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D.M.Chapman

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Feb 20, 2016, 4:33:48 PM2/20/16
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Hi all,

Looking to kit out an unfurnished house in the near future - tempted to find
stuff on Gumtree or similar but a fridge freezer seems a bit much to get in
the back of my mondeo?

Are they generally ok if laid down these days, as long as they are left to
stand for a while? Was that ever really a problem or just an urban legend?

Saying that, anyone got experience of fitting a fridge freezer into the
back of a m4 mondeo hatchback? I think it should fit... but I've not measured
yet :-) I could hire a van, but that rapidly starts to eat into the savings
made by buying second hand, and I'd be more tempted to just get a new one
with warranty etc in that case.

If I do end up buying new, any recommendations (or more importantly, what to
avoid?). Looking for a fridge freezer, a washing machine (possibly washer
dryer - are they any good these days?) and a microwave for now...

Cheers,

Darren

Tim+

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Feb 20, 2016, 5:21:30 PM2/20/16
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D.M.Chapman <d...@auk.kent.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Looking to kit out an unfurnished house in the near future - tempted to find
> stuff on Gumtree or similar but a fridge freezer seems a bit much to get in
> the back of my mondeo?
>
> Are they generally ok if laid down these days, as long as they are left to
> stand for a while? Was that ever really a problem or just an urban legend?
>

I suspect urban legend. Leave to stand if you like but I would just plug in
and see if freezer coils start getting cold. If they are getting cold
straight away then no problem. Otherwise, just leave for a period and try
again.

Tim

Andrew Gabriel

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Feb 20, 2016, 5:31:02 PM2/20/16
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In article <naalu7$ust$1...@dont-email.me>,
d...@auk.kent.ac.uk (D.M.Chapman) writes:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Looking to kit out an unfurnished house in the near future - tempted to find
> stuff on Gumtree or similar but a fridge freezer seems a bit much to get in
> the back of my mondeo?
>
> Are they generally ok if laid down these days, as long as they are left to
> stand for a while? Was that ever really a problem or just an urban legend?

I laid a freezer on its side to replace the insulation on the bottom.
I left it standing upright for many hours afterwards before turning on,
but it didn't survive - motor burned out, which is the failure mode after
doing this.

Afterwards (too late), I got suggestions from Hotpoint on what to do if
a freezer has been tipped significantly off-vertical. Turn it on only
for 30 seconds or so every 10 mins over a period, which may get the
refrigerant/lubricant back to where they should be. My other thought
after the event was to make sure the pipework from the compressor to
the condenser (hot rear element) gets hot, as the failure results in
the heat not being removed from the compressor motor so it overheats
internally. The compressor and motor are cooled by the refrigetant
taking the heat away to the condenser. You might also run it on a
power meter to check the power consumption is not excessive (locked
rotor), or on a low value fuse (although that's not long-term viable
as locked rotor is expected from time-to-time, which will cause
power consumption of more than 3kW for a few seconds, and will blow
a low valued fuse).

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Tim+

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Feb 20, 2016, 5:42:14 PM2/20/16
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A lot simpler to check "is it getting cold"? If not, turn it off and try
again later. Leaving it on when it clearly isn't working is a recipe for
motor burn out. It ain't rocket science, just common sense.

Tim

Chris French

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Feb 20, 2016, 5:49:09 PM2/20/16
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d...@auk.kent.ac.uk (D.M.Chapman) Wrote in message:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Looking to kit out an unfurnished house in the near future - tempted to find
> stuff on Gumtree or similar but a fridge freezer seems a bit much to get in
> the back of my mondeo?
>
> Are they generally ok if laid down these days, as long as they are left to
> stand for a while? Was that ever really a problem or just an urban legend?
>
> Saying that, anyone got experience of fitting a fridge freezer into the
> back of a m4 mondeo hatchback? I think it should fit... but I've not measured
> yet :-)

Some years back I got a large fridge (5 -6 ft) in it's packaging
into the back of a Fiat Punto, so probably OK in a
mondeo.

>
> If I do end up buying new, any recommendations (or more importantly, what to
> avoid?). Looking for a fridge freezer, a washing machine (possibly washer
> dryer - are they any good these days?) and a microwave for now...
>


Is this a rental property?

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spuorg...@gowanhill.com

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Feb 20, 2016, 6:00:44 PM2/20/16
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On Saturday, 20 February 2016 21:33:48 UTC, D.M.Chapman wrote:
> If I do end up buying new, any recommendations (or more importantly, what to
> avoid?). Looking for a fridge freezer, a washing machine

If you want brand name new, then see if there's anything at
www.hotpointclearance.co.uk
and check Moneysavingexpert for any voucher codes.

