Gloss paint odour
David Pearson
paint? Both the initial solvent smell and the lingering 'new paint' smell make
me feel sick and I'm part way through a major re-decorating programme :-(
Dave
--
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new."
- Albert Einstein
Max Bone
>Does anybody have a good method of getting rid of the smell from new gloss
>paint? Both the initial solvent smell and the lingering 'new paint' smell make
>me feel sick and I'm part way through a major re-decorating programme :-(
You can buy an additive which will mask the smell... although I can't
remember its name... I will have a look for it...
Otherwise you could move onto water-borne paints, instead of traditional
alkyd solvent-borne finishes.
regards
--
Max Bone
Stuart Grant
> paint?
>
Stuart Grant
Dr Bilge
Max Bone <m...@maxmaxmax.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> David Pearson <d...@medphysics.leeds.ac.uk> wrote
> >Does anybody have a good method of getting rid of the smell from new
gloss
make
> >me feel sick and I'm part way through a major re-decorating programme :-(
>
> You can buy an additive which will mask the smell... although I can't
> remember its name... I will have a look for it...
>
> Otherwise you could move onto water-borne paints, instead of traditional
> alkyd solvent-borne finishes.
>
My only experience of water based gloss paints was that they provided much
poorer "workability", than solvent based, slightly worse opacity (covering
power), and in addition it gave off a rather vomit like smell as it dried -
IMHO worse than the smell from solvent based paints. Also, the "it'll wash
out in water" claim doesn't work anything like as well as it does for
emulsions, for reasons that I can't explain, but which I suspect centre
around the rather "sticky" nature needed for a gloss finish.
Having said that, if you really do have a problem with solvent smells then
water based paints may be worth a try.
I shan't voluntarily be using water based paint again!
Bilge
Richard Gethin
<d...@medphysics.leeds.ac.uk> writes
>Does anybody have a good method of getting rid of the smell from new gloss
>paint? Both the initial solvent smell and the lingering 'new paint' smell make
>me feel sick and I'm part way through a major re-decorating programme :-(
>
An aunt of mine recommends cutting an onion in halves and leaving that
in the room you are painting. HTIM
--
Richard Gethin
Tony Polson
<a...@aands.freeserve.co.ewekay> wrote:
>My only experience of water based gloss paints was that they provided much
>poorer "workability", than solvent based, slightly worse opacity (covering
>power), and in addition it gave off a rather vomit like smell as it dried -
>IMHO worse than the smell from solvent based paints. Also, the "it'll wash
>out in water" claim doesn't work anything like as well as it does for
>emulsions, for reasons that I can't explain, but which I suspect centre
>around the rather "sticky" nature needed for a gloss finish.
I recently tried B&Q's own brand water-based satin finish and was very
pleased with the result. It had plenty of covering power and dried to a
good, even finish. One coat of magnolia over two coats of B&Q
water-based primer (while) covered dark mahogany tongue-and-groove
panelling just a treat.
I've used Dulux water-based gloss before, and was disappointed with the
finish. It just seemed to dry too quickly, certainly before the brush
marks evened out. The B&Q took longer to dry, so it dried to a smoother
finish.
>Having said that, if you really do have a problem with solvent smells then
>water based paints may be worth a try.
>I shan't voluntarily be using water based paint again!
I was hesitant, but the job was in my wife's shop and we didn't want
paint odour - she sells confectionery and any smell would put the
punters off. I'm glad I chose the B&Q brand - even though I'm by no
means a B&Q fan and buy from Screwfix or local *real* builders'
merchants whenever practicable.
--
Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK
Dr Bilge
Tony Polson <news....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:40:12 -0000, in uk.d-i-y "Dr Bilge"
> <a...@aands.freeserve.co.ewekay> wrote:
> I recently tried B&Q's own brand water-based satin finish and was very
> pleased with the result. It had plenty of covering power and dried to a
> good, even finish. One coat of magnolia over two coats of B&Q
> water-based primer (while) covered dark mahogany tongue-and-groove
> panelling just a treat.
>
> I've used Dulux water-based gloss before, and was disappointed with the
> finish. It just seemed to dry too quickly, certainly before the brush
> marks evened out. The B&Q took longer to dry, so it dried to a smoother
> finish.
>
Wonder if there is something in the gloss paints to plasticise it, and that
it responsible for the poor workability and the (subjective) nasty smell?
Anyone else had good or bad experience of water based gloss finishes?
Bilge
Jon Beaumont
<news....@btinternet.com> writes
> I'm glad I chose the B&Q brand - even though I'm by no
>means a B&Q fan and buy from Screwfix or local *real* builders'
>merchants whenever practicable.
>
>--
>Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK
I'm sure I read somewhere recently that the Kingfisher group who own B&Q
bought Screwfix a few months ago.............wouldn't that mean they're
both the same thing?
--
Jon Beaumont
Dr Bilge
Jon Beaumont <Bri...@louvre.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> I'm sure I read somewhere recently that the Kingfisher group who own B&Q
> bought Screwfix a few months ago.............wouldn't that mean they're
> both the same thing?
