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Stephen

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Apr 14, 2016, 4:49:22 AM4/14/16
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Hello,

I have found my old soda stream. It is a Gemini model that I bought
about 15 years ago. Am I right to think that soda stream changed the
design of the gas cylinders (something to do with a different thread)?
If I were to start using it, when my cylinders ran-out would I have to
buy a new machine?

I seem to remember reading somewhere about the controversy caused by
changing the cylinders. I think there was a suggestion you might be
able to either refill the old cylinders (by taking them to BOC) or
perhaps getting an threaded nipple adaptor that would screw the new
cylinder onto the old machine. Has anyone done either of these?

TBH, is it worth doing? I am sure in "the good old days" you could buy
Schwepps concentrates for the soda stream but now you can only get
their own brands and sometimes you can taste the difference. I am
wondering if it is a gadget that I don't really need?

Thanks,
Stephen

newshound

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Apr 14, 2016, 8:52:18 AM4/14/16
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I'd have said so, looking at the price of supermarket mixers (even
branded ones).


Adam Funk

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Apr 14, 2016, 9:30:07 AM4/14/16
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On 2016-04-14, Stephen wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have found my old soda stream. It is a Gemini model that I bought
> about 15 years ago. Am I right to think that soda stream changed the
> design of the gas cylinders (something to do with a different thread)?
> If I were to start using it, when my cylinders ran-out would I have to
> buy a new machine?

Yes, but I think Sodastream offers some kind of trade-in scheme on old
models; at the very least, you can trade the old cylinders to cover
the "deposit" on new ones.


> I seem to remember reading somewhere about the controversy caused by
> changing the cylinders. I think there was a suggestion you might be
> able to either refill the old cylinders (by taking them to BOC) or
> perhaps getting an threaded nipple adaptor that would screw the new
> cylinder onto the old machine. Has anyone done either of these?
>
> TBH, is it worth doing? I am sure in "the good old days" you could buy
> Schwepps concentrates for the soda stream but now you can only get
> their own brands and sometimes you can taste the difference. I am
> wondering if it is a gadget that I don't really need?

I drink a lot of fizzy water, mostly plain, so I like it. Also, you
can mix the fizzy water with squash, cordial, & other things besides
the official concentrates.

Tim Watts

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Apr 14, 2016, 10:10:58 AM4/14/16
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And this makes a mockery of all the greenwash - if eco-fascists were
serious, they'd be doing something useful like lobbying for this - you
have the water in the tap, so this saves god knows how many ton/miles of
pointless water transportation.

Chris J Dixon

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Apr 14, 2016, 11:02:33 AM4/14/16
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Adam Funk wrote:

>On 2016-04-14, Stephen wrote:

>> I have found my old soda stream. It is a Gemini model that I bought
>> about 15 years ago. Am I right to think that soda stream changed the
>> design of the gas cylinders (something to do with a different thread)?
>> If I were to start using it, when my cylinders ran-out would I have to
>> buy a new machine?

>> I seem to remember reading somewhere about the controversy caused by
>> changing the cylinders. I think there was a suggestion you might be
>> able to either refill the old cylinders (by taking them to BOC) or
>> perhaps getting an threaded nipple adaptor that would screw the new
>> cylinder onto the old machine. Has anyone done either of these?
>>
>> TBH, is it worth doing? I am sure in "the good old days" you could buy
>> Schwepps concentrates for the soda stream but now you can only get
>> their own brands and sometimes you can taste the difference. I am
>> wondering if it is a gadget that I don't really need?
>
>I drink a lot of fizzy water, mostly plain, so I like it. Also, you
>can mix the fizzy water with squash, cordial, & other things besides
>the official concentrates.

Friend of mine has a houseful of tqt. He once got hold of an old
Sodastream, connected it up to a large CO2 cylinder he also
happened to have, and proceeded to gas up 2 litre bottles of tap
water, even cheaper than supermarket value fizzy water.

I think he wanted to try oxygen, but the insolubility was a bit
of a problem ;-)

Chris
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Tim+

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Apr 14, 2016, 1:08:22 PM4/14/16
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Stephen <re...@to.newsgroup.invalid>

> I am
> wondering if it is a gadget that I don't really need?