Or go into Currys and look at the scratch'n'dent section, and haggle hard. Sign up to the insurance scam if you have to to get discount - you can cancel the direct debit with your bank the following month. I got a Currys Essentials F/F for £150.

> (possibly washer dryer - are they any good these days?)

Not really, they still only do a half load on drying.

> and a microwave for now...

£30 with manual turn knobs from whichever supermarket has them this week.

If you have a furniture recyling place near you then you may be able to kit out the whole house for a couple of hundred quid for the essentials.

Owain

ss

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Feb 20, 2016, 7:11:24 PM2/20/16
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Be careful what you furnish the house with as you are responsible for
for every single thing that aint right (in the renters eyes). the less
white goods the better in my opinion.

tabb...@gmail.com

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Feb 20, 2016, 11:10:18 PM2/20/16
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On Saturday, 20 February 2016 21:33:48 UTC, D.M.Chapman wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Looking to kit out an unfurnished house in the near future - tempted to find
> stuff on Gumtree or similar but a fridge freezer seems a bit much to get in
> the back of my mondeo?

really?

> Are they generally ok if laid down these days, as long as they are left to
> stand for a while? Was that ever really a problem

yes & yes.

> Saying that, anyone got experience of fitting a fridge freezer into the
> back of a m4 mondeo hatchback? I think it should fit... but I've not measured
> yet :-)

measure it then silly!

> I could hire a van, but that rapidly starts to eat into the savings

pointless. If you had a smart or something you might need an estate car taxi


> If I do end up buying new, any recommendations (or more importantly, what to
> avoid?). Looking for a fridge freezer,

The only one I'd steer away from is Proline

> a washing machine (possibly washer
> dryer - are they any good these days?)

I don't see the point of them, and no they're not really. Spend the extra on a ceiling fan and the clothes will dry quickly. Fit it somewhere where it can be left on for an hour in winter without bothering anyone.
Bosch seem a very low TCO option, and reliable enough.

> and a microwave for now...

Old ones are vastly more long lived than some supermarket junker. Just avoid anything 1970s or older on safety grounds. Newer ones haven't advanced technologically since the early 80s. Knobs are more reliable than electronic controls. 10 power levels are useful about once per century. 5 covers everything else, and 2 does the vast majority of stuff. Avoid any with no turntable, they just can't cook evenly.


NT

Rod Speed

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Feb 20, 2016, 11:43:38 PM2/20/16
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<tabb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Bullshit.

> Knobs are more reliable than electronic controls.

Never had any of the electronic controls on mine fail.

Graham.

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Feb 21, 2016, 12:00:37 AM2/21/16
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A stainless steel cooking cavity is the is the most important
attribute to look for in a microwave in my view.


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tabb...@gmail.com

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Feb 21, 2016, 12:32:57 AM2/21/16
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On Sunday, 21 February 2016 04:43:38 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
> <tabbypurr> wrote in message
idiot troll thinks a sample of 6 tells him everything.

News

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Feb 21, 2016, 3:33:01 AM2/21/16
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In message <naalu7$ust$1...@dont-email.me>, D.M.Chapman
<d...@auk.kent.ac.uk> writes
>
>If I do end up buying new, any recommendations (or more importantly, what to
>avoid?). Looking for a fridge freezer, a washing machine (possibly washer
>dryer - are they any good these days?) and a microwave for now...

Years ago, I would dedicate many long hours to reading Which? reports
and reviews before buying anything electrical. These days, the choice
of reviews, many contradictory, is huge, with the Net. I've given up,
and just buy whatever is on special offer at Tesco or similar. PC, DVD
player, VCR, dishwasher, washing machine. microwave, vacuum cleaner and
more have all been special offers, and no regrets so far. We did have a
TV with VCR fail [1] a few years ago. Tesco delivered a replacement and
took away the failed machine a couple of days later, without question or
charge.

[1] After the failed VCR was taken away, our then young son was in
tears, as he lost his little toy car ...
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Rod Speed

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Feb 21, 2016, 3:49:16 AM2/21/16
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"Graham." <graham...@mail.com> wrote in message
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None of mine are stainless steel and they all work fine.
One of them has been doing that for over 40 years now
and is still the microwave I used for most meals.

Rod Speed

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Feb 21, 2016, 3:49:58 AM2/21/16
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<tabb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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We all swooned at your sample.

D.M.Chapman

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Feb 21, 2016, 4:23:34 AM2/21/16
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In article <C36yy.670865$ey.4...@fx45.am4>,
Chris French <new...@familyfrench.co.uk> wrote:
>d...@auk.kent.ac.uk (D.M.Chapman) Wrote in message:
>
>Some years back I got a large fridge (5 -6 ft) in it's packaging
> into the back of a Fiat Punto, so probably OK in a
> mondeo.

heh, thanks.

