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Cable for AEG induction hob - closest option to 6mm at 90*?

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Eusebius

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Dec 5, 2016, 9:18:02 AM12/5/16
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I've trawled the Net for opinions on this, and the specified 6mm cable at 90* doesn't seem to exist in general supply. The manual refers to H05V2V2-FT

General opinion is don't fit common twin and earth - needs heat resistant cable.

Closest I can find so far is H07 which is 6mm rated +85*.

Anything closer?

Tim Watts

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Dec 5, 2016, 9:43:35 AM12/5/16
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I think the chances of it exceeding 85C (vs 90C) at the terminals is
pretty minimal for an induction hob so H07 would probably be fine.

People traditionally wire up cookers in 6mm2 T+E anyway - so heat
resistant cable of any sort is a luxury :)

Dave Plowman (News)

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Dec 5, 2016, 9:55:13 AM12/5/16
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In article <i1bghd-...@squidward.local.dionic.net>,
Tim Watts <tw_u...@dionic.net> wrote:
> On 05/12/16 14:17, Eusebius wrote:
> > I've trawled the Net for opinions on this, and the specified 6mm cable
> > at 90* doesn't seem to exist in general supply. The manual refers to
> > H05V2V2-FT
> >
> > General opini Wis don't fit common twin and earth - needs heat
> > resistant cable.
> >
> > Closest I can find so far is H07 which is 6mm rated +85*.
> >
> > Anything closer?
> >

> I think the chances of it exceeding 85C (vs 90C) at the terminals is
> pretty minimal for an induction hob so H07 would probably be fine.

> People traditionally wire up cookers in 6mm2 T+E anyway - so heat
> resistant cable of any sort is a luxury :)

It would be a pretty poor design of hob that exceeded 90C on the body, I'd
say.

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Eusebius

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Dec 5, 2016, 10:06:30 AM12/5/16
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After several hours of research, I found this which is by far the closest and sold by the metre, so it's ordered and paid for. Seems good to 85* at least.

http://www.sparkydirect.co.uk/product/103/20390/6383TQ6_M/Cable-3-Core-600mm-Butyle-Heat-Resisting-Flex-Black--Cut-Length-Sold-Per-Metre/index.html

There are several threads on connecting induction hobs which are rated around 7Kw and plenty of discussion. I hope the above helps.

H07 is rated 60* so that's close but not as good.

I did find this in one thread:

"Called to look at an electric hob which was tripping the MCB. I found that the 6mm T+E was severely burnt at the hob terminals and had also burnt the plastic terminal moulding. The customer was pretty annoyed at what i found as it could well have caused a fire. He wanted to know how this could happen and who's insurers to contact. After a bit of digging around, i found that the install instruction called for HO5RR-F to be used."

dennis@home

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Dec 5, 2016, 10:42:36 AM12/5/16
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On 05/12/2016 15:06, Eusebius wrote:
> After several hours of research, I found this which is by far the
> closest and sold by the metre, so it's ordered and paid for. Seems
> good to 85* at least.
>
> http://www.sparkydirect.co.uk/product/103/20390/6383TQ6_M/Cable-3-Core-600mm-Butyle-Heat-Resisting-Flex-Black--Cut-Length-Sold-Per-Metre/index.html
>
> There are several threads on connecting induction hobs which are
> rated around 7Kw and plenty of discussion. I hope the above helps.
>
> H07 is rated 60* so that's close but not as good.

Bosh ones come with a lead fitted.
You would think they all would at the price they are.


Dave Plowman (News)

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Dec 5, 2016, 11:41:34 AM12/5/16
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In article <7471a26f-b250-4285...@googlegroups.com>,
Eusebius <performan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Called to look at an electric hob which was tripping the MCB. I found
> that the 6mm T+E was severely burnt at the hob terminals and had also
> burnt the plastic terminal moulding. The customer was pretty annoyed at
> what i found as it could well have caused a fire. He wanted to know how
> this could happen and who's insurers to contact. After a bit of digging
> around, i found that the install instruction called for HO5RR-F to be
> used."

If the terminal moulding had melted too sounds far more like a poor
connection than the cable overheating.

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harry

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Dec 5, 2016, 11:58:50 AM12/5/16
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Loose connection.

Ordinary T&E has been used to connect cookers for fifty years to my personal knowledge.
Put a bit of heat resistant sleeving over the ends it makes you feel better. But not ususally done

Graham.

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Dec 6, 2016, 6:53:19 AM12/6/16
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If the connecters weren't tightened up properly in the first place, it
would matter little what cable was used.

I wonder if a loss adjuster would take the same view though.


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newshound

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Dec 6, 2016, 7:10:40 AM12/6/16
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That sounds like the problem to me too. Going off at a tangent, silicone
insulated wire is readily available in various colours and modest
lengths from eBay (typically used in radio controlled electric cars). I
use this as "tails" on some immersion heaters in a light industrial
application because I find that "normal" butyl heat resisting three-core
hardens over time, even with good contacts.

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