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JakeD
Dec 19, 2012, 3:46:29 PM12/19/12
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Hi all,
I have a double garage with a sloping 'big 6' corrugated asbestos roof
which is about 30+ years old. The roof joists are getting very wet in
places. At first I thought it must be due to rainwater getting in through
one or two of the holes through with the 6" galvanised roofing nails were
driven. However, after carefully sealing any possible such leaks, the
wetness continues. Yesterday (which was a cold but rain-free day), I went
into the garage and inspected the roof, just after nightfall, and I
discovered that almost the whole underside of the roof had a lot of
condensation on it. Since the roof is gently sloping, that condensation
runs along the enderide of each corrugation ridge, until it meets a joist.
That is where the water gets into the wood. One weird thing I noticed is
that some sheets of the asbestos seem more prone to condensation than
others.
Are there any tricks I can employ to stop the condensation?
If not, does anyone know of any way to divert the water away from the
joists? I thought of gluing a short length of string to the underside of
each ridge, just upward of each joist, so that the water drips down the
string and into the garage... but it's not a very satisfactory solution,
because I have a lot of perishable stuff stored in the garage.
Can anyone offer any suggestions?
Thank you...
JakeD
I have a double garage with a sloping 'big 6' corrugated asbestos roof
which is about 30+ years old. The roof joists are getting very wet in
places. At first I thought it must be due to rainwater getting in through
one or two of the holes through with the 6" galvanised roofing nails were
driven. However, after carefully sealing any possible such leaks, the
wetness continues. Yesterday (which was a cold but rain-free day), I went
into the garage and inspected the roof, just after nightfall, and I
discovered that almost the whole underside of the roof had a lot of
condensation on it. Since the roof is gently sloping, that condensation
runs along the enderide of each corrugation ridge, until it meets a joist.
That is where the water gets into the wood. One weird thing I noticed is
that some sheets of the asbestos seem more prone to condensation than
others.
Are there any tricks I can employ to stop the condensation?
If not, does anyone know of any way to divert the water away from the
joists? I thought of gluing a short length of string to the underside of
each ridge, just upward of each joist, so that the water drips down the
string and into the garage... but it's not a very satisfactory solution,
because I have a lot of perishable stuff stored in the garage.
Can anyone offer any suggestions?
Thank you...
JakeD
meow...@care2.com
Dec 19, 2012, 4:56:15 PM12/19/12
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NT
harry
Dec 20, 2012, 3:00:04 AM12/20/12
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under it and is very damp. Water evaporates from it and condenses on
the roof. Check if the floor is damp first.
Floor paint might fix the problem, also improve ventilation.
Terry Fields
Dec 20, 2012, 4:27:48 AM12/20/12
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 00:00:04 -0800, harry wrote:
> On Dec 19, 9:56 pm, meow2...@care2.com wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:46:29 PM UTC, JakeD wrote:
>> > I have a double garage with a sloping 'big 6' corrugated asbestos
>> > roof which is about 30+ years old. The roof joists are getting very
>> > wet in places. I discovered that almost the whole
> On Dec 19, 9:56 pm, meow2...@care2.com wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:46:29 PM UTC, JakeD wrote:
>> > I have a double garage with a sloping 'big 6' corrugated asbestos
>> > roof which is about 30+ years old. The roof joists are getting very
>> > underside of the roof had a lot of condensation on it.
>> You need to reduce interior RH. Look for the sources of damp.
> The above is right. You may find the floor has no damp proof membrane
> under it and is very damp. Water evaporates from it and condenses on the
> roof. Check if the floor is damp first.
> Floor paint might fix the problem, also improve ventilation.
The problem might be less ventilation than heat radiation from the roof.
> under it and is very damp. Water evaporates from it and condenses on the
> roof. Check if the floor is damp first.
> Floor paint might fix the problem, also improve ventilation.
If the roof temperature drops below the local dew point due to radiating heat into a clear sky, water will condense
on it anyway, irrespective of the ventilation. Perhaps sheets of bubble-wrap tacked to the joists might help;
bubble-wrap is frequently used in greenhouses partly for this purpose.
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Terry Fields
stuart noble
Dec 20, 2012, 4:47:33 AM12/20/12
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rain :) Must be warm(er) air coming from somewhere if it's condensing on
the underside of the roof.
Maybe asbestos becomes porous over time?
meow...@care2.com
Dec 20, 2012, 6:21:58 AM12/20/12
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> Must be warm(er) air coming from somewhere if it's condensing on
> the underside of the roof.
