Double glazing and net curtains

[Jim]

OK I'm due for some new double glazing to be fitted any day, don't ask
me any tech questions I'm in social housing and they treat me like a
mushroom so i suspect it's just the cheapest they could find in the
reject bin.

Anyway back OT i know it's not cool nowadays but i do like my net
curtains, now i was wondering how they work in the world of double
glazing, i don't really want to go down the route of screwing anything
into the plastic or using sticky Velcro etc do i have any options other
then the Velcro route or just put up with blinds and every Tom, Dick &
Harry looking into my living room while I'm scratching me nuts?

Jim

[Nthkentman]

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Ask the fitters what they recommend but suspect they'll just say screw the
small eyelets straight into the plastic.
Alternatively wash your nuts more to reduce the infestation or itching

[Andy Cap]

Do a search for extending net curtain pole. Here's one example.

http://www.dunelm-mill.com/shop/net-rod-138293

There was recently a similar question in another forum and whilst I have
always employed the eyelets, many people recommended these poles and
they have the additional benefit of not damaging the frames.

Andy C

[Chris J Dixon]

Jim wrote:

>OK I'm due for some new double glazing to be fitted any day.

>
>i do like my net
>curtains, now i was wondering how they work in the world of double
>glazing, i don't really want to go down the route of screwing anything
>into the plastic or using sticky Velcro etc do i have any options other
>then the Velcro route

Drill and plug to fix the hooks into the sides of the window
reveal.

Chris
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[harry]

Get shower curtain fittings and the pole and secure them to the
reveals.

[Tim Watts]

Fix the wires to the wall either side of the frame?
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[polygonum]

Having tried several other options in an attempt to do no damage to any
frames, including velcro pads and some glues, I did actually use screws.
We use the extending rods and the bits that hold the track have
countersunk holes ready. Wish I had done that to begin with and would
always do so in future. I so hate it when they fall off at annoying
times - which they did with other ways of fixing.

Need a very small drill bit because the screws required are pretty small.

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Rod

[mike]

We had a couple of those at our last place for windows that were
overlooked from the road, and they worked well.

Dunelm Mill (or The Dunny as they're not-so-affectionately known) are
OK if you buy in-store but the usual procedure for ordering online
involves claiming to have it in stock, pissing you around for three or
four weeks and then telling you they haven't actually got it but they
might --- just might --- have it again shortly after hell freezes
over. At which point you realise you need to take your business
elsewhere...

[Brian Gaff]

Nonails??

Araldite???

Brian

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[brass monkey]

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We just screwed the brackets to the plastic, I can't see much wrong with
that.
And yes, I never understood these folks who live in a fish bowl and everyone
can look in, unless they're like Mr & Mrs "The Major" next door, look what
we've got.

[Lobster]

On 18/03/2013 01:35, Jim wrote:

> Anyway back OT i know it's not cool nowadays but i do like my net
> curtains, now i was wondering how they work in the world of double
> glazing, i don't really want to go down the route of screwing anything
> into the plastic or using sticky Velcro etc do i have any options other
> then the Velcro route or just put up with blinds and every Tom, Dick &
> Harry looking into my living room while I'm scratching me nuts?

Two options I've used successfully in the past:

(a) you can get adjustable-length spring-loaded curtain rails which fit
within a recess, with no need for any other fittings etc:

http://tinyurl.com/cradxkl (or
http://www.homebase.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=110&storeId=10151&partNumber=782400)

(b) Fix a couple of plastic so-called self-adhesive hooks to the top
rail of the window:
http://tinyurl.com/c55zec5 (or
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pair-of-self-adhesive-hooks/dp/B001PPJB2C) and
then lay a stiff curtain rod across them. However, I strongly recommend
scraping off the self-adhesive pads, and gluing the hooks in place with
impact adhesive like Evostik; otherwise they will be guaranteed to fall
off (just when you're busy having a good scratch, too).

Method (b) works best for when the window opens; the hooks/rail attach
to the opening pane.

(BTW the above links certainly aren't reccomendations, just examples -
available much cheaper if you look)


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[brass monkey]

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I should add, ours was a bay window using a flexible rail.

[Brian Gaff]

Which reminds me, there really was a person called Annette Curtain at my
junior school, though not sure about the spelling of her surname, I wa too
young to worry.

Brian

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[Dave Liquorice]

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:00:13 +0000, Chris J Dixon wrote:

> Drill and plug to fix the hooks into the sides of the window reveal.

That's probably what I would try but the tension and thus the straight
pull on the eyes/hooks into the reveal is quite high. Getting the normal
small eyes/hooks to hold, if you can get a small enough plug, is probably
not very high.

