WASPS HOW TO GET RID OF THEM
brian fernandez
THEY SEEM TO HAVE COME BACK IS . WHAT'S THE CHEAPEST WAY TO GET RID OF THEM
FOR ONCE AND ALL PLEASE PLEASE HELP
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> I'VE GOT A WASPS NEST IN THE CORNER OF MY GARDEN, I'VE DUG IT LAST YEAR
BUT
> THEY SEEM TO HAVE COME BACK IS . WHAT'S THE CHEAPEST WAY TO GET RID OF
THEM
> FOR ONCE AND ALL PLEASE PLEASE HELP
Wasps don't like noise - go and shout at them for a while ;o)
Tracy
Conrad Edwards
.not just a bottle of petrol.....
Ed Sirett
brian fernandez wrote in message <8n1evn$kvq$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>I'VE GOT A WASPS NEST IN THE CORNER OF MY GARDEN, I'VE DUG IT LAST YEAR BUT
>THEY SEEM TO HAVE COME BACK IS . WHAT'S THE CHEAPEST WAY TO GET RID OF THEM
>FOR ONCE AND ALL PLEASE PLEASE HELP
>
Well I got rid of some the other week, he's how it was for me, YMMV.
One of my tenants was complaining about the large number of wasps in the
kitchen, when I looked I discover that they (the wasps 8-)) were
entering/leaving under/behind the fascia board below the balcony.
I followed the directions on a tube of wasps' nest killer powder. Do after
sunset, wear protective clothing etc. This tube I had lying around in the
stroe room, but I'm fairly sure that it's readily available at sheds, garden
centres, etc.
I wore googles, gloves, a hooded kagool (sp?), a dust mask, long trousers
etc.
I went up the ladder (8.99p screwfix 500W light helping out by turning night
to day). Puffed about one third of the tube up behind the fascia board. No
wasps came out let alone stung me, decided that next time I would leave the
portable turkish-bath kit off.
Next few days still some wasps entering/leaving but not right where I had
puffed. The instructions said it would need 2 goes anyway.
2nd go. Only wearing normal summer clothes and a dust-mask. Puffed most of
the remainder of the tube behind the soffit, over a bigger range (about +/-
50cm from the obvious hole) one or two drunk and disorientated wasps emerged
coloured white/black.
Next day not one wasp and none since.
HTH
Ed Sirett
Property Maintainer - North London.
Simon Avery
Hello brian
bf> I'VE GOT A WASPS NEST IN THE CORNER OF MY GARDEN, I'VE DUG
bf> IT LAST YEAR BUT THEY SEEM TO HAVE COME BACK IS . WHAT'S THE
bf> CHEAPEST WAY TO GET RID OF THEM FOR ONCE AND ALL PLEASE
bf> PLEASE HELP
Pour a cupful of petrol at or in the entrance hole. Come back next day
to find a neat little pile of yellow and black bodies.
Do NOT light it - not only dangerous but ineffective. The fumes alone
are more effective than a brief flame.
I've had 100% success rate with wasps and bees using just petrol for
the 9 or 10 nests I've dealt with this and last year.
They may come back next year, but fill in the hole once they're gone
and they'll likely find someplace else.
By the way, please don't type in CAPS - it's hard to read and
considered to be shouting. Thanks.
--
Simon Avery, Devon, UK
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woody
<con...@niuska.fsnet.co.uk.nospam> writes
>call the coucil...they've got the right kit.....
>.not just a bottle of petrol.....
>
And in most cases they'll charge you! Here in Harrogate its about
GBP45!
Call the secretary of your local angling club - they'll probably come
and remove it for free to use as bait.
--
Andrew W.
Harrogate, UK
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Dave Liquorice
> call the coucil...they've got the right kit.....
And will charge. I'm rather surprised they came back but if last years was
removed totally that would explain it. The site is obviously desirable from
a wasp POV, but they don't reuse old nests.
> ..not just a bottle of petrol.....
Paraffin is safer and just as effective. No need for a match, it kills
without being ignited.
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Ruski
hardware shop, probably about Ł3 - go to the nest at midnight (that's when
they all turn into pumpkins) and 'puff' the powder around the entrance
hole.. then run! Repeat a couple of times and as long as the worker wasps
take the powder into the nest (which they can't help but do) it will kill
the queen and the problem will be resolved.
