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Colin Wilson

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Mar 7, 2009, 4:14:48 PM3/7/09
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Just bought a house, and in the near-ish future i'll need to replace
the gutter boards and soffits (many of the air vents are currently
missing / damaged, as well as there being some minor rot to the
woodwork)

Most of the house is probably manageable, but how the hell do you work
above a conservatory without having to call someone in at hellish
expense with masses of scaffolding ?

Adrian

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Mar 7, 2009, 4:19:29 PM3/7/09
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HI Colin

Denends on what sort of a head you have for heights - but the local hire
place out here (South-West Ireland) will rent you a trailer with a
'cherry-picker' (hydraulic platform on the end of a long arm) mounted on
it.

Park the beast close up against the conservatory, put the legs down and
off you go (allegedly)...

Ask your local hire shop ..?

Adrian

Andrew Gabriel

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Mar 7, 2009, 4:54:19 PM3/7/09
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In article <MPG.241cf4215...@news.motzarella.org>,

I was surprised how cheap scaffolding was in the peak of the
economic boom. I rather suspect it might be even cheaper now.
I needed to replace some of the roof and had it erected for
that. Also took the opportunity to replace facias, guttering,
bottom strip of felt, and fit felt support trays.
All a complete doddle with the scaffolding there.

I need to do some facias and guttering on another side, and
I'll probably get scaffolding again. This would allow me to
go further and also replace the bottom strip of felt, and
fit felt support trays on that side too.

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Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Cicero

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Mar 7, 2009, 5:12:35 PM3/7/09
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Use a tower, a few lengths of scaffolding pole and an assortment of clips:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x223/coldpics/DSCI0011.jpg

Cic.

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Colin Wilson

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Mar 7, 2009, 5:39:18 PM3/7/09
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> Use a tower, a few lengths of scaffolding pole and an assortment of clips:
> http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x223/coldpics/DSCI0011.jpg

I'm not sure i'd be able to do it without a tower both sides, and
laying boards across between the two :-}

Colin Wilson

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Mar 7, 2009, 5:40:40 PM3/7/09
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> Denends on what sort of a head you have for heights - but the local hire
> place out here (South-West Ireland) will rent you a trailer with a
> 'cherry-picker' (hydraulic platform on the end of a long arm) mounted on
> it.

I don't think the access gap between the houses would allow for a
cherry picker :-(

Bruce

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Mar 7, 2009, 5:54:02 PM3/7/09
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Colin Wilson <REMOVEEVERYTHI...@phoenixbbsZEROSPAM.co.uk>
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I fixed a couple of steel brackets to the wall which were long enough to
support two scaffold boards. I only needed two brackets as the
conservatory is seven feet wide; the brackets were just over four feet
apart.

When I needed to work at height I placed the scaffold boards on the
brackets and tied them down, then gained access to the resulting
platform with an extending ladder. When on the platform I hooked a
harness on to a safety line secured to the wall with Rawlbolts.


pete

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Mar 7, 2009, 6:25:24 PM3/7/09
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Depends on the shape of the conservatory and what the roof is made of.
With mine, it's lean-to at the back of the house, with a polycarbonate
roof. I have in the past used crawling boards to distribute the weight
of people & things on the conservatory roof, while working above it.

If the poly's old, it might have gone brittle, but if so then it probably
needs changing as part of the work.

chris French

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Mar 7, 2009, 6:53:24 PM3/7/09
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In message <MPG.241d0846c...@news.motzarella.org>, Colin
Wilson <REMOVEEVERYTHI...@phoenixbbsZEROSPAM.co.uk> writes

IIRC You can get smaller cherry pickers that will go through a normal
sized doorway
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Chris French

Colin Wilson

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Mar 8, 2009, 9:30:57 AM3/8/09
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> >I don't think the access gap between the houses would allow for a
> >cherry picker :-(
> IIRC You can get smaller cherry pickers that will go through a normal
> sized doorway

Interesting - thanks :-)

Colin Wilson

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Mar 8, 2009, 9:31:58 AM3/8/09
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> I fixed a couple of steel brackets to the wall which were long enough to
> support two scaffold boards. I only needed two brackets as the
> conservatory is seven feet wide; the brackets were just over four feet
> apart.
> When I needed to work at height I placed the scaffold boards on the
> brackets and tied them down, then gained access to the resulting
> platform with an extending ladder. When on the platform I hooked a
> harness on to a safety line secured to the wall with Rawlbolts.

