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David Chapman
Oct 18, 2012, 5:23:09 PM10/18/12
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We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
(toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
Fortunately the outer of the (was) double-glazed roofing panel is
intact so the conservatory is still 'waterproof' but I'm very puzzled
about why this could suddenly happen for no apparent reason more than
two years after completion.
I looked carefully to see if there are any structural cracks in the
structure of the conservatory that could account for the problem but
could see nothing.
Has anyone had any experience of this sort of problem with sealed
glazing panels so long after installation and is able to offer any
suggestions about why it might have happened?
Fortunately we have a 10 year warranty on the conservatory and a
replacement sealed unit is due to be fitted during the next couple of
weeks.
Any thoughts anyone?
TIA - Dave.
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Owain
Oct 18, 2012, 5:27:31 PM10/18/12
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On Oct 18, 10:23 pm, David Chapman wrote:
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass
Toughened glass does that sometimes. To do with the internal stresses
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass
caused by heating it to toughen it.
Owain
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Oct 18, 2012, 7:14:19 PM10/18/12
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Bill Wright
Oct 18, 2012, 8:18:23 PM10/18/12
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David Chapman wrote:
>
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
>
> Fortunately the outer of the (was) double-glazed roofing panel is
> intact so the conservatory is still 'waterproof' but I'm very puzzled
> about why this could suddenly happen for no apparent reason more than
> two years after completion.
Do you have teenagers?
>
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
>
> Fortunately the outer of the (was) double-glazed roofing panel is
> intact so the conservatory is still 'waterproof' but I'm very puzzled
> about why this could suddenly happen for no apparent reason more than
> two years after completion.
Bill
John Rumm
Oct 18, 2012, 8:50:43 PM10/18/12
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On 18/10/2012 22:23, David Chapman wrote:
>
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had
> absolutely no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that
> the inside (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels
> had 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass
> granules.
>
> Fortunately the outer of the (was) double-glazed roofing panel is
> intact so the conservatory is still 'waterproof' but I'm very puzzled
> about why this could suddenly happen for no apparent reason more than
> two years after completion.
>
> I looked carefully to see if there are any structural cracks in the
> structure of the conservatory that could account for the problem but
> could see nothing.
>
> Has anyone had any experience of this sort of problem with sealed
> glazing panels so long after installation and is able to offer any
> suggestions about why it might have happened?
>
> Fortunately we have a 10 year warranty on the conservatory and a
> replacement sealed unit is due to be fitted during the next couple of
> weeks.
>
> Any thoughts anyone?
Sometimes when a DG unit gets struck by something the reverse side of
>
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had
> absolutely no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that
> the inside (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels
> had 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass
> granules.
>
> Fortunately the outer of the (was) double-glazed roofing panel is
> intact so the conservatory is still 'waterproof' but I'm very puzzled
> about why this could suddenly happen for no apparent reason more than
> two years after completion.
>
> I looked carefully to see if there are any structural cracks in the
> structure of the conservatory that could account for the problem but
> could see nothing.
>
> Has anyone had any experience of this sort of problem with sealed
> glazing panels so long after installation and is able to offer any
> suggestions about why it might have happened?
>
> Fortunately we have a 10 year warranty on the conservatory and a
> replacement sealed unit is due to be fitted during the next couple of
> weeks.
>
> Any thoughts anyone?
the panel can fail rather than the one that got hit. With conservatory
roof panels it only takes a bird dropping something on it from a height.
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David Chapman
Oct 19, 2012, 3:49:32 AM10/19/12
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>Do you have teenagers?
No, they quit our nest a LONG time ago.
Tim Watts
Oct 19, 2012, 4:38:52 AM10/19/12
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David Chapman wrote:
>
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
>
> Fortunately the outer of the (was) double-glazed roofing panel is
> intact so the conservatory is still 'waterproof' but I'm very puzzled
> about why this could suddenly happen for no apparent reason more than
> two years after completion.
>
> I looked carefully to see if there are any structural cracks in the
> structure of the conservatory that could account for the problem but
> could see nothing.
>
> Has anyone had any experience of this sort of problem with sealed
> glazing panels so long after installation and is able to offer any
> suggestions about why it might have happened?
>
> Fortunately we have a 10 year warranty on the conservatory and a
> replacement sealed unit is due to be fitted during the next couple of
> weeks.