Well just about everyone else came to this conclusion about 20 years ago.
;-)

Tim



F Murtz

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Apr 14, 2016, 1:49:59 PM4/14/16
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You are much better off buying Aldi soda water and using it with the
flavour, much much cheaper

Graham.

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Apr 14, 2016, 2:10:14 PM4/14/16
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:56:18 +0100, pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:
>I junked our Sodastream, good and solid though it was, when
>supermarket own brand fizzy water became ridiculously cheap.
>
>Not worrrying about compatibility of cylinders, reliable
>suppliers, spare seals, safety and all stuff that was like having
>a weight lifted off my shoulders. :-)

What happened to all those Sparklets siphons, and will 'You know who'
give me my 75p deposit back on this non-refillable one?
https://www.flickr.com/gp/g3zvt/v29149

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Adam Funk

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Apr 14, 2016, 4:00:06 PM4/14/16
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On 2016-04-14, Chris J Dixon wrote:

> Friend of mine has a houseful of tqt. He once got hold of an old
> Sodastream, connected it up to a large CO2 cylinder he also
> happened to have, and proceeded to gas up 2 litre bottles of tap
> water, even cheaper than supermarket value fizzy water.
>
> I think he wanted to try oxygen, but the insolubility was a bit
> of a problem ;-)

Try a mix of nitrogen & CO2 to make "creamflow" water.

Rod Speed

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Apr 15, 2016, 1:58:39 AM4/15/16
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"Graham." <alt.f7-...@yopmail.com> wrote in message
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Most got broken, quite a few ended up in the dump
even when they were still working fine, quite a few of
them are still around.

> and will 'You know who' give me my 75p
> deposit back on this non-refillable one?
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/g3zvt/v29149

Nope, because there never was a deposit on those
and you can refill them fine even now. You can still
get the micro gas cylinders/sparklets for them and they
are quite a bit cheaper than soda water from Lidaldi.

Rod Speed

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Apr 15, 2016, 2:49:50 AM4/15/16
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"pamela" <inv...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> That's an antique!

Still perfectly viable today. You can still get the micro
gas cylinders/sparklets and they are much cheaper
than buying the fizzy water from Lidaldi.

damdu...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 15, 2016, 4:25:17 AM4/15/16
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 20:55:55 +0100, pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:


>> What happened to all those Sparklets siphons, and will 'You know
>> who' give me my 75p deposit back on this non-refillable one?
>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/g3zvt/v29149
>
>That's an antique!
The trigger and nozzle are not. They are plastic.
The glass part could be much older but really old ones often had some
woven metal mesh around the glass part.

G.Harman

Andrew

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Apr 15, 2016, 7:43:23 AM4/15/16
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On 14/04/2016 18:49, F Murtz wrote:

> You are much better off buying Aldi soda water and using it with the
> flavour, much much cheaper

Not everyone has an Aldi in their kitchen, or even in their
town or village, so the calculation of 'cheaper' needs to
be carefully thought out (which most people can't or won't do)

Andy Burns

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Apr 15, 2016, 8:03:49 AM4/15/16
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The price for a Sodastream refill seems to be £10, and that will make 60
litres of fizz, counting tap water as effectively free* that makes it
16p/litre vs LidAldi soda water at 37p/litre according to mysupermarket,
factor in a new machine every decade or so ...

[*] even if you're on a meter what is it, £5/tonne including taking it
away again?

Graham.

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Apr 15, 2016, 10:44:49 AM4/15/16
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"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
The label on the siphon shows there was a deposit.
as for refilling this type, there may be a way to do it
unofficially, but this particular type were intended to be
returned to the bottling plant.
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Chris J Dixon

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Apr 16, 2016, 4:31:47 AM4/16/16
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Andy Burns wrote:

>The price for a Sodastream refill seems to be £10, and that will make 60
>litres of fizz, counting tap water as effectively free* that makes it
>16p/litre vs LidAldi soda water at 37p/litre according to mysupermarket,
>factor in a new machine every decade or so ...