The expandable rods seem like a good idea but at 1/2" dia a bit on the
big side. I'd rather have something 1/4" dia...

Maybe a bit of over length 1/4" dowel into 1/4" holes in the reveal. One
hole deep enough to take the over length so the other end can be place
into it's hole. If dowel is too flexable 1/4" metal rod of some sort.

Also with nets bear in mind that if the lighting level in the room is
higher than that outside they become effectively transparent from the
outside.

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[Gary]

we use suckers with hooks and extending rod. works ok and easily removable

[polygonum]

Too easily - whenever it decides it wants to! Also, where we would want
them to fix is where the frame has a mitred join so they would not stick.

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[stuart noble]

On 18/03/2013 09:22, Dave Liquorice wrote:

Small screws (size 4 or 6) hold well in hollow pvc but you need a 2mm
drill bit for the pilot hole IME

[SteveW]

On 18/03/2013 01:35, Jim wrote:

I don't know how good they are long term, but at Christmas, we bought
some 3M Command self-adhesive hooks from B&Q. They were used to hold up
Christmas lights, going around internal corners, so some tension on them
and they held well. When no longer needed, a tag of the adhesive pad
could be pulled sideways while holding the hook in place and it peeled
off leaving no marks.

SteveW

[Jim]

On 18/03/2013 05:22, Nthkentman wrote:
>
>
> Alternatively wash your nuts more to reduce the infestation or itching

LOL yea it might help a bit

[Jim]

On 18/03/2013 06:51, Andy Cap wrote:
> extending net curtain pole

Yea thanks for everyone's suggestion the extending net curtain pole is
going to be the way to go as far as the windows are concerned, however
does anyone have any suggestions for balcony doors? As i have it set
right now nets are held in place by hooks and eyes screw things and wire
goes across the whole door, so when i open the door/doors the nets stay
in place and move with them, i see most folks have suggested some form
of adhesive or other, i don't want to go down that route but to be
honest it's looking like the only option.

Jim

[stuart noble]

Ask the installers to do it for you. They're probably used to fitting
blinds for an extra cuppa. Short screws are unlikely to interfere with
the internal door mechanisms, but the fitters should know for sure.

[Jim]

On 19/03/2013 08:06, stuart noble wrote:
> Ask the installers to do it for you. They're probably used to fitting
> blinds for an extra cuppa. Short screws are unlikely to interfere with
> the internal door mechanisms, but the fitters should know for sure.

OK thanks for the advice Stuart, I'll have a word with them when there
here, thanks everybody

Jim

[Anode]

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From long term experience I know that the 3M Command brand sticky pad strips
are excellent for net curtains on plastic window frames. Buy standard net
curtain telescopic rods of the lightweight variety with a rectangular
cross-section about 12mm deep, and standard matching self-adhesive supports.
Remove the self-adhesive pads that are on these supports when you buy them,
and replace with the 3M Command sticky pads. These pads have held up my
curtain rod supports for years without any problem. The 3M pads have a tab
which you can pull to remove the pads whenever you want. The pads need to be
cut to size, and the window frame needs to be well de-greased with, e.g.
alcohol. Pad 17021P Medium will hold a claimed 450g, pad 17023P Large 2kg.

Anode

[Mr Pounder]

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The double glazing bloke will put a couple of screws into the plastic if you
ask him.
He did for me. They seem to know how to do it...
You just hook the curtain wire over the hooks.

[stuart noble]

> The double glazing bloke will put a couple of screws into the plastic if you
> ask him.
> He did for me. They seem to know how to do it...

They just drill a pilot hole. I would think for small screw eyes a 1mm
jobber bit from TS would be about right.

[Mr Pounder]

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Bollocks.
20 years ago I had double glazing fitted.
The wife was giving me hammer about her bloody stupid net curtains so I
asked the guy.
He sank a screw into each end of the plastic. The curtain wire hooked on to
the screws and as far as I know it is still there.
No pilot holes, no 1mm jobber bit from TS. Who the fuck is TS?

[stuart noble]

> http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Power+Tool+Accessories/HSS+Drill+Bits/HSS+Jobber+Metric+Drill+Bit+10mm/d80/sd1250/p23118

I believe hooks and eyes are the norm but by all means use screws, or
coach bolts, if you prefer

[Mrs Bonk]

I used two white cup hooks screwed into the upper reveal (drilled and
rawplugged) and then the extending rail fitted/dropped into them very
nicely.
The glued ones came unstuck. The screws into frame eventually loosened.
The hooks into side wall came out with wires pulling on them.
Cup hooks having no real pressure on them have worked well and it's very
easy to remove the rail and curtain for washing.