>
Possible glass fault? I had a new DG panel (not toughended) sprout a crack
>
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
>
> Fortunately the outer of the (was) double-glazed roofing panel is
> intact so the conservatory is still 'waterproof' but I'm very puzzled
> about why this could suddenly happen for no apparent reason more than
> two years after completion.
>
> I looked carefully to see if there are any structural cracks in the
> structure of the conservatory that could account for the problem but
> could see nothing.
>
> Has anyone had any experience of this sort of problem with sealed
> glazing panels so long after installation and is able to offer any
> suggestions about why it might have happened?
>
> Fortunately we have a 10 year warranty on the conservatory and a
> replacement sealed unit is due to be fitted during the next couple of
> weeks.
>
out of nowhere about a year down the line.
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Andy Burns
Oct 19, 2012, 4:41:28 AM10/19/12
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Tim Watts wrote:
> David Chapman wrote:
>
>> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
>> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
>
just happened one evening when they were in the house, nobody near it ...
> David Chapman wrote:
>
>> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
>> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
>
> Possible glass fault? I had a new DG panel (not toughended) sprout a crack
> out of nowhere about a year down the line.
Next door neighbour had a side-panel in their door "go" after 20+ years,
> out of nowhere about a year down the line.
just happened one evening when they were in the house, nobody near it ...
Stephen Mawson
Oct 19, 2012, 5:09:19 AM10/19/12
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"David Chapman" <da...@minda.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
snip
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
>
> > TIA - Dave.
> --
> David C.Chapman - (dcch...@minda.co.uk)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
I had exactly the same thing with a conservatory roof panel about 20 years
> > TIA - Dave.
> --
> David C.Chapman - (dcch...@minda.co.uk)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
old. The insurance company wouldn't cover it because they said it was due to
"atmospheric conditions" (temperature) causing the panel to expand against a
glazing bar and subject itself to stress. Needless to say I changed insurers
at the next renewal.
Stephen
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kenma...@gmail.com
Sep 13, 2013, 9:07:42 AM9/13/13
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Hi Dave,
I have just had the same problem only I have had 2 roof panels and 1 side glass shatter 2 1/2 years after completion, with no apparent reason.
Would love to discuss this with you.
Please call 01189 868662
I have just had the same problem only I have had 2 roof panels and 1 side glass shatter 2 1/2 years after completion, with no apparent reason.
Would love to discuss this with you.
Please call 01189 868662
Jim K
Sep 14, 2013, 7:12:15 AM9/14/13
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Jim K
RobertL
Sep 16, 2013, 6:29:55 AM9/16/13
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On Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:23:13 PM UTC+1, David Chapman wrote:
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
It can be caused by subsidence gradually twisting the conservatory roof and putting an increasing stress on the glass until one day a pane goes 'pop'.
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
Robert
Tony Bryer
Sep 16, 2013, 8:16:27 AM9/16/13
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 06:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Kenma...@gmail.com wrote :
> I have just had the same problem only I have had 2 roof panels and 1
> side glass shatter 2 1/2 years after completion, with no apparent reason.
> Would love to discuss this with you.
Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontaneous_glass_breakage
> I have just had the same problem only I have had 2 roof panels and 1
> side glass shatter 2 1/2 years after completion, with no apparent reason.
> Would love to discuss this with you.
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Melbourne, Australia www.greentram.com
Frank
Sep 14, 2015, 9:44:04 AM9/14/15
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replying to David Chapman , Frank wrote:
me. We are under a 10-year guarantee so that was OK but I was very
concerned that my grandchildren might have been playing in there at the
time. The company concerned was defensive when I sought compensation for
distress and inconvenience (it took over a month to check and put right),
implying (I think) that this does not happen without some kind of impact.
The weather had been extremely hot that day so I imagine thermal stress
could have been the cause. Clearly it can, and does, happen.
--
> dave wrote:
>
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
> Fortunately the outer of the (was) double-glazed roofing panel is
> intact so the conservatory is still 'waterproof' but I'm very puzzled
> about why this could suddenly happen for no apparent reason more than
> two years after completion.
> I looked carefully to see if there are any structural cracks in the
> structure of the conservatory that could account for the problem but
> could see nothing.
> Has anyone had any experience of this sort of problem with sealed
> glazing panels so long after installation and is able to offer any
> suggestions about why it might have happened?
> Fortunately we have a 10 year warranty on the conservatory and a
> replacement sealed unit is due to be fitted during the next couple of
> weeks.
> Any thoughts anyone?
> TIA - Dave.