Advised a mate of this and they were gone in two days (the wasps, not my
mate!!)
Ruski.
"brian fernandez" <BY...@bsfernandez.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I'VE GOT A WASPS NEST IN THE CORNER OF MY GARDEN, I'VE DUG IT LAST YEAR
BUT
> THEY SEEM TO HAVE COME BACK IS . WHAT'S THE CHEAPEST WAY TO GET RID OF
THEM
Simon Avery
Hello Conrad
CE> call the coucil...they've got the right kit.....
CE> .not just a bottle of petrol.....
And charge you, unless you rent from them.
Someone else has given a figure of 45ukp, which is about right IME (38
for a private firm to deal with a delicately located wasps nest).
That's, ooh, 180ukp for the four nests /this year/ I've dealt with
successfully, and even petrol at its current costs - say .25 of a
litre at 90p/litre = 23pence times 4 = 92p
It's cost me 92 pence and without having to wait for man to arrive,
have to tell man where wasps are, then be told "Well, they're all
pretty harmless really unless you upset them" half a dozen times by
man.
You do it your way, I'll stick to mine.
Conrad Edwards
morello
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> I'VE GOT A WASPS NEST IN THE CORNER OF MY GARDEN, I'VE DUG IT LAST YEAR
BUT
> THEY SEEM TO HAVE COME BACK IS . WHAT'S THE CHEAPEST WAY TO GET RID OF
THEM
> FOR ONCE AND ALL PLEASE PLEASE HELP
I had an underground wasps nest on my allotment. Around dusk I dumped a
barrowload of fresh manure directly over the entrance. Then stood at a safe
distance to watch a crowd of very confused wasps begin to gather.
Very satisfying, but totally ineffective, of course - they had dug a new
exit by the following day.
I don't know whether to try one of the alternatives suggested here, or as an
experiment I could see just how big the pile has to get before they give up
and move on.
Not something I would recommend for nests in the loft, however.
Tom
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Bill
<in...@nospam.morello.co.uk> writes
>
>I had an underground wasps nest on my allotment. Around dusk I dumped a
>barrowload of fresh manure directly over the entrance. Then stood at a safe
>distance to watch a crowd of very confused wasps begin to gather.
>
>Very satisfying, but totally ineffective, of course - they had dug a new
>exit by the following day.
>
>I don't know whether to try one of the alternatives suggested here, or as an
>experiment I could see just how big the pile has to get before they give up
>and move on.
>
>Not something I would recommend for nests in the loft, however.
It would certainly be a talking point though!
I damaged an underground nest a couple of years ago by accident,
not knowing it was there I parked on top of it. Any way there followed a
scene out of a Tom and Jerry cartoon with me running down the road
chased by a lot of very angry wasps. They had managed to get inside my
shirt before I realised what had happened. 10 stings later we parted
company, I did not have any major problems with the stings but I did
have the most amazing dreams that night!! An interesting experience but
again not one to be recommended!!
When I was a few years younger I used the petrol method of
removing them and it always seemed successful, although I could never
resist following it up with a match, our local wasps seemed to like
inhabiting drystone/sandstone walls built into grass banks and this
meant that there was not too much possibility of damage to anything
else.
--
Bill
Tim Hardisty
<BY...@bsfernandez.freeserve.co.uk> shouted:
< about a wasps nest>
Ant killer powder also kills wasps - it does because I've done two
this year with it, and it says so on the bottle :-)
BarbaraL
of wasps.
I find that if I'm being plagued in the kitchen, I stick a
jamjar with a few tablespoons of (cheap) jam halfway down the
garden, and they all seem to be attracted to this, it being a
stronger attractant than my kitchen. I don't know how
scientifically provable this is, but it has worked with me.
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Do it the Ameican Way. Wait outside teh hole and shoot them
Tony Williams
Andy Woodward <a...@aber.ac.uk> wrote:
> >Wasps don't like noise - go and shout at them for a while ;o)
> Do it the Ameican Way. Wait outside teh hole and shoot them
NRA members only......
--
Tony Williams.
