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Paul

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:39:33 AM1/8/10
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I have a pretty new Worcester Bosch Combi 27Cdi, and the plastic key
used to lock and unlock the link cannot be removed from the unlock
position. As it is plastic, and the fitting is plastic, I am reluctant
to apply to much force!! At the moment it is left in, just turned to
the unlocked position, and I don't suppose it will do any harm that
way, but how can it be removed please?

Roger Mills

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:43:49 AM1/8/10
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Paul <pauly...@googlemail.com> wrote:


Donno. Maybe it's designed that way? Will it come out in the lock position?
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Stuart Noble

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Jan 8, 2010, 9:31:30 AM1/8/10
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Roger Mills wrote:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Paul <pauly...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a pretty new Worcester Bosch Combi 27Cdi, and the plastic key
>> used to lock and unlock the link cannot be removed from the unlock
>> position. As it is plastic, and the fitting is plastic, I am reluctant
>> to apply to much force!! At the moment it is left in, just turned to
>> the unlocked position, and I don't suppose it will do any harm that
>> way, but how can it be removed please?
>
>
> Donno. Maybe it's designed that way? Will it come out in the lock position?

If it's like my 24i junior, it need a good shove to get it in, and a
good tug to get it out. IIRC there's a black seal about halfway that's a
very tight fit

cynic

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Jan 8, 2010, 10:25:23 AM1/8/10
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look on the bright side - at least you won't lose it before you need
it next time

Paul

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Jan 8, 2010, 10:48:55 AM1/8/10
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On Jan 8, 2:31 pm, Stuart Noble <stuart_no...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> If it's like my 24i junior, it need a good shove to get it in, and a
> good tug to get it out. IIRC there's a black seal about halfway that's a
> very tight fit

Yes, it did need a good shove to get in, and i did note the two 'O'
rings - maybe I just need to work at it....

Paul

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Jan 8, 2010, 10:49:55 AM1/8/10
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On Jan 8, 3:25 pm, cynic <icelan...@talktalk.net> wrote:

> look on the bright side - at least you won't lose it before you need
> it next time

LOL, true


Stuart Noble

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Jan 8, 2010, 11:03:47 AM1/8/10
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When the weather gets warmer maybe....

Harry Bloomfield

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Jan 8, 2010, 11:36:42 AM1/8/10
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on 08/01/2010, Paul supposed :

They need quite good pull, to get them out. Pull down hard, whilst
turning it and you should feel it drop into the exit slot. Then it just
needs a good pull.

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YAPH

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Jan 8, 2010, 5:35:37 PM1/8/10
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Pull hard

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djc

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:40:36 PM1/8/10
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If it is in the unlocked position just pull it out. There is an O ring
seal that will resist but then it should pop out.

Mike Tomlinson

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Jan 9, 2010, 3:51:23 AM1/9/10
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In article <081aa14d-1e4d-43f4...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups
.com>, Paul <pauly...@googlemail.com> writes

>I have a pretty new Worcester Bosch Combi 27Cdi, and the plastic key
>used to lock and unlock the link cannot be removed from the unlock
>position.

Mine (a WB Greenstar Junior 28) does allow the plastic key to be pulled
out. It has two O-rings on the shaft which make it difficult to pull
out. (does yours go in the bottom of the boiler, pointing down?)

You could do worse than check with WB technical. They have been
friendly and helpful on the two occasions that I've called with a query.

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Paul

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Jan 11, 2010, 6:04:59 AM1/11/10
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On 9 Jan, 08:51, Mike Tomlinson <m...@jasper.org.uk> wrote:

> Mine (a WB Greenstar Junior 28) does allow the plastic key to be pulled
> out.  It has two O-rings on the shaft which make it difficult to pull
> out. (does yours go in the bottom of the boiler, pointing down?)
>
> You could do worse than check with WB technical.  They have been
> friendly and helpful on the two occasions that I've called with a query.

Thanks, mine is the same - I managed to remove it now with tenacity,
determination and patience.

lyndaharg...@gmail.com

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Feb 15, 2015, 8:45:38 AM2/15/15
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How go get key out of woschester boiler



Tim Watts

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Feb 15, 2015, 8:54:57 AM2/15/15
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On 15/02/15 13:45, lyndaharg...@gmail.com wrote:
> How go get key out of woschester boiler
>
>
>


Why are so many people unable to properly phrase a question in clear and
polite English?

No "please" or "hi folks". No mention of what this key actually looks
like or roughly which Worcester Bosch boiler this is...

Tim+

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Feb 15, 2015, 9:04:39 AM2/15/15
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<lyndaharg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How go get key out of woschester boiler

Easy. Check boiler model number. Download instructions from net. Read
instructions. Remove key.

Tim

Chris French

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Feb 15, 2015, 9:20:53 AM2/15/15
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Tch, angle grinder of course.
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Lobster

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Feb 15, 2015, 10:00:31 AM2/15/15
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On 15 Feb 2015, Tim+ <timdow...@yahoo.co.uk> grunted:
ITYM:

Esy. Chek boiler number model. Downlode instrcshunst frm net. Red
inchtrucktions. Remo key

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Broadback

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Feb 15, 2015, 10:37:56 AM2/15/15
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As we are onto angle grinder I expect others saw and and lots know but
there was a program on TV where they used angle grinders to cut the toe
nails of llamas. How versatile the angle grinder is!

