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Dave

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Aug 17, 2008, 12:32:19 PM8/17/08
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I found this in the garden yesterday (pictures on link below). It's
made of lead and looks like a large rivet. The dome is 2" in diameter
and 1" deep, the length is 4.75" and the shaft is 0.75". At the end is
a small steel pin, it is loose but will not pull out. There's
something loose inside as it rattles when shaken.
Anyone got any ideas? I was a bit reluctant to pull the pin too hard
or cut it open!

http://www.dalecu.co.uk/images/Dscf0071.jpg


Dave

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The Natural Philosopher

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Aug 17, 2008, 1:16:25 PM8/17/08
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looks like a darning mushroom..

Dave

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Aug 17, 2008, 1:59:43 PM8/17/08
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 18:13:14 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson
<amyg...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>My mum used to have a darning mushroom that
>looked just like this, but it was made of wood.
>
>The shaft unscrewed, and needles were kept inside it.

I remember wooden darning mushrooms, but the diameter was bigger. This
seems too small for that purpose.


Dave

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Tim Lamb

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Aug 17, 2008, 5:44:26 PM8/17/08
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In message <48a84fe0...@news.btopenworld.com>, Dave
<da...@hotmail.com> writes

Bradawl?

regards

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Ariadne

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Aug 17, 2008, 6:13:19 PM8/17/08
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On 17 Aug, 22:44, Tim Lamb <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <48a84fe0.29848...@news.btopenworld.com>, Dave

Brilliant! Homemade, do you think?

Frank Erskine

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Aug 17, 2008, 7:38:16 PM8/17/08
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Lead seems to be a rather unlikely candidate for a bradawl :-)

I think I might be tempted to call the bomb disposal people before you
move it around too much..... ;-)

Are you certain it's lead?

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Ariadne

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Aug 17, 2008, 8:19:04 PM8/17/08
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On 18 Aug, 00:38, Frank Erskine <frank.ersk...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:44:26 +0100, Tim Lamb
>
>
>
>
>
> <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >In message <48a84fe0.29848...@news.btopenworld.com>, Dave

> ><da...@hotmail.com> writes
>
> >>I found this in the garden yesterday (pictures on link below). It's
> >>made of lead and looks like a large rivet. The dome is 2" in diameter
> >>and 1" deep, the length is 4.75" and the shaft is 0.75". At the end is
> >>a small steel pin, it is loose but will not pull out. There's
> >>something loose inside as it rattles when shaken.
> >>Anyone got any ideas? I was a bit reluctant to pull the pin too hard
> >>or cut it open!
>
> >>http://www.dalecu.co.uk/images/Dscf0071.jpg
>
> >Bradawl?
>
> Lead seems to be a rather unlikely candidate for a bradawl :-)
>
> I think I might be tempted to call the bomb disposal people before you
> move it around too much..... ;-)
>
> Are you certain it's lead?
>
> --
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Tim Lamb

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Aug 18, 2008, 9:34:00 AM8/18/08
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In message <s8dha455biu5qhnvn...@4ax.com>, Frank Erskine
<frank....@btinternet.com> writes

Ah! Missed the lead bit. What about sash window weight? Something to do
with curtains?......

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>

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The Natural Philosopher

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Aug 18, 2008, 9:53:54 AM8/18/08
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Might be an old plumb-bob.

Martin Bonner

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Aug 18, 2008, 11:03:42 AM8/18/08
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On Aug 18, 2:53 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> Tim Lamb wrote:
> > In message <s8dha455biu5qhnvn7adbljp5thk40f...@4ax.com>, Frank Erskine
> > <frank.ersk...@btinternet.com> writes

> >> On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:44:26 +0100, Tim Lamb
> >> <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>> In message <48a84fe0.29848...@news.btopenworld.com>, Dave