Derek Salt
Derek
Tracy wrote in message <8n1ftr$ls1$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>brian fernandez <BY...@bsfernandez.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:8n1evn$kvq$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> I'VE GOT A WASPS NEST IN THE CORNER OF MY GARDEN, I'VE DUG IT
LAST YEAR
>BUT
>> THEY SEEM TO HAVE COME BACK IS . WHAT'S THE CHEAPEST WAY TO GET
RID OF
>THEM
>> FOR ONCE AND ALL PLEASE PLEASE HELP
>
>Wasps don't like noise - go and shout at them for a while ;o)
>
>Tracy
>
>
Geoff Williams
>
> The way 'a friend' used to do it was an illegal tin of Cymag.....
Someone recently ceased to exist through accidental cyanide
poisoning....wonder if he was troubled by wasps?
Andy Woodward
>Someone recently ceased to exist through accidental cyanide
>poisoning....wonder if he was troubled by wasps?
Only temporarily.
Conrad Edwards
suchlike to stimulate the heart) was only available by doctor's
prescription after the event...but not much good to a corpse.
Paddy Spencer
> Hello Conrad
> CE> call the coucil...they've got the right kit.....
> CE> not just a bottle of petrol.....
> And charge you, unless you rent from them.
[Snip]
> You do it your way, I'll stick to mine.
Last year, we kept finding dead wasps around the house, one or two
here, one or two there. I killed about 8 wasps in the hour it took me
to wire in a lightbulb in the loft. By the light of this new bulb could
be seen a nest some feet in diameter, with rather a lot of wasps nearby.
We paid GBP30 for someone from the council to come out and do the job.
When she came round, she stuck her head through the hatch, saw an older
nest (only about 3" diameter) and said "That's not very big," then saw
the _other_ one and said, "_that_ one is, though!"
And roughly how many wasps did she think were in that nest? "About
20,000 or so."
Shw went out to her van and came back in full noddy gear (atomic, bio,
chem warfare suit) with two large canisters of stuff. "I'll need to
break up the nest," she said. "Have you got a broom handle you won't
mind me leaving up there if I need to leave in a hurry?"
Up she goes, and various banging and spraying noises ensue, after which
she very quickly emerges, sans broom handle or canister, slamming the
hatch shut. "Don't go up there until after I've been back next week,"
she says breathlessly. "I had to come down quick when things got a bit
nasty."
20,000 wasps. A bit nasty. I think this is a new definition of the term
"nasty" I was previously unaware of.
I finally summoned the courage (and had the time) to go up this weekend
and clear it out. Looking at the wreckage of the nest, the number of
wasp corpses everywhere, I think it's one of the best thirty quid I've
ever spent.
--
Paddy Spencer
paddy....@ukgateway.net
Simon Avery
Hello Paddy
Congrats on being the first external usenet message to get past BTi's
broken servers in 24 hours! I think that justifies a reply, at least.
>> You do it your way, I'll stick to mine.
PS> Last year, we kept finding dead wasps around the house, one
PS> or two here, one or two there. I killed about 8 wasps in the
PS> hour it took me to wire in a lightbulb in the loft. By the
PS> light of this new bulb could be seen a nest some feet in
PS> diameter, with rather a lot of wasps nearby.
Ah, now lofts be different. Harder to run away for one thing, and
sloshing petrol about in a loft is a "Bad Thing".
PS> And roughly how many wasps did she think were in that nest?
PS> "About 20,000 or so."
"Meep!"
PS> I finally summoned the courage (and had the time) to go up
PS> this weekend and clear it out. Looking at the wreckage of
PS> the nest, the number of wasp corpses everywhere, I think
PS> it's one of the best thirty quid I've ever spent.
I have used the exterminators /twice/.
First was a bees nest in the crawlspace above what was then my bedroom
(rented). Stuck with it for a while until the summer heat caused honey
to leak through the hardboard ceiling and drip down the walls, and
when they started gnawing through the ceiling and doing practice runs
around the room I'd had enough. Landlords paid for that, so no idea
what it cost.
Second was a hornets nest in a thatched barn. Somewhat of an
anticlimax - out of his car, squinted at the thatch, borrowed our
ladder, went up and sprayed some dust in the entrance, came down - "35
quid please guvnor!"
The hornets weren't really doing any harm, except for two things; the
thatchers were due in a week to rethatch it and no way were they going
near a nest. Secondly, it was a stable yard - and horses really freak
out when a mini-jumbo goes slowly past their lug holes.