>
They will be now (see below). Its a real pity that someone like Screwfix
has ended up in the pudgy hands of Kingfisher. I presume that any pretence
of value for money or good service will be sucked out of Screwfix, thus
aligning the quality, price and service with those top class operators
Woolies, Comet, and B&Q (the latter with its unique "ten in front" promise).
Bilge
Date: 27 Jul 1999 08:28:36
Service: AFX
LONDON (AFX) - Kingfisher PLC said it confirms its French based DIY unit
Castorama, is to buy Screwfix.
The net assets of the overall business being acquired in the last
audited
accounts, dated Jan 31 1999, were 3.8 mln stg, Kingfisher said.
Screwfix, the UK mail order and e-commerce supplier of building,
carpentry,
plumbing, electrical and maintenance products, has seen year-to-year sales
growth ahead of last year's growth.
"Since 1992 sales at Screwfix have virtually doubled every year and last
year's turnover was 28.2 mln stg," Kingfisher added.
Screwfix business consists of Screwfix Direct Ltd, Wildbird
International
Ltd and a freehold property previously owned by the vendor's pension fund,
Kingfisher added.
spw/
> --
> Jon Beaumont
Tony Polson
<Bri...@louvre.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <383b03d5...@news.btinternet.com>, Tony Polson
><news....@btinternet.com> writes
>> I'm glad I chose the B&Q brand - even though I'm by no
>>means a B&Q fan and buy from Screwfix or local *real* builders'
>>merchants whenever practicable.
>
>I'm sure I read somewhere recently that the Kingfisher group who own B&Q
>bought Screwfix a few months ago.............wouldn't that mean they're
>both the same thing?
Who cares?
As long as the price, quality and selection is right, I'll buy from
Screwfix. I don't even care if they're owned by Lord Archer.
If Kingfisher bump up Screwfix's prices, there will be other companies
willing to compete for our business now that Screwfix have shown how.
Dave Smith
with gloss. I have tried it once and it did seem to get rid of virtually
all the smell. He also told me that when he stores emulsion paint he puts a
thin layer of water over the top of the paint before putting the lid on.
This excludes the air and stops a skin forming. It can easily be stirred in
when the paint is required next. I suppose it would work with gloss and
could easily be poured off when the paint is next required.
Tony Polson <news....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:40:12 -0000, in uk.d-i-y "Dr Bilge"
> <a...@aands.freeserve.co.ewekay> wrote:
>
> >My only experience of water based gloss paints was that they provided
much
> >poorer "workability", than solvent based, slightly worse opacity
(covering
> >power), and in addition it gave off a rather vomit like smell as it
dried -
> >IMHO worse than the smell from solvent based paints....
Stuart Noble
>a thin layer of water over the top of the paint before putting the lid on.
>This excludes the air and stops a skin forming. It can easily be stirred
in
>when the paint is required next. I suppose it would work with gloss and
>could easily be poured off when the paint is next required.
either. The action of stirring alone reduces the consistency of the paint,
and it takes an hour or so before it thickens again.
Paul Clark
from "Dave Smith" <d...@davesmith55.freeserve.co.uk> contains these words:
> thin layer of water over the top of the paint before putting the lid on.
> This excludes the air and stops a skin forming. It can easily be stirred in
> when the paint is required next. I suppose it would work with gloss and
> could easily be poured off when the paint is next required.
i store my paint upside down,and the next time i use it i am just
careful how i stir it.
paul.
Matthew Marks
"Dave Smith" <d...@davesmith55.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
> A painter told me to cut up an onion and leave it on a plate whilst painting
> with gloss. I have tried it once and it did seem to get rid of virtually
> all the smell.
How does this work? I can't imagine the onion somehow absorbs the vapours, so
I presume it knocks out your nose so you don't smell them any more.
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pvry...@ovtsbbg.pbz
<d...@davesmith55.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>This excludes the air and stops a skin forming. It can easily be stirred in
>when the paint is required next. I suppose it would work with gloss and
>could easily be poured off when the paint is next required.
An uncle of my wife, who was a professional decorator (the uncle, not my wife)
in the days before water based gloss paints were invented, always recommended
storing tins of partly used paint upside down. Any skin which then forms is
*underneath* the paint when you reopen the tin. It works. but of course one
has to remember that professionals tend not to keep partly used tins of paint
for anything like as long as some of us amateurs.
Chris Ward.
Stuart Grant
> *underneath* the paint when you reopen the tin.
>
back into the tin before stirring to get the correct colour match.
Stuart Grant
Ray Lilley
>David Pearson news:dp.336....@medphysics.leeds.ac.uk...
> Does anybody have a good method of getting rid of the smell from new
gloss
> paint? Both the initial solvent smell and the lingering 'new paint'
smell make
> me feel sick and I'm part way through a major re-decorating
programme :-(
>
> Dave
Hi Dave,
I Remember years back when spending a year or so as a colour
matcher that some of the lads used to 'take' home perfume that was
other wise used to put in the more expensive brands of paint. I was
told it was industrial perfume, though I don't know what that implies.
Regards...
Ray.