Sainsbury's Basics sparkling water 10p/l

R D S

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Apr 17, 2016, 1:40:08 PM4/17/16
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:23:06 +0100, Adam Funk wrote:

> On 2016-04-14, Stephen wrote:
> I drink a lot of fizzy water, mostly plain, so I like it. Also, you can
> mix the fizzy water with squash, cordial, & other things besides the
> official concentrates.

Me too, we used it exactly as you do but I learned that it's cheaper
buying the sparkling spring water in bottles from Sainsbury's.

OTOMH £1.60 for 4x2 litre.

And saves the hassle of putting it through the Brita first, our tap water
is funky.

Davey

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Apr 18, 2016, 8:25:00 PM4/18/16
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 09:25:14 +0100
damdu...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

> The trigger and nozzle are not. They are plastic.
> The glass part could be much older but really old ones often had some
> woven metal mesh around the glass part.

We have one of those in storage somewhere... I remember my Grandad
making soda water in it, and then the empty canisters became
play-things.

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Apr 19, 2016, 3:33:16 AM4/19/16
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 01:24:58 +0100, Davey <da...@example.invalid>
wrote:


>> The glass part could be much older but really old ones often had some
>> woven metal mesh around the glass part.
>
>We have one of those in storage somewhere... I remember my Grandad
>making soda water in it, and then the empty canisters became
>play-things.

Do you mean the small Co2 "Sparklets" Bulbs ?

We found they made excellent Torpedoes after being painstakingly
filled with the traditional weed killer and sugar mixture.

We did not allow for metal fatigue so after a couple of runs one
exploded rather violently.

This had two consequences, The Pet Ducks belonging to my school chums
mother objected with much quacking to find themselves on top of a
water spout and departed her pond for ever , the other is a scar
still visible on my knee to this day from some shrapnel.
I was very fortunate it hit the patella and bounced out again rather
than somewhere softer or an eye, Mother believed me that the damaged
and bloody jeans were the result of a push bike accident.

G.Harman

damdu...@yahoo.co.uk

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Apr 19, 2016, 7:09:23 AM4/19/16
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2016 11:10:43 +0100, pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote:


>> Do you mean the small Co2 "Sparklets" Bulbs ?
>>
>> We found they made excellent Torpedoes after being painstakingly
>> filled with the traditional weed killer and sugar mixture.
>
>I daren't ask how you ignited that mixture.

Jetex Fuse was the best, also just laying it in a tobacco tin with end
removed and the same mixture stuffed around it and lighting that
worked .
>
>> We did not allow for metal fatigue so after a couple of runs one
>> exploded rather violently.


>>
>> This had two consequences, The Pet Ducks belonging to my school
>> chums mother objected with much quacking to find themselves on
>> top of a water spout and departed her pond for ever , the other
>> is a scar still visible on my knee to this day from some
>> shrapnel.

>Words fail me.
>
We thought we had lost the power of speech as well but that was the
temporary loss of hearing due to the very loud bang.

It was about 25-30 years later we finally confessed to my mates Mum as
to why the Ducks left.

Ironically I'm off to her Funeral in 2 hours time.
No sadness really ,she was healthy until recently then things started
to fail rapidly.At a family get together said to her daughter two
weeks before she reached 90 "I don't really want to be 90 and ill" and
died in her sleep that night.

G.Harman




Rod Speed

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May 1, 2016, 2:15:51 AM5/1/16
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pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote
> wrote
>> pamela <inv...@nospam.com> wrote

>>>> Do you mean the small Co2 "Sparklets" Bulbs ?

>>>> We found they made excellent Torpedoes after
>>>> being painstakingly filled with the traditional
>>>> weed killer and sugar mixture.

>>> I daren't ask how you ignited that mixture.

>> Jetex Fuse was the best,

Yeah, that's what we used too, not just the fuse, the pellet too.

>> also just laying it in a tobacco tin with end removed and the
>> same mixture stuffed around it and lighting that worked .

> Now I know for certain you were insane! :-)

Nope, just typical kids.

> You're lucky to have escaped serious injury.

Yeah, me too. Never had a problem with the ones we blew up
inches from our eyes behind a very solid timber barrier made
from tongue and groove floorboards with eye holes drilled in
it, filled with a thick slab of glass with metal mesh over that.