All the other occasions I've dealt with them myself - they've been in
hedges or holes in the ground and petroleum spirit's done the job
quickly, safely and cheaply.
--
Simon Paul Avery, Devon, UK
A vile pay mourns.
Andrew Gabriel
Paddy Spencer <paddy....@ukgateway.net> writes:
>
>Up she goes, and various banging and spraying noises ensue, after which
>she very quickly emerges, sans broom handle or canister, slamming the
>hatch shut. "Don't go up there until after I've been back next week,"
>she says breathlessly. "I had to come down quick when things got a bit
>nasty."
>
>20,000 wasps. A bit nasty. I think this is a new definition of the term
>"nasty" I was previously unaware of.
>
>and clear it out. Looking at the wreckage of the nest, the number of
>wasp corpses everywhere, I think it's one of the best thirty quid I've
>ever spent.
Sounds rather amateurish to me. When I've killed wasps nests, I've
managed to kill the wasps _in_ the nest, without them (or the nest)
spread all over the place.
--
Andrew Gabriel And...@cucumber.demon.co.uk
Consultant Software Engineer
B.L.Ragunathan
quite fit. I had made the hole a little to big and would have to do a little filling before fitting the grill. I though I will do that later when I have time.
Anyway one year after moving in, the bricks have not been fitted. My back bedroom is used as the PC room until the girls are a bit older. My wife kept complaining of scratching noises coming from the airbrick hole, I just said it is the wind blowing the paper.
Recently I have noticed the odd wasp in the room, the bottom part of the paper covering the hole had come away wall, there was also this brown gunk which had dripped down the wall. Sod it I thought the rain must be blowing the muck in. I assumed the odd wasp was flying in attracted to the light. I thought I better fit the old grill to stop anymore of the wee beauties from flying in. So I got some filler, my drill and a grill and started the Job.
First thing was to peel the paper back. I peeled the paper back and there was 5 to 6 wasps sitting there. I though Oh bugger, must be a small nest in there. Remember this my first experience of a wasps nest. Right I though I will get a stick and push what evers in there, out the other side. I tied to do this, part way through this procedure, a swarm of 50 -60 wasps flew at me. I have never run so fast in my life, I run out the room and shut the door.
After ringing through 6 different,24/7, 1 hour response exterminators and pleading for someone to come out, I got one to appear(this at 7.00pm on a Saturday). He had a quick look, yep u got a nest in there alright, He gave them a quick quirt of insecticide/powder and the little buggars were all dead the next morning. Hoovered nearly 200 of buggars from around the window.
I have re-taped up the hole. I need to borrow a ladder soon and fit the airbricks, I don't fancy removing that dead nest though.
Cost me #75 quid to get rid of them, I could have paid that money to someone to make the holes and fit the airbricks :-((
Well this weekend going to make a 8*6 base for my new shiplap shed, may get around to the airbricks, with two small children, time is a premium.
Brian
BTW
I wired in a Alarm system while re-furbishing the house, but did not fit the bell box, because of a lack of a ladder. You guessed it, had a small burglary a few weeks before the wasps nest incident, borrowed a ladder and fitted the bell box, Should have fitted the air bricks at the same time, at least that way I would have discovered the nest from the outside. On the otherhand discovering a wasps nest while up ladder, may not be the best to happen :-))
Pam Scruton
Andy Mabbett gave me a fright when he reported
> >And roughly how many wasps did she think were in that nest? "About
> >20,000 or so.
> >
Oooh er!
Big problem is that our loft is a storage area for all sorts of stuff which
would probably be ruined beyond repair if sprayed. So although he doesn't
mind the wholesale slaughter he does object to the spraying. Furthermore the
loft is not fully floored and he is convinced that any council exterminator
would end up putting a foot through one of the upstairs ceilings and sod's
law would ensure that it was one of the new ceilings, not one of the old
ones!
I think we'll stick with the Christmas Holiday plan!
Many thanks for that, Andy!
Pam
Take out thedog to reply
Ashley Sanders
of the house (some render having fallen out.) We called the council man
out, he gave it one quick squirt with an aerosol can and proclaimed them
dead -- which they were. We saw other wasps come back to the nest, but
they wouldn't go in, just hovered around outside.