>> If I do end up buying new, any recommendations (or more importantly, what to
>> avoid?). Looking for a fridge freezer, a washing machine (possibly washer
>> dryer - are they any good these days?) and a microwave for now...
>
>
Is this a rental property?

Yes, why?

I'm keeping an eye on gumtree, and can probably pick up stuff cheap there
if I can shift things in the car. If it needs van hire, then the logistics
get less tempting.

Cheers,

Darren

D.M.Chapman

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Feb 21, 2016, 4:27:07 AM2/21/16
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In article <nabvh1$n04$1...@dont-email.me>,
D.M.Chapman <d...@auk.kent.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
Is this a rental property?
>
>Yes, why?


Following up on myself (bad form, I know), but I think I've realised why you
ask. Yes, it's a rental property, but I'm renting it - I'm not the landlord.

Cheers,

Darren

Chris French

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Feb 21, 2016, 4:44:49 AM2/21/16
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d...@auk.kent.ac.uk (D.M.Chapman) Wrote in message:
Ah, OK, I was thinking you might be the landlord.

Brands, I seem to have developed a predilection for Bosch. Their
stuff seems pretty reliable, and customer service is pretty
good.

I helped someone kit out a new flat and they found eBay a pretty
good source as well (searching locally of course).

I've never owned a washer drier, but have used them , but don't
find they perform very well. I think i would only want to use one
occasionally for drying s few things. I use a dehumidifier for
drying laundry and that has worked well to speed up the drying
whilst not using the amount of energy a tumble drier does. Best
in some sort enclosed space or shut room.

Stuart Noble

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Feb 21, 2016, 6:59:06 AM2/21/16
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> I use a dehumidifier for
> drying laundry and that has worked well to speed up the drying
> whilst not using the amount of energy a tumble drier does. Best
> in some sort enclosed space or shut room.
>
Interesting. Are there models designed specifically for that? A tumble
action maybe?

D.M.Chapman

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Feb 22, 2016, 2:24:26 PM2/22/16
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In article <119b2d8d-87c0-47a7...@googlegroups.com>,
<spuorg...@gowanhill.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, 20 February 2016 21:33:48 UTC, D.M.Chapman wrote:

>Or go into Currys and look at the scratch'n'dent section, and haggle
>hard. Sign up to the insurance scam if you have to to get discount - you
>can cancel the direct debit with your bank the following month. I got a
>Currys Essentials F/F for £150.

Interesting. Didn't realise they had a clearance section - will go look in
the local one. Ta.


>If you have a furniture recyling place near you then you may be able to
>kit out the whole house for a couple of hundred quid for the essentials.

yep, found a few bits already. Gumtree also seems to turn up some gems if
you are willing to go pick up stuff quickly.

Cheers,

Darren

Mr Macaw

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Feb 22, 2016, 2:31:15 PM2/22/16
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You can get a chest freezer in the back of a 3 door hatchback on its side no problem, just tie the tailgate down to the towbar/towing bracket/exhaust pipe mount.

And I thought everybody knew about moving them. If you shift a fridge or freezer significantly (as in carrying it about in a car, not just sliding it from one side of the room to the other) and keep it upright, leave it to stand for 6 hours. If you turn it over, leave it for 24 hours.

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Just Me

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Feb 22, 2016, 4:04:00 PM2/22/16
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More bollocks.
The clown of Usenet has spoken.
The unemployable prick with a degree has once more spewed his shit onto this
group.
Either go get a job or die and save the nation your dole money,
PHuckerWanker.






tabb...@gmail.com

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Feb 23, 2016, 12:31:16 AM2/23/16
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On Monday, 22 February 2016 19:31:15 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 21:30:47 -0000, D.M.Chapman <d...@auk.kent.ac.uk> wrote:

> > Looking to kit out an unfurnished house in the near future - tempted to find
> > stuff on Gumtree or similar but a fridge freezer seems a bit much to get in
> > the back of my mondeo?


> > Saying that, anyone got experience of fitting a fridge freezer into the
> > back of a m4 mondeo hatchback? I think it should fit... but I've not measured

> You can get a chest freezer in the back of a 3 door hatchback on its side no problem, just tie the tailgate down to the towbar/towing bracket/exhaust pipe mount.
>
> And I thought everybody knew about moving them. If you shift a fridge or freezer significantly (as in carrying it about in a car, not just sliding it from one side of the room to the other) and keep it upright, leave it to stand for 6 hours. If you turn it over, leave it for 24 hours.

You can get one on a motorbike too:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=fridge+OR+freezer+motorbike


NT

Mr Macaw

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Feb 23, 2016, 4:28:46 PM2/23/16
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I assume you meant this: https://youtu.be/upAPQ4byp4M
That's some balance!

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