> >>> <da...@hotmail.com> writes
>
> >>>> I found this in the garden yesterday (pictures on link below). It's
> >>>> made of lead and looks like a large rivet. The dome is 2" in diameter
> >>>> and 1" deep, the length is 4.75" and the shaft is 0.75". At the end is
> >>>> a small steel pin, it is loose but will not pull out. There's
> >>>> something loose inside as it rattles when shaken.
> >>>> Anyone got any ideas? I was a bit reluctant to pull the pin too hard
> >>>> or cut it open!
>
> >>>>http://www.dalecu.co.uk/images/Dscf0071.jpg
>
> >>> Bradawl?
>
> >> Lead seems to be a rather unlikely candidate for a bradawl :-)
>
> >> I think I might be tempted to call the bomb disposal people before you
> >> move it around too much..... ;-)
>
> >> Are you certain it's lead?
>
> > Ah! Missed the lead bit. What about sash window weight? Something to do
> > with curtains?......
>
> > regards
>
> Might be an old plumb-bob.

Or part of the old-fashioned kit for making thread from fleece (before
spinning wheels). I can't remember what they are called now :-(

Rod

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Aug 18, 2008, 11:37:37 AM8/18/08
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Drop spindle?

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Ariadne

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Aug 18, 2008, 11:42:57 AM8/18/08
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On 18 Aug, 14:34, Tim Lamb <t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <s8dha455biu5qhnvn7adbljp5thk40f...@4ax.com>, Frank Erskine
> <frank.ersk...@btinternet.com> writes

>
>
>
>
>
> >On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:44:26 +0100, Tim Lamb
> ><t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>In message <48a84fe0.29848...@news.btopenworld.com>, Dave

> >><da...@hotmail.com> writes
>
> >>>I found this in the garden yesterday (pictures on link below). It's
> >>>made of lead and looks like a large rivet. The dome is 2" in diameter
> >>>and 1" deep, the length is 4.75" and the shaft is 0.75". At the end is
> >>>a small steel pin, it is loose but will not pull out. There's
> >>>something loose inside as it rattles when shaken.
> >>>Anyone got any ideas? I was a bit reluctant to pull the pin too hard
> >>>or cut it open!
>
> >>>http://www.dalecu.co.uk/images/Dscf0071.jpg
>
> >>Bradawl?
>
> >Lead seems to be a rather unlikely candidate for a bradawl :-)
>
> >I think I might be tempted to call the bomb disposal people before you
> >move it around too much..... ;-)
>
> >Are you certain it's lead?
>
> Ah! Missed the lead bit. What about sash window weight? Something to do
> with curtains?......
>
> regards
>
>
>
> --
> Tim Lamb- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Not with a pin, surely.
.

Rod

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Aug 18, 2008, 12:12:42 PM8/18/08
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Mushroom duck decoy anchor? (If you've got a soft bottom, so to speak.
:-) )

<http://www.do-itmolds.com/prodmolds.aspx?c=90>

S Viemeister

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Aug 18, 2008, 12:21:29 PM8/18/08
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Martin Bonner wrote:

>
> Or part of the old-fashioned kit for making thread from fleece (before
> spinning wheels). I can't remember what they are called now :-(

Drop spindles. But I very much doubt that's what it is.

Ariadne

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Aug 18, 2008, 12:58:25 PM8/18/08
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Try whipping it and see if it keeps up like a top.

As long as it isn't a bomb...

Dave

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Aug 18, 2008, 1:26:38 PM8/18/08
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I'm still none the wiser as to what it is. However, it's not a bomb! I
pushed the pin and it went inside, made the hole slightly bigger and
it fell out. The pin is about 2.5" long square shaped but heavily
rusted and thicker than the bit sticking out.
It may have been tighter before it rusted, but can't see it being a
bradawl as the continual turning would have weakened the lead inside.
The plumb line, another possiblility, but why have the domed head and
not just a cylindrical shaft.

Thanks for all the replies.

Dave

Cicero

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Aug 18, 2008, 1:27:45 PM8/18/08
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==================================
It could be the remains of a crudely made poker from a set of fire irons.
Good quality fire irons usually had brass handles.