> Maybe asbestos becomes porous over time?
NT
Kevin
Dec 20, 2012, 1:28:10 PM12/20/12
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On 19/12/2012 20:46, JakeD wrote:
> I have a double garage with a sloping 'big 6' corrugated asbestos roof
> which is about 30+ years old.
<snip>
> I have a double garage with a sloping 'big 6' corrugated asbestos roof
> which is about 30+ years old.
> Yesterday (which was a cold but rain-free day), I went
> into the garage and inspected the roof, just after nightfall, and I
> discovered that almost the whole underside of the roof had a lot of
> condensation on it.
far worse in areas where I'd slapped a coat of white paint on - could
have been a cheap masonry paint, or household emulsion, but definitely
water-based. The bare asbestos-cement sheets become damp, but I believe
they can absorb sufficient condensation that they don't drip. The
condensation is worst after a clear, frosty night, when presumably the
roof sheet temperature drops well below dewpoint of the air in the
garage. It's unheated, and draughty, and the floor has a good dpm.
Obviously I much regret painting it - almost as much as I regret using
the roofing sheets in the first place, but it was built for animal
housing with open-fronted hay and machinery storage bays. I've
considered fitting a ceiling and some insulation, but it would need a
vapour barrier to avoid condensation in places you can't see, and as
they were secondhand sheets 25 years ago they do have the odd crack and
nail hole that leak occasionally.
If I could be bothered, and thought I'd be here for a few more years,
I'd either re-roof it in insulated box-section steel or try
anti-condensation paint, which I understand works by providing an
absorbent layer.
--
Kevin
JakeD
Dec 20, 2012, 5:43:49 PM12/20/12
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Kevin <2011OMIT_T...@mainbeam.co.uk> wrote in news:kavlb6$k1n$1
@dont-email.me:
> If I could be bothered, and thought I'd be here for a few more years,
> I'd either re-roof it in insulated box-section steel or try
> anti-condensation paint, which I understand works by providing an
> absorbent layer.
Thanks to everyone for the input. Anti-condensation paint sounds
interesting. I must look for that.
Yes, mine was built about 20 years ago, using second-hand asbestos too.
I'm mainly concerned about the roof joists rotting due to the moisture
getting on them. Apart from that, the condensation is not really a problem.
Yes, it's interesting how and when the condensation appears. I took a look
in there today, just after nightfall, after a rainy day, (lots of damp air)
and there was no condensation at all.
The garage is already very well ventilated and there is no significant damp
inside coming up through the floor or walls, as it has a proper DPC, etc.
Perhaps I should make it even more well-ventilated, somehow. I don't know
though; you get dew forming on grass, outside, and "outside" is VERY well-
ventilated! :)
JakeD
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> If I could be bothered, and thought I'd be here for a few more years,
> I'd either re-roof it in insulated box-section steel or try
> anti-condensation paint, which I understand works by providing an
> absorbent layer.
interesting. I must look for that.
Yes, mine was built about 20 years ago, using second-hand asbestos too.
I'm mainly concerned about the roof joists rotting due to the moisture
getting on them. Apart from that, the condensation is not really a problem.
Yes, it's interesting how and when the condensation appears. I took a look
in there today, just after nightfall, after a rainy day, (lots of damp air)
and there was no condensation at all.
The garage is already very well ventilated and there is no significant damp
inside coming up through the floor or walls, as it has a proper DPC, etc.
Perhaps I should make it even more well-ventilated, somehow. I don't know
though; you get dew forming on grass, outside, and "outside" is VERY well-
ventilated! :)
JakeD
Kevin
Dec 21, 2012, 3:54:56 AM12/21/12
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On 20/12/2012 22:43, JakeD wrote:
<snip>
parked outside, but not (so often) on one parked under a carport. Point
your infrared thermometer at a clear night sky, and you'll see why your
garage roof, or your car windscreen, is desperate to radiate to it,
causing its temperature to drop below that of the air above and below it.
--
Kevin
<snip>
>
> The garage is already very well ventilated and there is no significant damp
> inside coming up through the floor or walls, as it has a proper DPC, etc.
>
> Perhaps I should make it even more well-ventilated, somehow. I don't know
> though; you get dew forming on grass, outside, and "outside" is VERY well-
> ventilated! :)
>
Indeed - and look at the condensation /dew / hoar frost you get on a car
> The garage is already very well ventilated and there is no significant damp
> inside coming up through the floor or walls, as it has a proper DPC, etc.