But when we tried one with the bottle filled with oxygen from
an oxy acetylene set, blew that up with one hell of a bang that
no one in the neighbourhood could miss and ended up with a
big chunk of flesh cut by a bit of flying glass.

>>>> We did not allow for metal fatigue so after a couple of runs
>>>> one exploded rather violently.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> This had two consequences, The Pet Ducks belonging to my
>>>> school chums mother objected with much quacking to find
>>>> themselves on top of a water spout and departed her pond for
>>>> ever , the other is a scar still visible on my knee to this
>>>> day from some shrapnel.
>>
>>>Words fail me.
>>>
>> We thought we had lost the power of speech as well but that was
>> the temporary loss of hearing due to the very loud bang.
>>
>> It was about 25-30 years later we finally confessed to my mates
>> Mum as to why the Ducks left.
>>
>> Ironically I'm off to her Funeral in 2 hours time.
>
> I'm very sorry to hear that. My condolences.

Don’t need it in that situation, by far the best way to go IMO.

Parousia

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Dec 6, 2020, 11:45:07 PM12/6/20
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I just came across this thread, while looking for help with a Sodastream Gemini that I dug up, after it had been in storage for awhile. I was wondering if you (or anyone) could tell me how to remove the gas cylinder to replace it (or refill it), as I cannot find any way to remove the back cover. I presume that there’s some trick that I’m missing, but I’ve run out of ideas!

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polygonum_on_google

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Dec 7, 2020, 4:32:42 AM12/7/20
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On Monday, 7 December 2020 at 04:45:07 UTC, Parousia wrote:
> I just came across this thread, while looking for help with a Sodastream Gemini that I dug up, after it had been in storage for awhile. I was wondering if you (or anyone) could tell me how to remove the gas cylinder to replace it (or refill it), as I cannot find any way to remove the back cover. I presume that there’s some trick that I’m missing, but I’ve run out of ideas!
>
There is a shortage of carbon dioxide. Less beer being brewed, lots needed for dry ice for vaccine. Hence supply issues.

alan_m

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Dec 7, 2020, 6:01:15 AM12/7/20
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The consumption of beer (and other alcoholic drinks) in UK homes has
rocketed.

The running costs of a Sodastream are often are much higher than buying
the equivalent finished product in a supermarket, unless you are into
expensive designer French fizzy water.

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alan_m

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Dec 7, 2020, 6:22:09 AM12/7/20
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On 07/12/2020 10:35, Chris Hogg wrote:

> Talking of brewing and CO2, I saw this on the beeb this AM
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55207597
>
> It has to be rubbish, surely. CO2 from fermentation comes from the
> sugar (i.e. malt or other source of carbohydrate) so is 'natural',
> 'green', 'renewable' or whatever term you want to use.



In a real ale the Co2 in a cask is natural. The yeast is not killed off
and therefore some secondary fermentation take place in the cask
providing the CO2. For "real ale" in bottles its the same and this is
why you often see a sediment in the bottom of the bottle and why they
should be poured into a glass carefully to avoid disturbing the sediment.

Keg beer sold in pubs, in cans and in the vast majority of bottles the
yeast has been killed off. The product is sterile and lifeless hence CO2
is injected from other sources. In pubs this comes from large cylinders
of CO2 and for bottles and cans it is injected into the finished product
in the same way as that for fizzy lemonade, cola etc., again from bulk
sources.

There are 4 main producers of industrial Co2 in the UK which is the
by-product of fertiliser and bioethanol industries. A few years back
these companies had simultaneous plant closures for maintenance hence a
shortage of Co2 for keg beer and fizzy drinks.

Tim+

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Dec 7, 2020, 8:22:02 AM12/7/20
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Parousia <b3cd6c5981f70d52...@example.com> wrote:
> I just came across this thread, while looking for help with a Sodastream
> Gemini that I dug up, after it had been in storage for awhile. I was
> wondering if you (or anyone) could tell me how to remove the gas cylinder
> to replace it (or refill it), as I cannot find any way to remove the back
> cover. I presume that there’s some trick that I’m missing, but I’ve run out of ideas!


Think you just squeeze the lower part of the cylinder cover at the back
and that releases the retaining lugs. There are indentations in the plastic
where you’re supposed to squeeze.

Tim

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