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News

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Apr 21, 2014, 4:47:55 PM4/21/14
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How far away is considered 'safe'? Favourite site for the traditional
charcoal BBQ is about six feet away from the domestic oil tank. Would
that be safe or silly?
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Tim Watts

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Apr 21, 2014, 5:01:04 PM4/21/14
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Heating oil is pretty hard to ignite. I'm more worried about tinder dry
fine material.

But I could not say of 6ft would make me nervous or not...

Adrian

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Apr 21, 2014, 5:19:35 PM4/21/14
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Metal or plastic tank?

News

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Apr 21, 2014, 5:12:58 PM4/21/14
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In message <ghdg2b-...@squidward.local.dionic.net>, Tim Watts
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>On 21/04/14 21:47, News wrote:
>>
>> How far away is considered 'safe'? Favourite site for the traditional
>> charcoal BBQ is about six feet away from the domestic oil tank. Would
>> that be safe or silly?
>
>Heating oil is pretty hard to ignite. I'm more worried about tinder dry
>fine material.

Not too much tinder dry material in NE Scotland :-)
>
>But I could not say of 6ft would make me nervous or not...

It doesn't make me nervous as such - just aware.

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Dave Liquorice

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Apr 21, 2014, 5:54:56 PM4/21/14
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 22:01:04 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:

>> How far away is considered 'safe'?

The elves will probably say there is no safe distance.

>> Favourite site for the traditional charcoal BBQ is about six feet
away
>> from the domestic oil tank. Would that be safe or silly?
>
> Heating oil is pretty hard to ignite.

Once vapourised it will go or burn on a wick. It's far easier to
light than diesel, petrol just don't go there...

Metal tank I'd not be worried at all at 6'. Plastic I'd be aware of a
remote possibilty of it getting warm in a small area and possibly
deforming. That would weaken the tank. So I'd either check the tank
every so often (and be surprised to find a significantly warmer area)
or have the windshield of the BBQ blocking any direct infrared path
from BBQ to tank.

Is "traditional BBQ" the two halves of a 45 gallon oil drum end to
end filled with 6" deep plus of burning charcoal or one of those
little 18" diameter things?

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Brian Gaff

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Apr 22, 2014, 3:16:08 AM4/22/14
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That depends on what the terrain is like, ie is it flammable plants, or is
there a clear area around the tank.
I've seen people have them that close and with no problems. the danger time
is when lighting it. I'm assuming its not a gas one.

On another note, I can always tell when its been a nice day, the fresh
evening air makes you cough with all the burnt offerings being 'cooked'
Brian

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Dave Liquorice

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Apr 22, 2014, 5:06:20 AM4/22/14
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:16:08 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

> On another note, I can always tell when its been a nice day, the fresh
> evening air makes you cough with all the burnt offerings being
> 'cooked'

That is one thing we don't miss about living on a town estate. Any
reasonable warm summers evening and out would come the BBQ's behind
every second house, followed by reduced visibilty due to smoke and a
horrendous stench.

At least the smell from the Foot & Mouth pyres 30 miles away back in
2001 was vaugely for roasting meat.

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PeterC

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Apr 22, 2014, 5:53:18 AM4/22/14
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:16:08 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:

> That depends on what the terrain is like, ie is it flammable plants, or is
> there a clear area around the tank.
> I've seen people have them that close and with no problems. the danger time
> is when lighting it. I'm assuming its not a gas one.
>
> On another note, I can always tell when its been a nice day, the fresh
> evening air makes you cough with all the burnt offerings being 'cooked'
> Brian

In a masterpiece of timing, my neighbour lit her BBQ yesterday pm (I was a
bit worried when I saw the petrol can come out!) about 30s before a heavy
shower with hail - BBQ lasted about another 30s!
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News

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Apr 22, 2014, 5:30:51 PM4/22/14
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In message <nyyfbegfubjuvyypb...@srv1.howhill.co.uk>, Dave
Liquorice <allsortsn...@howhill.com> writes
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>Is "traditional BBQ" the two halves of a 45 gallon oil drum end to
>end filled with 6" deep plus of burning charcoal or one of those
>little 18" diameter things?
>
<smile> Nothing so exotic. Traditional as in charcoal, rather than
modern, as in gas. Actually, we're using disposables at present, the
old one having disintegrated at the end of last summer. The perils of a
BBQ loving child in the family.

The plastic oil tank, 1300L, sits on a concrete slab, the slab being
somewhat larger than the tank. The BBQ sits about 6 feet from the tank,
and is never unattended, due to child and dog in the garden. I have
never noticed the tank getting even slightly warm, so am not
particularly concerned. It was fumes that were at the back of my mind,
but that seems not to be a problem.

Thanks for all the comments.

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Bulldog

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replying to Adrian, Bulldog wrote:
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Cynic

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Apr 2, 2020, 3:36:37 AM4/2/20
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This subject really merits one of the classic articles in the vein of the Saniflo or building a canoe with expanding foam.

newshound

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Apr 2, 2020, 4:40:28 AM4/2/20
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On 02/04/2020 08:36, Cynic wrote:
> This subject really merits one of the classic articles in the vein of the Saniflo or building a canoe with expanding foam.
>
Not convinced about that.

Allan

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Apr 2, 2020, 5:33:21 AM4/2/20
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On 02/04/2020 08:36, Cynic wrote:
> This subject really merits one of the classic articles in the vein of the Saniflo or building a canoe with expanding foam.
>

Not in Ambridge anyway

Brian Gaff (Sofa 2)

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Apr 2, 2020, 10:22:58 AM4/2/20
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Oil is not that flammable as it stands.
Brian

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Cynic

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Apr 2, 2020, 11:06:25 AM4/2/20
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I'm sure Peter Parry could use his wordsmithing skills to produce an entertaining version of the barbecue tipping over, hot embers creating penetration of the plastic with escape of kerosene and resulting conflagration. Somehow allow the presence of a mother in law into the narrative?
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