>
> Perhaps I should make it even more well-ventilated, somehow. I don't know
> though; you get dew forming on grass, outside, and "outside" is VERY well-
> ventilated! :)
>
parked outside, but not (so often) on one parked under a carport. Point
your infrared thermometer at a clear night sky, and you'll see why your
garage roof, or your car windscreen, is desperate to radiate to it,
causing its temperature to drop below that of the air above and below it.
--
Kevin
john stone
Dec 21, 2012, 5:18:05 AM12/21/12
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"Kevin" <2011OMIT_T...@mainbeam.co.uk> wrote in message
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we bought a steel garden shed and had the same problem. manufacturers said
to lay thin sheets of polyurathene foam right up against the roof and it
completely solved the condensation problem.
Bert Coules
Dec 23, 2012, 9:13:19 AM12/23/12
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Kevin wrote:
> If I could be bothered, and thought I'd be here for a few more years, I'd
> either re-roof it in insulated box-section steel or try anti-condensation
> paint, which I understand works by providing an absorbent layer.
I'd not heard of anti-condensation paint, so thanks for the mention. A
> If I could be bothered, and thought I'd be here for a few more years, I'd
> either re-roof it in insulated box-section steel or try anti-condensation
> paint, which I understand works by providing an absorbent layer.
friend's garage (sectional concrete with corrugated metal roof) is plagued
with this condensation problem: perhaps a specialist paint would help. I'll
investigate.
Bert
JakeD
Dec 23, 2012, 12:30:33 PM12/23/12
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"Bert Coules" <ma...@bertcoules.co.uk> wrote in
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Painting the inderside of the roofing sheets with polyurethane foam might
be even more effective?
JakeD
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be even more effective?
JakeD
Bert Coules
Dec 23, 2012, 12:40:57 PM12/23/12
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JakeD wrote:
> Painting the inderside of the roofing sheets with polyurethane foam might
> be even more effective?
Do you mean the expanding foam filler stuff? Can you paint with that?
> Painting the inderside of the roofing sheets with polyurethane foam might
> be even more effective?
Perhaps I've just been unlucky (or cack-handed) but my experience with it
has not been happy: it goes (and sticks) all over the place and the can
becomes unusuable after only a few squirts.
Andy Dingley
Dec 23, 2012, 1:37:24 PM12/23/12
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On Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:46:29 PM UTC, JakeD wrote:
> Are there any tricks I can employ to stop the condensation?
Almost anything, singly or in combination, is useful.
* Reduce the moisture indoors. Seal leaks, paint floors, fit a dehumidifier.
* Reduce the chill effect of the roof by improving its insulation. Hard work, but worth it for workshops.
* Reduce the moisture getting near the roof sheets. Just polythene sheet (or bubblewrap) stapled across the joists and with an inch or two clear of the roof is worth doing. If all else fails, it will at least tend to trap the condensation drips and route them to the edges!
AL_n
Dec 29, 2012, 9:20:56 PM12/29/12
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"Bert Coules" <ma...@bertcoules.co.uk> wrote in
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specialise in spraying it onto the underside of roofs.
Al
Bert Coules
Dec 30, 2012, 6:18:40 AM12/30/12
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"AL_n" wrote:
> It can be sprayed on (given the right equipment). There are companies that
> specialise in spraying it onto the underside of roofs.
I've come across that for house roofs but not for the sort of corrugated
> It can be sprayed on (given the right equipment). There are companies that
> specialise in spraying it onto the underside of roofs.
metal garage roof that I was referring to here: I was thinking more of a DIY
solution. But I'll investigate, thanks.