I think the man said that the stuff he used removed the oxygen and the
wasps suffocate?
A.
John Hewett
<Pam.S...@thedog.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Andy Mabbett gave me a fright when he reported
>
>> >And roughly how many wasps did she think were in that nest? "About
>> >20,000 or so.
>> >
>
>Oooh er!
>
>Big problem is that our loft is a storage area for all sorts of stuff which
>would probably be ruined beyond repair if sprayed. So although he doesn't
>mind the wholesale slaughter he does object to the spraying. Furthermore the
>loft is not fully floored and he is convinced that any council exterminator
>would end up putting a foot through one of the upstairs ceilings and sod's
>law would ensure that it was one of the new ceilings, not one of the old
>ones!
I apologise if this has been mentioned before, To get rid of a wasps
nest I use a product called 'Raid' (makers Johnson wax ltd) It is
described as a wasp nest destroyer and having used it myself can
confirm it works! You spray the nest early morning or late evening
when most of the wasps have returned to the nest, the nest is sprayed
from 20ft away until the nest is saturated, leave for 24 hours till
wasp activity has ceased and remove nest! Trouble is I do not think
you are supposed to use it in confined spaces!
John
Nick Maclaren
Is it marked "inflammable" (or, yuck, "flammable")? If so, do NOT
put it on wasps nests near anything that matters. Frankly, such
products do little except line the pockets of their perpetrators
and harm the environment. Sorry, but they really are that bad.
If it is water based, then it may be OK.
The first point is that the very large wasps' nests being talked
about require several pints of liquid to be saturated. And the
wasps are likely to get a little pissed off while you are spraying
their nest. You may also breathe enough of it to pass out.
The second is that the nests are inflammable enough as they are,
and are a positive fire hazard when saturated with an inflammable
liquid. The classic method of dowsing them in petrol and tossing
a match has been described by other people - DON'T!
Regards,
Nick Maclaren,
University of Cambridge Computing Service,
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, England.
Email: nm...@cam.ac.uk
Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679
John Hewett
>Is it marked "inflammable" (or, yuck, "flammable")? If so, do NOT
>put it on wasps nests near anything that matters. Frankly, such
>products do little except line the pockets of their perpetrators
>and harm the environment. Sorry, but they really are that bad.
>If it is water based, then it may be OK.
>The first point is that the very large wasps' nests being talked
>about require several pints of liquid to be saturated. And the
>wasps are likely to get a little pissed off while you are spraying
>their nest. You may also breathe enough of it to pass out.
>
>The second is that the nests are inflammable enough as they are,
>and are a positive fire hazard when saturated with an inflammable
>liquid. The classic method of dowsing them in petrol and tossing
>a match has been described by other people - DON'T!
>
>
>Regards,
>Nick Maclaren,
>University of Cambridge Computing Service,
>New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG, England.
>Email: nm...@cam.ac.uk
>Tel.: +44 1223 334761 Fax: +44 1223 334679
Raid is not marked as "inflammable" or "flammable" and whilst not
wishing to defend this product, the can contains 400ml and states that
it will treat 3 to 5 wasp nests, so you do not have to use that much,
I am not trying to promote the product, but it seems lot safer than
some of the methods described in earlier messages! I think it is only
intended for outdoor use, I used it myself on a nest in a tree close
to the house where the wasps were becoming a real nuisance!
Personally I would not destroy a wasps nest unless it is causing a
nuisance, wasps are largely carnivorous and are among the gardeners
friends they do consume many garden and household pests as well as
assisting in the pollination of fruit! Wasps are not generally
aggressive, but do tend to sting anything that gets in the way as they
attempt to enter or leave the nest.
John.
Mark Evans
> The first point is that the very large wasps' nests being talked
> about require several pints of liquid to be saturated. And the
This would be many cans, considering each can is only likely to
be 300 ml or so.
> wasps are likely to get a little pissed off while you are spraying
> their nest. You may also breathe enough of it to pass out.
Unless there is something more toxic to wasps than to humans.
> The second is that the nests are inflammable enough as they are,
> and are a positive fire hazard when saturated with an inflammable
> liquid. The classic method of dowsing them in petrol and tossing
> a match has been described by other people - DON'T!