Cic.
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Dave

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Aug 18, 2008, 3:09:56 PM8/18/08
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:27:45 GMT, Cicero <shel...@hellfire.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:32:19 +0000, Dave wrote:
>
>> I found this in the garden yesterday (pictures on link below). It's made
>> of lead and looks like a large rivet. The dome is 2" in diameter and 1"
>> deep, the length is 4.75" and the shaft is 0.75". At the end is a small
>> steel pin, it is loose but will not pull out. There's something loose
>> inside as it rattles when shaken. Anyone got any ideas? I was a bit
>> reluctant to pull the pin too hard or cut it open!
>>
>> http://www.dalecu.co.uk/images/Dscf0071.jpg
>>
>>
>> Dave
>
>==================================
>It could be the remains of a crudely made poker from a set of fire irons.
>Good quality fire irons usually had brass handles.
>
>Cic.

This is made of lead, hardly suitable considering its low melting
point!

Derek Geldard

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Aug 18, 2008, 3:24:24 PM8/18/08
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Quick thinking Ari ...

How about this: http://snipurl.com/leadtop

<French toymaker's site>

>As long as it isn't a bomb...

Derek

Cicero

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Aug 18, 2008, 3:37:33 PM8/18/08
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===================================
I don't remember pokers getting that hot! You didn't leave the poker in
the fire - just stir it up a bit.

Ariadne

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Aug 18, 2008, 5:12:37 PM8/18/08
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On 18 Aug, 20:24, Derek Geldard <im...@miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 09:58:25 -0700 (PDT), Ariadne
>

It's very pretty but is it really lead?

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Frank Erskine

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Aug 18, 2008, 6:43:19 PM8/18/08
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:24:37 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson
<amyg...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>Of course you leave pokers in the fire! Then, when they're red hot,
>you burn patterns in the kindlers, lying in the hearth ready for lighting
>the fire the next morning.

Exactly!

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Cicero

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Aug 19, 2008, 1:27:41 AM8/19/08
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:24:37 +0100, Anne Welsh Jackson wrote:

> Cicero <shel...@hellfire.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:09:56 +0000, Dave wrote:
>> > Cicero <shel...@hellfire.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:32:19 +0000, Dave wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I found this in the garden yesterday (pictures on link below). It's
>> >>> made of lead and looks like a large rivet. The dome is 2" in
>> >>> diameter and 1" deep, the length is 4.75" and the shaft is 0.75".
>> >>> At the end is a small steel pin, it is loose but will not pull out.
>> >>> There's something loose inside as it rattles when shaken. Anyone
>> >>> got any ideas? I was a bit reluctant to pull the pin too hard or
>> >>> cut it open!
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.dalecu.co.uk/images/Dscf0071.jpg
>> >>>

>> >>==================================
>> >>It could be the remains of a crudely made poker from a set of fire
>> >>irons. Good quality fire irons usually had brass handles.
>> >>

>> > This is made of lead, hardly suitable considering its low melting
>> > point!
>
>> ===================================
>> I don't remember pokers getting that hot! You didn't leave the poker in
>> the fire - just stir it up a bit.
>

> Of course you leave pokers in the fire! Then, when they're red hot, you
> burn patterns in the kindlers, lying in the hearth ready for lighting

> the fire the next morning. Then you get a hiding from your dad!
>
> At least that's what used to happen in _our_ house!

===================================
But not the normal use for a poker. People generally were careful to
protect themselves from excessive heat which is why pokers were often
quite long and they spent most of their time hanging on a tidy in company
with a brush and shovel.

Derek Geldard

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Aug 19, 2008, 5:25:02 AM8/19/08
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:12:37 -0700 (PDT), Ariadne
<ariad...@gmail.com> wrote:


>> >Try whipping it and see if it keeps up like a top.
>>
>> Quick thinking Ari ...
>>
>> How about this:http://snipurl.com/leadtop
>>
>> <French toymaker's site>
>>
>> >As long as it isn't a bomb...
>>
>> Derek
>
>It's very pretty but is it really lead?

No but were they *all* wood ?

The item in question could have been a toy somebody made at work and
brought home for the kids, which would be consistent with it being
found in a garden. The turned wooden one has a pip for spinning on
where the lead one has a steel / iron insert, a lead pip would soon
wear away.

If it is indeed a one-off item somebody made at work and brought home
it will be difficult to get much further with identifying it.

Another idea I had was that it was some sort of cobbler's / leather
worker's tool for making holes in leather, but better tools than that
have been available for a very long time.

Derek

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