Bert
Tony
Jan 30, 2018, 4:44:05 PM1/30/18
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replying to Kevin, Tony wrote:
Hi I have the same problem with my corrugated garage roof which has been cold
tar sealed on the outside and painted with Matt emulsion on the inside which
now explains all the condensation from the water based emulsion. I notice the
roofing sheets from the door to midway roughly dry out (no dripping) when I
have the garage door up for about 3-4 hours suggesting air circulation. Any
advice gratefully received Tony
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Hi I have the same problem with my corrugated garage roof which has been cold
tar sealed on the outside and painted with Matt emulsion on the inside which
now explains all the condensation from the water based emulsion. I notice the
roofing sheets from the door to midway roughly dry out (no dripping) when I
have the garage door up for about 3-4 hours suggesting air circulation. Any
advice gratefully received Tony
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tabb...@gmail.com
Jan 30, 2018, 5:43:04 PM1/30/18
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On Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:44:05 UTC, Tony wrote:
> Hi I have the same problem with my corrugated garage roof which has been cold
> tar sealed on the outside and painted with Matt emulsion on the inside which
> now explains all the condensation from the water based emulsion. I notice the
> roofing sheets from the door to midway roughly dry out (no dripping) when I
> have the garage door up for about 3-4 hours suggesting air circulation. Any
> advice gratefully received Tony
You need to reduce RH. Your condensation has nothing to do with the roof's coatings. There are 3 ways to reduce RH:
> Hi I have the same problem with my corrugated garage roof which has been cold
> tar sealed on the outside and painted with Matt emulsion on the inside which
> now explains all the condensation from the water based emulsion. I notice the
> roofing sheets from the door to midway roughly dry out (no dripping) when I
> have the garage door up for about 3-4 hours suggesting air circulation. Any
> advice gratefully received Tony
1. Ventilation
2. Heat
3. Dehumidifier
Relying on ventilation alone is likely to result in dampness when outdoor conditions are damp. Heat costs. Dehumidifiers are cheap to run, but cost to buy of course.
If it's insulated, computer controlled heat just to limit RH to 80% is also an option. Ask Andrew Gabriel.
NT
Brian Gaff
Jan 31, 2018, 2:19:52 AM1/31/18
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posted on December 19, 2012, 8:46 pm
Ahem.
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adjacent workshop I fitted with a modern corrugated metal roof. In
colder weather lots of condensation would drip from the underside. It
was much worse in icy weather, when ice would build up, then thaw as
the weather warmed. I fixed it entirely by the addition of fire
retardant expanded polystyrene insulation sheets, pushed up tight
against the underside.
> You need to reduce RH. Your condensation has nothing to do with the roof's
> coatings. There are 3 ways to reduce RH:
It can have a lot to do with lack of any insulation. My garage and
> coatings. There are 3 ways to reduce RH:
adjacent workshop I fitted with a modern corrugated metal roof. In
colder weather lots of condensation would drip from the underside. It
was much worse in icy weather, when ice would build up, then thaw as
the weather warmed. I fixed it entirely by the addition of fire
retardant expanded polystyrene insulation sheets, pushed up tight
against the underside.
Amanda Mdlulwa
Jul 22, 2019, 11:14:04 AM7/22/19
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replying to john stone, Amanda Mdlulwa wrote:
> thin sheets of polyurathene foam
Hi where did you buy the sheet?
> thin sheets of polyurathene foam
Andrew
Jul 22, 2019, 11:19:33 AM7/22/19
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On 22/07/2019 16:14, Amanda Mdlulwa wrote:
> replying to john stone, Amanda Mdlulwa wrote:
>> thin sheets of polyurathene foam
> Hi where did you buy the sheet?
>
>
Woolworths ?.
> replying to john stone, Amanda Mdlulwa wrote:
>> thin sheets of polyurathene foam
> Hi where did you buy the sheet?
>
>
Brian Gaff
Jul 22, 2019, 11:28:29 AM7/22/19
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Yes if anyone still has asbestos roofing good luck, its almost all gone
around here and why? Because it gets brittle and cracks and is a sod to get
rid of.
How old is this thread.
Brian
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rid of.
How old is this thread.
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In article <qh4kmr$mpd$1...@news.albasani.net>, Brian Gaff
when we bought then house in 1977.
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> Yes if anyone still has asbestos roofing good luck, its almost all gone
> around here and why? Because it gets brittle and cracks and is a sod to
> get rid of. How old is this thread. Brian
Our garage has an asbestos-cement roof. 1975 vintage I think. It was here
> Yes if anyone still has asbestos roofing good luck, its almost all gone
> around here and why? Because it gets brittle and cracks and is a sod to
> get rid of. How old is this thread. Brian
when we bought then house in 1977.
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Jim GM4DHJ ...
Jul 22, 2019, 5:21:10 PM7/22/19
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On 22/07/2019 16:14, Amanda Mdlulwa wrote:
> replying to john stone, Amanda Mdlulwa wrote:
>> thin sheets of polyurathene foam
> Hi where did you buy the sheet?
>
>
stick on 2L2
>> thin sheets of polyurathene foam
> Hi where did you buy the sheet?