Certainly not inside a building. Even outside a flame thrower is
probably a better idea than a match. Longer range and will work on
any wasps which manage to escape :)
kay
interest.Wasps are dangerous and should be treated with caution.If you want
to get rid of them yourself then fine,I won't stop you.In fact when I'm
called to deal with wasps I quite often advise people on how to do it
themselves efficiently AND SAFELY.Wasps and bees are very susceptible to
insecticides,one teaspoon of ant powder is enough to eradicate a full size
nest.The aerosols designed for wasps nests contain a stupefying
agent(anaesthetic)which very quickly 'knocks down' any wasps in the nest and
flying around.The insecticide in the cans then leaves a residue on the nest
which wasps will pick up as they build/repair the nest and are killed.Once
the queen wasp is killed the rest of the nest will die anyway,although this
takes some time.One can is enough to kill a wasps nest,you do not have to
saturate it,if the wasps are still there after a few days it has not
worked - as sometimes happens for various reasons - and the procedure should
be repeated.Wasps nests themselves are not flammable,the construction limits
airflow and the result is usually a scorched outer layer which the wasps
soon repair,unless of course some type of accelerant is used ie petrol.The
aerosol cans should not be used in confined spaces as the stupefying effect
will also affect humans.
I would not advise people to attempt treating wasps nests unless they have
some sort of protection,have some idea of what to expect and are fast
runners!
The best advice I can give is call in the professionals,if the council comes
out you don't have to pay them to do it usually there is no call out charge
and advice is free,then you can decide to have a go yourself or let them do
it,after all they've got all the gear and know what they are doing.
I once went to a job where someone had a wasps nest under their front
doorstep,they poured some petrol in and threw a match at it,result no front
door,garden fence and a visit from the fire brigade.And the wasps were still
there!.Another time someone had a nest next to a fishpond,used ant
powder,dead wasps fell in pond,result dead fish.
And with the price of petrol it's probably cheaper to get someone in
anyway!!!
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Simon Avery
Hello Mark
>> The second is that the nests are inflammable enough as
>> they are, and are a positive fire hazard when saturated
>> with an inflammable liquid. The classic method of dowsing
>> them in petrol and tossing a match has been described by
>> other people - DON'T!
ME> Certainly not inside a building.
A somewhat Darwinian ending for them's as tries it, anyway.
ME> Even outside a flame
ME> thrower is probably a better idea than a match. Longer range
ME> and will work on any wasps which manage to escape :)
No need. Petrol and NO match. Works every time on underground nests.
Slosh a bit in or around the hole and by next day it's littered with
yellow and black bodies. Fumes get into the nest and kill everything.
--
Simon Paul Avery, Devon, UK
A lumpy aversion.
John Hewett
<m...@anacon.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Nick Maclaren <nm...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> The first point is that the very large wasps' nests being talked
>> about require several pints of liquid to be saturated. And the
>
>This would be many cans, considering each can is only likely to
>be 300 ml or so.
>
>> wasps are likely to get a little pissed off while you are spraying
>> their nest. You may also breathe enough of it to pass out.
>
>Unless there is something more toxic to wasps than to humans.
>
>> The second is that the nests are inflammable enough as they are,
>> and are a positive fire hazard when saturated with an inflammable
>> liquid. The classic method of dowsing them in petrol and tossing
>> a match has been described by other people - DON'T!
>
>Certainly not inside a building. Even outside a flame thrower is
>probably a better idea than a match. Longer range and will work on
>any wasps which manage to escape :)
As I stated in my earlier message, one can of Raid was more than
enough, in fact I still have half of a can left! And it did get rid of
the wasps without any problem, I think these suggestions of
flamethrowers and petrol are a little over the top! You are joking
aren't you?
John.
Nick Maclaren
I rather doubt that you saturated the nest, then :-) As "kay"
points out, that isn't the way to do it anyway.
You may THINK that the remarks about petrol are a joke, but
there are some pretty determined competitors for the Darwin
awards out there ....
Mr Rat [2.30]
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> No need. Petrol and NO match. Works every time on underground nests.
> Slosh a bit in or around the hole and by next day it's littered with
> yellow and black bodies. Fumes get into the nest and kill everything.