Phil L

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Feb 15, 2015, 11:05:30 AM2/15/15
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<lyndaharg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> How go get key out of woschester boiler

this isn't text, you are allowed more than 70 characters, try being a bit
more civil and you may get more help


Peter Parry

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Feb 15, 2015, 11:10:05 AM2/15/15
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 05:45:35 -0800 (PST),
lyndaharg...@gmail.com wrote:

>How go get key out of woschester boiler

The Waschester is an interesting device. Made in 1970 it was ahead of
its time and incorporated features taken from the Hoover Keymatic.
Inserting the correct key set it to wash socks, underwear or small
dogs as well as providing luke warm water to the radiators. The key
used for programming was prone to insertion errors and to remove it
when stuck you opened the frogseiner, inserted a wollycobler and
twisted the grubteir until it clicked. If that failed you wellied it
with a Birmingham Screwdriver.

Tim Watts

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Feb 15, 2015, 11:17:16 AM2/15/15
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Seems to bit a sharp rise in people who speak "grunt".

Wonder if there's a(nother) new web gateway to uk.d-i-y?


stuart noble

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Feb 16, 2015, 2:33:02 AM2/16/15
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On mine you push the key upwards, then half a turn anti clockwise and
pull it out. A bit stiff as I recall.

F

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Feb 16, 2015, 5:53:58 AM2/16/15
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And why did doing that make you 'a bit stiff'?

Perhaps lyndaharg...@gmail.com is interested in the effect and
looking for an offer of help from someone?

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stuart noble

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Feb 17, 2015, 4:52:45 AM2/17/15
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On 16/02/2015 10:52, F wrote:
> On 16/02/2015 07:32, stuart noble wrote:
>> On 15/02/2015 16:09, Peter Parry wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 05:45:35 -0800 (PST),
>>> lyndaharg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> How go get key out of woschester boiler
>>>
>>> The Waschester is an interesting device. Made in 1970 it was ahead of
>>> its time and incorporated features taken from the Hoover Keymatic.
>>> Inserting the correct key set it to wash socks, underwear or small
>>> dogs as well as providing luke warm water to the radiators. The key
>>> used for programming was prone to insertion errors and to remove it
>>> when stuck you opened the frogseiner, inserted a wollycobler and
>>> twisted the grubteir until it clicked. If that failed you wellied it
>>> with a Birmingham Screwdriver.
>>>
>>
>> On mine you push the key upwards, then half a turn anti clockwise and
>> pull it out. A bit stiff as I recall.
>
> And why did doing that make you 'a bit stiff'?
>

doesn't take much

Osmotic

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Jun 25, 2017, 5:44:07 PM6/25/17
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replying to Peter Parry, Osmotic wrote:
Titter

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Suku

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Jun 29, 2017, 1:44:08 PM6/29/17
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replying to stuart noble, Suku wrote:
Stuart Noble, thank you so much!! That worked. I was about to cry honestly or
leave it in.

Billy cormack

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Jul 18, 2017, 3:14:05 PM7/18/17
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replying to lyndahargreaves1508, Billy cormack wrote:
Need new washers for the key

Roger Hayter

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Jul 18, 2017, 4:09:47 PM7/18/17
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Billy cormack <caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com>
wrote:

> replying to lyndahargreaves1508, Billy cormack wrote:
> Need new washers for the key


I've got a new WB combi and it has no keys, plastic or otherwise,
AFAICS. Wot's the key for?


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David

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Jul 20, 2017, 9:21:19 AM7/20/17
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On mine it enables the filling loop to top up the sealed bit from the cold
mains.


Cheers


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mechanic

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Jul 20, 2017, 10:18:55 AM7/20/17
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:09:43 +0100, Roger Hayter wrote:

They seem to have given up on keys in recent models, no doubt the
hassle annoyed customers. It was 'unlocking' the fill-up loop.

Roger Hayter

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Jul 20, 2017, 3:18:39 PM7/20/17
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I see. Mine doesn't have a filling loop internally at all, according to
the plumber who put it in. And arranged an external filling loop beside
it. With the keyed ones, were you supposed to detach the actual loop
(as in the old rules) or did the key obviate this step?


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Will

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Sep 15, 2018, 12:44:06 PM9/15/18
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replying to Paul, Will wrote:
I had same issue but it did just take persistence, I pulled hard and wobbled
continuously and it slowly came out. I do think it doesn’t feel right to be
pulling so hard on plastic but it came out in the end.

Fredxx

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Sep 15, 2018, 1:10:22 PM9/15/18
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On 15/09/2018 17:44, Will wrote:
> replying to Paul, Will wrote: I had same issue but it did just take
> persistence, I pulled hard and wobbled continuously and it slowly
> came out. I do think it doesn’t feel right to be pulling so hard on
> plastic but it came out in the end.