>
>
billyor...@gmail.com
Jul 23, 2019, 4:32:35 AM7/23/19
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Personally I would not be concerned about the timber being rotted as I would imagine it would dry out once the condensation had gone and it will probably outlast the asbestos roof anyway
Bev
Dec 9, 2022, 2:31:25 PM12/9/22
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I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards to this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between and we have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in 1949. My neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the condensation in mine generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked and tidy my ele tics have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added factor to the build up of condensation in my outhouse and what can I do ! .
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John Rumm
Dec 9, 2022, 4:24:08 PM12/9/22
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On 09/12/2022 19:31, Bev wrote:
> I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards
> to this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between
> and we have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in
> 1949. My neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the
> condensation in mine generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked
> and tidy my ele tics have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added
> factor to the build up of condensation in my outhouse and what can I do
> ! .
Insulate the roof, fit a false ceiling under the insulation, and make
> I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards
> to this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between
> and we have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in
> 1949. My neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the
> condensation in mine generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked
> and tidy my ele tics have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added
> factor to the build up of condensation in my outhouse and what can I do
> ! .
sure there is a vapour barrier above the ceiling. That will help
greatly. A little bit of background heating in there to keep it above
the dew point will also help.
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Theo
Dec 9, 2022, 4:30:09 PM12/9/22
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Bev <c65b180e2e4a52ea...@example.com> wrote:
> I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards to
> this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between and we
> have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in 1949. My
> neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the condensation in mine
> generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked and tidy my ele tics
> have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added factor to the build up of
> condensation in my outhouse and what can I do ! .
If there's a way for moist air to get from his side to your side, then maybe
> I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards to
> this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between and we
> have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in 1949. My
> neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the condensation in mine
> generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked and tidy my ele tics
> have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added factor to the build up of
> condensation in my outhouse and what can I do ! .
it would make your side damp.
Look at sealing up any gaps first of all (eg expanding foam), and putting up
insulation (eg foil backed boards) so there aren't such cold surfaces for
moisture to condense on.
Theo
Animal
Dec 10, 2022, 6:43:40 PM12/10/22
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On Friday, 9 December 2022 at 21:24:08 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
> On 09/12/2022 19:31, Bev wrote:
> > I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards
> > to this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between
> > and we have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in
> > 1949. My neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the
> > condensation in mine generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked
> > and tidy my ele tics have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added
> > factor to the build up of condensation in my outhouse and what can I do
> > ! .
> Insulate the roof, fit a false ceiling under the insulation, and make
> sure there is a vapour barrier above the ceiling. That will help
> greatly. A little bit of background heating in there to keep it above
> the dew point will also help.
That won't stop tools rusting & electrics shorting. Vent their drier outside.
> On 09/12/2022 19:31, Bev wrote:
> > I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards
> > to this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between
> > and we have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in
> > 1949. My neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the
> > condensation in mine generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked
> > and tidy my ele tics have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added
> > factor to the build up of condensation in my outhouse and what can I do
> > ! .
> Insulate the roof, fit a false ceiling under the insulation, and make
> sure there is a vapour barrier above the ceiling. That will help
> greatly. A little bit of background heating in there to keep it above
> the dew point will also help.
Animal
Dec 10, 2022, 6:45:37 PM12/10/22
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chop
Dec 10, 2022, 8:59:32 PM12/10/22
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 06:31:22 +1100, Bev
<c65b180e2e4a52ea...@example.com> wrote:
> I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards
> to this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between
> and we have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in
> 1949. My neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the
> condensation in mine generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked
> and tidy my ele tics have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added
> factor to the build up of condensation in my outhouse and what can I do
> ! .
Keep killing his tumble dryer until he gives up replacing it.
<c65b180e2e4a52ea...@example.com> wrote:
> I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards
> to this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between
> and we have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in
> 1949. My neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the
> condensation in mine generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked
> and tidy my ele tics have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added
> factor to the build up of condensation in my outhouse and what can I do
> ! .
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Dec 11, 2022, 3:56:18 AM12/11/22
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Dec 11, 2022, 5:31:54 AM12/11/22
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And spray the metal tools with WD 40:-)
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John Rumm
Dec 11, 2022, 7:50:25 AM12/11/22
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and slow rusting of tools.
> Vent their drier outside.
One would need to check what venting arrangement the neighbour has made.