Yes, I thought this method of insect control works due to asphyxiation of
the insects by the fumes, rather than burning by fire, although I can see
the appeal of the match to "twisted fire-starter" types, although at
considerable personal risk to themselves and a chance of extra overtime for
the Fire Brigade.
If you look at COSHH sheets for most hydrocarbon solvents they tend to use
the risk phrase "Harmful: May cause lung damage if swallowed" [or similar
phrases] so you can imagine the effect they have on the bugs. From checking
this data it appears that petrol is quite nasty stuff, burnt or not!
Funnily enough it was discussed on a US group I was reading a few days ago
[except they talked about "hornets" around the "trash cans"]. Some "brake
cleaner" fluid was suggested, which I think is a form of "petroleum ether"
or "petroleum distillates".
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Simon Avery
Hello kay
k> I am a pest controller and have been following this thread
k> with interest.
<Snip>
Interesting message - thanks for posting it, always good to hear from
those who deal with it on a daily basis.
k> gear and know what they are doing. I once went to a job
k> where someone had a wasps nest under their
k> front doorstep,they poured some petrol in and threw a match
k> at it,result no front door,garden fence and a visit from the
k> fire brigade.
I don't understand why people get the idea you've got to LIGHT the
petrol! The fumes work better than flame - though even so, next to or
in a house, better to use a proprietry agent.
k> wasps fell in pond,result dead fish. And with the price of
k> petrol it's probably cheaper to get someone in anyway!!!
Even with the current price of @ 86p/litre, a cupful (say 200ml) will
deal with an average underground nest - and that costs 21.5 pence -
I'll bet the proper stuff costs a bit more per application. :)
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Anton
Nick Maclaren wrote in message <8odbs0$1im$1...@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>...
>In article <39aa2fbd...@news.CIS.DFN.DE>,
>John Hewett <dr...@callnet0800.com> wrote:
>>On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:03:01 +0100, Mark Evans
>><m...@anacon.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>the wasps without any problem, I think these suggestions of
>>flamethrowers and petrol are a little over the top! You are joking
>>aren't you?
>
>there are some pretty determined competitors for the Darwin
>awards out there ....
>
'Scuse me coming in partway through, but why are remarks about petrol a
joke? In general, wasps nests should be left alone, but if they are in a
position intolerably near the house, they need to go. If they are in the
ground and not near other flammables, half a cup full of petrol handled
carefully is the fastest way of doing it. So what are these Darwin awards
I'm up for then?
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Nick Maclaren
YOU may know what you are doing, but thousands don't ....
I have heard of people who have used a gallon or so on a big nest,
just to make sure, and have regarded 10' as a safe distance from
the nearest inflammable objects. Even a cupful can cause quite a
fireball, if it is allowed to form a petrol/air mixture before
being lit, and a gallon is something else entirely.
Nick Maclaren
Similarly, I would be chary of recommending that anyone uses a
puffer pack of derris powder - though I have done so, with no
problem and good reason to believe that I would have none. But
NO WAY would I do that on a large nest in a roof space!
Andy Woodward
A datapoint. Many yeasrs ago, I got hayfever cripplingly badly. I was dosed up
to the eyeballs on antihistamines in order to go climbing. On the way down a
bank, I stepped in a convenient step and my leg disappeared down a wasps nest
=8-0
My leg came out loking like I had a yellow crawling welly on =8-0
Fortunately I was so intent on getting my trousers off to get rid of teh
buggers from inside (scared the hell out of 2 little old ladies walking
nearby....) that I didnt run - wasps chase moving objects......As it
was, they just buzzed round me a lot without doing much.
When I saw my leg covered in shoulder to shoulder wasps , I figured I was
going to be in DEEEEEEEEEP misery for a long while. As it turned out, it was
no worse than walking into a patch of nettles. Didnt even spoil the climbing
- I did 3 new routes that afternoon........
So if you're goijg to do a Terminator job on a large wasps nest, it might be
woirth dosing up on hayfever pills first.
>I would not advise people to attempt treating wasps nests unless they have
>some sort of protection,have some idea of what to expect and are fast
>runners!
Running guarantees they'll go for you.
Andy Woodward
Humans with suitable attitude are pretty toxic to anything smaller than a
buffalo.......
Matt Smith
wrote:
> - wasps chase moving objects......As it
>was, they just buzzed round me a lot without doing much.