I could have written this post since exactly the same thing happened to
>
> We had a conservatory built around 2 years ago and have had absolutely
> no problems with it until the other morning when I saw that the inside
> (toughened) glass of one of the double-glazed roofing panels had
> 'exploded' during the night and the floor was covered in glass granules.
> Fortunately the outer of the (was) double-glazed roofing panel is
> intact so the conservatory is still 'waterproof' but I'm very puzzled
> about why this could suddenly happen for no apparent reason more than
> two years after completion.
> I looked carefully to see if there are any structural cracks in the
> structure of the conservatory that could account for the problem but
> could see nothing.
> Has anyone had any experience of this sort of problem with sealed
> glazing panels so long after installation and is able to offer any
> suggestions about why it might have happened?
> Fortunately we have a 10 year warranty on the conservatory and a
> replacement sealed unit is due to be fitted during the next couple of
> weeks.
> Any thoughts anyone?
> TIA - Dave.
me. We are under a 10-year guarantee so that was OK but I was very
concerned that my grandchildren might have been playing in there at the
time. The company concerned was defensive when I sought compensation for
distress and inconvenience (it took over a month to check and put right),
implying (I think) that this does not happen without some kind of impact.
The weather had been extremely hot that day so I imagine thermal stress
could have been the cause. Clearly it can, and does, happen.
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Brian-Gaff
Sep 14, 2015, 10:19:15 AM9/14/15
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Its usually a chip like you get in windscreens that due to vibration or
other effect suddenly breaches the toughened outer layer and the rest just
falls to bits. it happened on the inside pane of a door in a room we rent a
couple of years ago. We think some kids kicking a ball might have finished
it off. the outer pane was untouched though, which does seem a little
peculiar.
Brian
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other effect suddenly breaches the toughened outer layer and the rest just
falls to bits. it happened on the inside pane of a door in a room we rent a
couple of years ago. We think some kids kicking a ball might have finished
it off. the outer pane was untouched though, which does seem a little
peculiar.
Brian
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JUlia Burnapp
Aug 13, 2016, 8:14:03 PM8/13/16
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replying to Owain, JUlia Burnapp wrote:
Not sure we are having problems with shattered glass three now
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Not sure we are having problems with shattered glass three now
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tabb...@gmail.com
Aug 14, 2016, 5:40:35 AM8/14/16
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On Sunday, 14 August 2016 01:14:03 UTC+1, JUlia Burnapp wrote:
> replying to Owain, JUlia Burnapp wrote:
> Not sure we are having problems with shattered glass three now
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub
> replying to Owain, JUlia Burnapp wrote:
> Not sure we are having problems with shattered glass three now
Brian Gaff
Aug 14, 2016, 5:46:01 AM8/14/16
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How old is this one I wonder?
Brian
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Harry Bloomfield
Aug 14, 2016, 5:49:07 AM8/14/16
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Brian Gaff explained :
> How old is this one I wonder?
> Brian
October 18, 2012, 9:23 pm
> Brian
bakerdave
Aug 23, 2016, 6:44:03 PM8/23/16
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replying to Huge, bakerdave wrote:
Just had an internal pane in the roof of my 2 year old conservatory explode
spontaneously HOWEVER the manufacturer - MPN Windows -are claiming that the
glass is not guaranteed for ANY breakages! however occurring!! I'm trying to
get hold of the guarantors Network VEKA to establish their view on the
issue..Seems ludicrous to me that they can opt out like this!
Just had an internal pane in the roof of my 2 year old conservatory explode
spontaneously HOWEVER the manufacturer - MPN Windows -are claiming that the
glass is not guaranteed for ANY breakages! however occurring!! I'm trying to
get hold of the guarantors Network VEKA to establish their view on the
issue..Seems ludicrous to me that they can opt out like this!
tabb...@gmail.com
Aug 25, 2016, 5:03:49 AM8/25/16
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On Tuesday, 23 August 2016 23:44:03 UTC+1, bakerdave wrote:
> replying to Huge, bakerdave wrote:
> Just had an internal pane in the roof of my 2 year old conservatory explode
> spontaneously HOWEVER the manufacturer - MPN Windows -are claiming that the
> glass is not guaranteed for ANY breakages! however occurring!! I'm trying to
> get hold of the guarantors Network VEKA to establish their view on the
> issue..Seems ludicrous to me that they can opt out like this!
It would be impractical if they couldn't.