If they are venting the TD into their outhouse, then some vapour might
make it through the party wall. Again insulate and vapour barrier will
Animal
Dec 11, 2022, 6:49:54 PM12/11/22
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On Sunday, 11 December 2022 at 12:50:25 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
> On 10/12/2022 23:43, Animal wrote:
> > On Friday, 9 December 2022 at 21:24:08 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
> >> On 09/12/2022 19:31, Bev wrote:
> >>> I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards
> >>> to this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between
> >>> and we have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in
> >>> 1949. My neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the
> >>> condensation in mine generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked
> >>> and tidy my ele tics have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added
> >>> factor to the build up of condensation in my outhouse and what can I do
> >>> ! .
> >> Insulate the roof, fit a false ceiling under the insulation, and make
> >> sure there is a vapour barrier above the ceiling. That will help
> >> greatly. A little bit of background heating in there to keep it above
> >> the dew point will also help.
> >
> > That won't stop tools rusting & electrics shorting.
> Keeping the space above the dew point will greatly reduce condensation,
> and slow rusting of tools.
Yes. The possible routes to that are:
> On 10/12/2022 23:43, Animal wrote:
> > On Friday, 9 December 2022 at 21:24:08 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
> >> On 09/12/2022 19:31, Bev wrote:
> >>> I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards
> >>> to this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between
> >>> and we have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in
> >>> 1949. My neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the
> >>> condensation in mine generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked
> >>> and tidy my ele tics have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added
> >>> factor to the build up of condensation in my outhouse and what can I do
> >>> ! .
> >> Insulate the roof, fit a false ceiling under the insulation, and make
> >> sure there is a vapour barrier above the ceiling. That will help
> >> greatly. A little bit of background heating in there to keep it above
> >> the dew point will also help.
> >
> > That won't stop tools rusting & electrics shorting.
> Keeping the space above the dew point will greatly reduce condensation,
> and slow rusting of tools.
1. increase temp
- unlikely to work when lots of water is being dumped into the space, it will more likely just delay condensation
2. reduce water vapour
- blocking ventilation & trying to stop roof condensation both do the opposite of that
3. stop water vapour at the source, ie vent or disable the machine
> > Vent their drier outside.
>
> One would need to check what venting arrangement the neighbour has made.
> If they are venting the TD into their outhouse, then some vapour might
> make it through the party wall. Again insulate and vapour barrier will
> help.
Theo
Dec 12, 2022, 9:13:37 AM12/12/22
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Animal <tabb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 9 December 2022 at 21:30:09 UTC, Theo wrote:
> > Bev <c65b180e2e4a52ea...@example.com> wrote:
> > > I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards to
> > > this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between and we
> > > have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in 1949. My
> > > neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the condensation in mine
> > > generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked and tidy my ele tics
> > > have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added factor to the build up of
> > > condensation in my outhouse and what can I do ! .
> > If there's a way for moist air to get from his side to your side, then maybe
> > it would make your side damp.
> >
> > Look at sealing up any gaps first of all (eg expanding foam), and putting up
> > insulation (eg foil backed boards) so there aren't such cold surfaces for
> > moisture to condense on.
>
> On Friday, 9 December 2022 at 21:30:09 UTC, Theo wrote:
> > Bev <c65b180e2e4a52ea...@example.com> wrote:
> > > I see that this was posted9 years ago but I need some help with regards to
> > > this. I have a joined outhouse with the neighbour wall in between and we
> > > have asbestos roofing... the house and outhouse was built in 1949. My
> > > neighbour has a tumble dryer in his and I notice the condensation in mine
> > > generally when he has it on. My tools get soaked and tidy my ele tics
> > > have gone. Will his tumble dryer be an added factor to the build up of
> > > condensation in my outhouse and what can I do ! .
> > If there's a way for moist air to get from his side to your side, then maybe
> > it would make your side damp.
> >
> > Look at sealing up any gaps first of all (eg expanding foam), and putting up
> > insulation (eg foil backed boards) so there aren't such cold surfaces for
> > moisture to condense on.
>
> That would make it worse. Gaps reduce water vapour,
If the gaps are where damp air is coming in from next door (eg the roof
doesn't tightly seal to the partition wall), then blocking the gaps will
reduce the moisture coming through. I agree that having some fresh air
ventilation will reduce moisture buildup - in an outhouse you often have
that by default.
> and cold surfaces dehumidify to a small extent.
Theo
Animal
Dec 13, 2022, 5:24:29 PM12/13/22
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