Painting asbestos soffits
Keefiedee
have been painted with the pink masonry paint as used on the walls.
They have a tendency to flake over time (? masonry paint not
appropriate), but not everywhere.
I am currently painting the fascia, and am wondering whether it would
be better to:
1. Paint with masonry paint again over the existing paint after
scraping off the flaky bits.
2. Paint with masonry paint after sanding off all the old masonry
paint off first (yes, I know, very carefully, with full protection)
and ? using stabilising solution.
3. Paint over the masonry paint with white primer, undercoat and gloss
over the existing masonry paint after scraping off the flaky bits.
4. Paint over the masonry paint with white primer, undercoat and gloss
after sanding off the old masonry paint off first and ? using
stabilising solution.
All thoughts gratefully received.
Keith
Phil L
Soffits have a tendency to peel no matter which paint you use, although I'm
not sure why as they always seem to me to be the most protected part - they
usually start to peel before the fascias for some reason.....I had a theory
that it could have possibly been the heat radiating out from the walls on
hot days and rising up to the eaves, but having just finished painting a
hipped semi with 3 sides of soffits, 1 North facing, 1 West and 1 South, and
they had all peeled in fairly equal proportions, so that theory has gone out
of the window.
Personally I'd go for undercoat and gloss, and try and do them every 5 years
or so
--
Phil L
RSRL Tipster Of The Year 2008
harry
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The raeson it flakes is water vapour penetration from the side you
can't paint. If both sides were painted to problem would be solved.
(Assuming it was dry when you painted) The accumulations of moisture
behind the paint forces it off.
The answer is to paint with one of these vapour micro-porous paints.
If you are bent on scraping it, wear a mask and don't take the
asbestos cement dust in the house. Ideally wear disposable overalls
and head covering.
js.b1
Chrysotile asbestos fibre soffit cement board - it is perfectly safe
stuff in terms of wet sheet removal, but not so safe when treated in
such an abrasive manner :-)
Soffit boards are often black with mould around house vents, I suspect
humid air exiting the house and condensing on their surface.
Conventional undercoat & gloss tend to act like a plastic bag if one
side is porous to moisture, they will bubble & flake.
You basically want a white stain which is highly permeable. Prehaps
Sikkens onol undercoat on its own would do, it is white, MVP,
overcoatable. I would not use the top-coats because whilst they are
overcoatable every 5-12yrs (depending on which one) after about 4
overcoats you need to restore to original surface. They do "wear" by
chalking rather than flaking. That is probably so far into the future
it does not matter, but you want a paint that can breathe because
soffit boards do suffer moisture loading from the other side.
NT
Once its all off, no need to paint ever again
NT
rbel
> I can not see why anyone would want to scrape/sand the surface of
> Chrysotile asbestos fibre soffit cement board - it is perfectly safe
> stuff in terms of wet sheet removal, but not so safe when treated in
> such an abrasive manner :-)
>
snip
What is 'wet sheet removal'?
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rbel
Phil L
removing sheets of it when it's wet, in that it can't dust up because it's
wet.
That said it's mostly a load of bollocks, a few people died of lung cancer
after working in asbestos factories for 50 years but many more didn't,
nowadays no one will go within 50 yards of it unless they're wearing a
radiation suit, breathing apparatus and 11 pairs of gloves
NT
an enormous toll of people have died from it sadly, and continue to.
But the paranoia over DIY asbestos removal is out of all proportion to
the miniscule risk, the level of exposure from one rigidly
encapsulated asbestos sheets removal per decade is very far removed
from that from working in an asbestos factory for a lifetime with no
safe practices or respiratory protection.
NT
The Natural Philosopher
> On Jul 17, 8:24 pm, "Phil L" <neverchec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> rbel wrote:
>>> On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:00:45 +0200, js.b1 <js...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>> I can not see why anyone would want to scrape/sand the surface of
>>>> Chrysotile asbestos fibre soffit cement board - it is perfectly safe
>>>> stuff in terms of wet sheet removal, but not so safe when treated in
>>>> such an abrasive manner :-)
>>> snip
>>> What is 'wet sheet removal'?
>> removing sheets of it when it's wet, in that it can't dust up because it's
>> wet.
>>
>> That said it's mostly a load of bollocks, a few people died of lung cancer
>> after working in asbestos factories for 50 years but many more didn't,
>> nowadays no one will go within 50 yards of it unless they're wearing a
>> radiation suit, breathing apparatus and 11 pairs of gloves
>
> an enormous toll of people have died from it sadly,
really? In mines and factories and a few other individuals exposed to
e.g. a lot of brake dust.
I cant think of a single case of someone who has been exposed
domestically, dying.
I would be interested to see ANY references..
Ah. a mere google away
http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/causdis/asbestosis/index.htm
hardly am enormous toll of people.
and continue to.
barely. teh peak is certainly passed.
Note also less than 4% of detahs associated with asbestos. How odd, that
all those women living in those absestos loaded homes, haven't died of itl.
Could it be, ahem, that the deaths are only from tehiose who are
continually and heavily exposed to it in mines, factories and industrial
environments?
Surely not. Its such a wicked evil substance merely looking at it can
kill you.
> But the paranoia over DIY asbestos removal is out of all proportion to
> the miniscule risk, the level of exposure from one rigidly
> encapsulated asbestos sheets removal per decade is very far removed
> from that from working in an asbestos factory for a lifetime with no
> safe practices or respiratory protection.
>
>
At last, the truth.
> NT
NT
wrote:
that page only addresses the word of the use asbestosis on death
certs, and most asbestos related deaths dont use that word, only
300-400 per year for certs saying 'asbestosis' A related page on the
site says "There were 2156 mesothelioma deaths in 2007."
> and continue to.
>
> barely. teh peak is certainly passed.
their graph suggests otherwise
> Note also less than 4% of detahs associated with asbestos. How odd, that
> all those women living in those absestos loaded homes, haven't died of itl.
>
> Could it be, ahem, that the deaths are only from tehiose who are
> continually and heavily exposed to it in mines, factories and industrial
> environments?
of course
dennis@home
"NT" <meow...@care2.com> wrote in message
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>> hardly am enormous toll of people.
>
> that page only addresses the word of the use asbestosis on death
> certs, and most asbestos related deaths dont use that word, only
> 300-400 per year for certs saying 'asbestosis' A related page on the
> site says "There were 2156 mesothelioma deaths in 2007."
>
The number has been dropping rapidly as the bad cases have already died of
asbestos related illness.
NT
wrote:
> "NT" <meow2...@care2.com> wrote in message
So you were given a government site reference, which states both in
words and graphically that the rate of death is rising, but you claim
otherwise with no basis offered for your view. Hello Dennis
NT
harry
Asbestos related diseases. Lots of people are affected and don't
know it.Bit about it here.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/causdis/asbestos.htm
You're not seeing the other diseases. There are others. (Same site
different page.)
dennis@home
"NT" <meow...@care2.com> wrote in message
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The recording has changed.
It happens frequently with gov. statistics to baffle the people that just
read the end figures.