wall, map against the wall, plastic against the map and
neo magnets holding map and plastic in place, without needing to support
the weight of the plastic.
The magnets could be free, or glued to the plastic. Installation of a
map would be straightforward - rest plastic on batten at 45 degrees,
slip map behind plastic, hold in place with fingertips and raise to
vertical, allowing magnets to snap to screw heads. The map cover may
need to be carefully folded behind map.
--
Graeme
<wib...@btintenet.com> writes
>
>I like the idea of the magnets - but perhaps in a larger format for
>attaching the whole thing to the wall. I have a couple and they are very
>strong when attached to screw heads.
Given that there will always be a map on the wall, how about a strip of
>I like the idea of the magnets - but perhaps in a larger format for
>attaching the whole thing to the wall. I have a couple and they are very
>strong when attached to screw heads.
wood (batten, painted/stained/varnished) permanently fixed to the wall,
to take the weight of the map and plastic cover? Suitably placed screws
flush with the wall, map against the wall, plastic against the map and
neo magnets holding map and plastic in place, without needing to support
the weight of the plastic.
The magnets could be free, or glued to the plastic. Installation of a
map would be straightforward - rest plastic on batten at 45 degrees,
slip map behind plastic, hold in place with fingertips and raise to
vertical, allowing magnets to snap to screw heads. The map cover may
need to be carefully folded behind map.
--
Graeme
Martin Brown
Apr 2, 2015, 4:46:23 AM4/2/15
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On 02/04/2015 09:38, News wrote:
> In message <co24rk...@mid.individual.net>, David
> <wib...@btintenet.com> writes
>>
>> I like the idea of the magnets - but perhaps in a larger format for
>> attaching the whole thing to the wall. I have a couple and they are very
>> strong when attached to screw heads.
>
> Given that there will always be a map on the wall, how about a strip of
> wood (batten, painted/stained/varnished) permanently fixed to the wall,
> to take the weight of the map and plastic cover? Suitably placed screws
> flush with the wall, map against the wall, plastic against the map and
> neo magnets holding map and plastic in place, without needing to support
> the weight of the plastic.
Yes. You would need something to take the weight of the plastic sheet.
> In message <co24rk...@mid.individual.net>, David
> <wib...@btintenet.com> writes
>>
>> I like the idea of the magnets - but perhaps in a larger format for
>> attaching the whole thing to the wall. I have a couple and they are very
>> strong when attached to screw heads.
>
> Given that there will always be a map on the wall, how about a strip of
> wood (batten, painted/stained/varnished) permanently fixed to the wall,
> to take the weight of the map and plastic cover? Suitably placed screws
> flush with the wall, map against the wall, plastic against the map and
> neo magnets holding map and plastic in place, without needing to support
> the weight of the plastic.
Otherwise it will slowly slide down the wall when you try to write on
it. I had a similar problem with a white board magnetically attached to
a fridge. It was fine until it vibrated then dynamic friction kicked in.
>
> The magnets could be free, or glued to the plastic. Installation of a
> map would be straightforward - rest plastic on batten at 45 degrees,
> slip map behind plastic, hold in place with fingertips and raise to
> vertical, allowing magnets to snap to screw heads. The map cover may
> need to be carefully folded behind map.
Self adhesive thin plate chrome plated Nd magnets are fairly easily
> The magnets could be free, or glued to the plastic. Installation of a
> map would be straightforward - rest plastic on batten at 45 degrees,
> slip map behind plastic, hold in place with fingertips and raise to
> vertical, allowing magnets to snap to screw heads. The map cover may
> need to be carefully folded behind map.
available and have a decent grab factor to mild steel screws. You can
use one on a string to find hidden steel screws in plasterboard.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
David
Apr 2, 2015, 6:51:26 AM4/2/15
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Requirements capture.
David
Apr 2, 2015, 6:57:09 AM4/2/15
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I'm slowly moving towards having a backing board and a plastic sheet with
the map clamped between them.
Possibly 3-5mm MDF and 2mm polycarbonate.
The MDF backing could be painted to match the wall.
Oh, and I never said there would always be a map on the wall :-)
Theo Markettos
Apr 2, 2015, 7:43:49 AM4/2/15
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newshound <news...@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote:
> Last time I looked, polycarbonate was significantly cheaper than
> acrylic, and I think the "static" properties are similar. Not sure if
> whiteboard marker pens would be OK on either.
Make sure whatever you get is UV safe, otherwise it'll gradually turn
> Last time I looked, polycarbonate was significantly cheaper than
> acrylic, and I think the "static" properties are similar. Not sure if
> whiteboard marker pens would be OK on either.
yellow.
Drywipe pens would probably be OK, the other thing is if the board gets
dusty they can scratch it with the dust.
Theo
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