I like that idea - might be worth a go !

Colin Wilson

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Mar 8, 2009, 9:33:31 AM3/8/09
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> Depends on the shape of the conservatory and what the roof is made of.
> With mine, it's lean-to at the back of the house, with a polycarbonate
> roof. I have in the past used crawling boards to distribute the weight
> of people & things on the conservatory roof, while working above it.

Not sure what shape you'd describe it as - it protrudes from the back
of the house by about 8 feet, and has a corner lopped off for the
doors to the rear.

> If the poly's old, it might have gone brittle, but if so then it probably
> needs changing as part of the work.

Not sure of the age, it was a repossession :-}

Nige Danton

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Mar 8, 2009, 11:11:35 AM3/8/09
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On Mar 8, 8:31 pm, Colin Wilson
<REMOVEEVERYTHINGBUTnewsgr...@phoenixbbsZEROSPAM.co.uk> wrote:

If you have access either side of the conservatory then ask for
painters cripples at your local hire shop. They are steel brackets
that fasten to a pair of ladders and you put scaffold boards between
them.

--
Nige Danton

Andy Burns

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Mar 8, 2009, 11:14:54 AM3/8/09
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Nige Danton wrote:

> If you have access either side of the conservatory then ask for
> painters cripples at your local hire shop.

If you ask for Staging Brackets they're less likely to say "huh?"

Alang

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Mar 8, 2009, 11:24:26 AM3/8/09
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pete

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Mar 8, 2009, 11:35:17 AM3/8/09
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The crucial thing is that it isn't glass.

My roof looks a little like the one in this picture:
http://www.flitwickglass.co.uk/lean_t16.jpg
as opposed to the pitched roof in this picture
http://www.flitwickglass.co.uk/Victor2.jpg

The polycarbonate sheets are bolted to a large beam on the outside wall, so
there's sufficient load-bearing to support a man's weight - provided that
weight is distributed across a couple of rafters and that it is close to the
wall of the house - not in the middle of the conservatory roof. Therefore
it isn't applied directly to the roofing material. So long as the poly isn't
damaged or cracks under the load, it's possible (with care) to walk on
the crawling boards, so you don't need scaffolding.

PCPaul

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Mar 8, 2009, 12:24:18 PM3/8/09
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Nice picture... as if working at heights wasn't dangerous enough!

John

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Mar 8, 2009, 12:28:27 PM3/8/09
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"Nige Danton" <Nige....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 8, 8:31 pm, Colin Wilson
<REMOVEEVERYTHINGBUTnewsgr...@phoenixbbsZEROSPAM.co.uk> wrote:

If you have access either side of the conservatory then ask for
painters cripples at your local hire shop.

Is that politically correct in this day and age ;-)

John


Grimly Curmudgeon

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Mar 8, 2009, 1:59:23 PM3/8/09
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Colin Wilson
<REMOVEEVERYTHI...@phoenixbbsZEROSPAM.co.uk> saying something
like:

>Most of the house is probably manageable, but how the hell do you work
>above a conservatory without having to call someone in at hellish
>expense with masses of scaffolding ?

Use one of these...
http://www.systems4business.co.nz/images1003/Picture1.jpg

Alang

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Mar 8, 2009, 2:00:24 PM3/8/09
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In that picture it isn't the working at height it's the coming down to
ground that would be the problem

Colin Wilson

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Mar 10, 2009, 6:52:39 PM3/10/09
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> as opposed to the pitched roof in this picture
> http://www.flitwickglass.co.uk/Victor2.jpg

Ahh, the one we have is the pitched roof variant, and it pretty much
looks like the right hand end as shown in the picture with the door on
the angle at the end.

The staging brackets sound useful though !

Colin Wilson

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Mar 10, 2009, 6:53:10 PM3/10/09
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