Are you talking about your dildo?

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Brian Gaff

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In whos end. Why cannot you folks quote?
Brian

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toonmag50

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replying to Brian Gaff, toonmag50 wrote:
My Worcester green Star 37 CDI has just done the same grab with its key.
It happened 4 years ago when the boiler needed to be topped up, but it
eventually came out.
This time ,the boiler is very greedy and won't release the key.
I phoned Worcester Bosch technical support and they suggested that I pay
£310.00 for an engineer to "look at it"
I suggested that the key has a design fault and should not behave like this.
I have turned the key to the closed position and it will stay like this .
The wife was getting worried about the system overpressurising as she read the
instructions. I can't see this happening if the stop valve is closed and the
key closed. No weeping from the mains should occur.
It looks like a nice way Bosch have invented to get a nice overpriced annual
service from panicking Joe bloggs.
Leave the key in and forgot about the stress .

Mark Price

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Apr 20, 2019, 12:14:05 PM4/20/19
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replying to Tim Watts, Mark Price wrote:
Hi there Tim Watts.
I hope you are well.
I don't think that formal introductions are needed on this forum. I think
you'll find that the key is a generic key so no need for anyone to announce
the boiler model.
I do hope that this clears up your problem and that you have a pleasant
evening.
Kind regards.
Mark.

Brian Gaff

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How old is this one can we play Home owners club year bingo?
Brian

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On 20/04/2019 17:14, Mark Price wrote:
> replying to Tim Watts, Mark Price wrote:
> Hi there Tim Watts.
> I hope you are well.
> I don't think that formal introductions are needed on this forum. I think
> you'll find that the key is a generic key so no need for anyone to announce
> the boiler model.
> I do hope that this clears up your problem and that you have a pleasant
> evening.
> Kind regards.
> Mark.
>
Jersus H. Thast is a 4 year old message you are replying to.

Even Tim Watts pronbaly sussed it out ny now


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Scott

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Apr 21, 2019, 5:29:52 AM4/21/19
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 17:14:01 GMT, toonmag50
<caedfaa9ed1216d60ef...@example.com> wrote:

>replying to Brian Gaff, toonmag50 wrote:
>My Worcester green Star 37 CDI has just done the same grab with its key.
>It happened 4 years ago when the boiler needed to be topped up, but it
>eventually came out.
>This time ,the boiler is very greedy and won't release the key.
>I phoned Worcester Bosch technical support and they suggested that I pay
>£310.00 for an engineer to "look at it"
>I suggested that the key has a design fault and should not behave like this.
>I have turned the key to the closed position and it will stay like this .
>The wife was getting worried about the system overpressurising as she read the
>instructions. I can't see this happening if the stop valve is closed and the
>key closed. No weeping from the mains should occur.
>It looks like a nice way Bosch have invented to get a nice overpriced annual
>service from panicking Joe bloggs.
>Leave the key in and forgot about the stress .

I was told by the installers to leave it in, as it is totally
unnecessary and only there for regulatory reasons

Amatuer DIY er

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Sep 12, 2019, 5:44:04 PM9/12/19
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replying to Paul, Amatuer DIY er wrote:
I also broke the key but it was in the locked position. I didn't try to get it
out I heated up the blade of a flat bladed screwdriver and pushed it into the
centre of the piece that was left in. I then cooled the screwdriver and now it
fits in the slot to turn the piece to the unlock position.

IAN TREVETT

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Nov 21, 2019, 1:44:05 PM11/21/19
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replying to stuart noble, IAN TREVETT wrote:
Thanks Stuart sorted bloody thing!

Peter

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Jun 13, 2021, 5:15:05 PM6/13/21
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Try wobbling it rather than forcing it by pulling hard. When you have removed the key put some Vaseline on the o rings and push some inside the hole it goes in. It will be much easier next time.

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Unknown

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Peter brought next idea :
> Try wobbling it rather than forcing it by pulling hard. When you have removed
> the key put some Vaseline on the o rings and push some inside the hole it
> goes in. It will be much easier next time.

Another 12 year old regurgitated post..

Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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Jun 14, 2021, 2:44:14 AM6/14/21
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It may well be, but I recall somebody asking it on another group only
recently, seems a very common problem. One might have thought with today's
boilers and the servicing that goes on such things would be consigned to
the bin of history, like the original post.
I guess that some people do not see the harm in perpetuating a thread
rather than create a new one, unaware of the way Usenet outside works.
Brian

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jon

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Jun 14, 2021, 4:40:57 AM6/14/21
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It's like religion repeating the the same old crap.

Unknown

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Jun 14, 2021, 6:34:35 AM6/14/21
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Brian Gaff (Sofa) laid this down on his screen :
> It may well be, but I recall somebody asking it on another group only
> recently, seems a very common problem. One might have thought with today's
> boilers and the servicing that goes on such things would be consigned to the
> bin of history, like the original post.
> I guess that some people do not see the harm in perpetuating a thread
> rather than create a new one, unaware of the way Usenet outside works.
> Brian

With the answer given several times over in the thread already, even an
answer from me from several years ago.
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