> replying to Huge, bakerdave wrote:
> Just had an internal pane in the roof of my 2 year old conservatory explode
> spontaneously HOWEVER the manufacturer - MPN Windows -are claiming that the
> glass is not guaranteed for ANY breakages! however occurring!! I'm trying to
> get hold of the guarantors Network VEKA to establish their view on the
> issue..Seems ludicrous to me that they can opt out like this!
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub
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Brian
Jun 8, 2017, 2:14:06 PM6/8/17
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replying to David Chapman, Brian wrote:
*Had exactly the same problem*. Sitting there minding my own business when
there was a loud bang and glass pieces were showering onto the floor. The
outer pane was still intact fortunately as it rained the next day. Waiting for
a replacement.
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*Had exactly the same problem*. Sitting there minding my own business when
there was a loud bang and glass pieces were showering onto the floor. The
outer pane was still intact fortunately as it rained the next day. Waiting for
a replacement.
--
for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy/double-glazed-conservatory-glass-shattered-843628-.htm
bert
Jun 8, 2017, 3:26:48 PM6/8/17
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In article <Ltg_A.339474$rY1.2...@fx45.am4>, Brian
<caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com> writes
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bert
<caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com> writes
>replying to David Chapman, Brian wrote:
>*Had exactly the same problem*. Sitting there minding my own business when
>there was a loud bang and glass pieces were showering onto the floor. The
>outer pane was still intact fortunately as it rained the next day. Waiting for
>a replacement.
>
I've had that happen too. Inner pane so no bird strike or anything.
>*Had exactly the same problem*. Sitting there minding my own business when
>there was a loud bang and glass pieces were showering onto the floor. The
>outer pane was still intact fortunately as it rained the next day. Waiting for
>a replacement.
>
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bert
DerbyBorn
Jun 8, 2017, 3:51:00 PM6/8/17
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Pressure change in the gap due to weather change.
Roger Hayter
Jun 8, 2017, 7:44:02 PM6/8/17
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Huge <Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2017-06-08, DerbyBorn <Some...@Nearhome.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Pressure change in the gap due to weather change.
>
> https://failures.wikispaces.com/Glass+Breakage+-+Nickel+Sulfide+Inclusions
I hope that doesn't mean all the other panels in my conservatory are
going to spontaneously craze!
Edit: having read the article, it probably doesn't.
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Roger Hayter
> On 2017-06-08, DerbyBorn <Some...@Nearhome.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Pressure change in the gap due to weather change.
>
I hope that doesn't mean all the other panels in my conservatory are
going to spontaneously craze!
Edit: having read the article, it probably doesn't.
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Roger Hayter
Fredxxx
Jun 8, 2017, 8:00:47 PM6/8/17
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On 08/06/2017 19:14, Brian wrote:
> replying to David Chapman, Brian wrote: *Had exactly the same
> problem*. Sitting there minding my own business when there was a loud
> bang and glass pieces were showering onto the floor. The outer pane
> was still intact fortunately as it rained the next day. Waiting for a
> replacement.
This might assist you with posting to a newsgroup, albeit through a website:
> replying to David Chapman, Brian wrote: *Had exactly the same
> problem*. Sitting there minding my own business when there was a loud
> bang and glass pieces were showering onto the floor. The outer pane
> was still intact fortunately as it rained the next day. Waiting for a
> replacement.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855
- If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
enough text of the original to give a context.
It will be a true miracle if 'Brian', assuming he's a real person, that
he actually replies to this thread!
Its a common theme to see just first names from the 'dark side'.
Terry
Dec 14, 2017, 8:44:08 AM12/14/17
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replying to David Chapman, Terry wrote:
Dave, don’t know if I can still reach you, did the installers cover the cost
of replacement under warranty. Just paid out for the same problem 4yrs.
Dave, don’t know if I can still reach you, did the installers cover the cost
of replacement under warranty. Just paid out for the same problem 4yrs.
tabb...@gmail.com
Dec 14, 2017, 4:30:43 PM12/14/17
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On Thursday, 14 December 2017 13:44:08 UTC, Terry wrote:
> replying to David Chapman, Terry wrote:
> Dave, don’t know if I can still reach you, did the installers cover the cost
> of replacement under warranty. Just paid out for the same problem 4yrs.
Hey you folks are improving, that post was from only 5 years ago.
> replying to David Chapman, Terry wrote:
> Dave, don’t know if I can still reach you, did the installers cover the cost
> of replacement under warranty. Just paid out for the same problem 4yrs.
NT
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