>
Sound a bit 'Jurassic Park' to me, I've never heard that they will
only chase moving objects. Certainly bees have alarm pheremones that
will get other bees in the mood to sting, if you get this on you the
standing still wont make a jot of difference. Is this personal
experience or did you see it in abook somewhere.
Matt
Pamela Buckle
Nick Maclaren <nm...@cus.cam.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> Is it marked "inflammable" (or, yuck, "flammable")? If so, do NOT
> put it on wasps nests near anything that matters. Frankly, such
> products do little except line the pockets of their perpetrators
> and harm the environment. Sorry, but they really are that bad.
> If it is water based, then it may be OK.
>
is inflammable, so there may be a trace of hysterical over-reaction hidden
in there somewhere. By the way, the fact it is not a CFC gas is to .... but
you know that already.
Martin, in MK.
Dave Liquorice
> Hornets are different from wasps. They are *much* larger, for one thing,
> and my environmental consultant neighbour tells me that they are (a) much
> less aggressive than wasps
Provided you don't breath on them. Something in human breath sends 'me into
attack mode. This information obtained from a hornet keeper when filming the
beasties. They are big and make a very distinctive low frequency buzzing
noise.
> & (b) rare. Not that that stops me from trying to discourage them from
> nesting in my orchard.
I doubt many people in this coutry would know a hornet if they saw one. They
might mistake a Queen wasp for one but Queen wasp is only about half the
size of a hornet...
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I bit smelly but....
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i_lurker
Zaax wrote in message ...
>how about sulphur candle?
>
>I bit smelly but....
I have recently (this last week) apparently been successful in killing off
a large wasps nest inside a underfloor ventilator grill with the use of
"Doff Wasp Nest Killer" Its a puff powder. I puffed it round and inside
the ventilator opening on an evening and there was more activity the
following morning. I have yet to *poke* the grill to find out what might
or might not be there ( Im a coward!) <g> Cost me £1.49 from a local garden
centre.
Steve Birkbeck
>, Dave Liquorice <new...@nexus.demon.co.uk> writes
>On 28 Aug 2000 11:45:17 GMT, Huge wrote:
>
>> Hornets are different from wasps. They are *much* larger, for one thing,
>> and my environmental consultant neighbour tells me that they are (a) much
>> less aggressive than wasps
>
>Provided you don't breath on them. Something in human breath sends 'me into
>attack mode. This information obtained from a hornet keeper when filming the
>beasties.
equipment.
>They are big and make a very distinctive low frequency buzzing
>noise.
>
>> & (b) rare. Not that that stops me from trying to discourage them from
>> nesting in my orchard.
>
>I doubt many people in this coutry would know a hornet if they saw one. They
>might mistake a Queen wasp for one but Queen wasp is only about half the
>size of a hornet...
>
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moonraker
"Andy Woodward" <a...@aber.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> So if you're goijg to do a Terminator job on a large wasps nest, it might
be
> woirth dosing up on hayfever pills first.
>
> >I would not advise people to attempt treating wasps nests unless they
have
> >some sort of protection,have some idea of what to expect and are fast
> >runners!
>
> Running guarantees they'll go for you.
>
with the lawn mower, and received five stings. No problem, felt very macho,
just small bumps and a little itching.
2 weeks later I "found" another nest with a strimmer, only two stings this
time, no problem! Wrong they caused massive swellings that needed strong
anti-histamine treatment, next time I am warned it will probably be even
worse.
Enter local council who disposed of the four nests in no time, with only
discomfort,because of the heat, for the very well protected pest controller.
Neal
to a wasp nest in his roof space. Burned his house to the ground and took
his neighbours roof off.
Zaax
writes
>On Ceefax yesterday the was a story of a bloke in Dudley (arr) who setfire
>to a wasp nest in his roof space. Burned his house to the ground and took
>his neighbours roof off.
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Andy Woodward
>>might mistake a Queen wasp for one but Queen wasp is only about half the
>>size of a hornet...
>These are indubitably hornets. Black & yellow and the size of B-52s.
They sound like Harley Davidsons too.
hlmw
Andy Woodward wrote:
They also sound like Cornish Rugby fans!
geoff
<hl...@telusplanet.net> writes
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