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Mike Hibbert

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Nov 4, 2003, 4:56:29 PM11/4/03
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Hi all,

I got up for a pee last night and in the quiet of the night, it sounded like
there was water running downstairs. Not the actual sound of water, but sort
of the "water under pressure" sound from the pipes. Just like it sounds when
you have the washing machine on and you are in another room, you can hear a
mid frequency "roar" from the pipes.

Anyway, when I go into the garage and the bathroom I can hear a background
noise coming from the cold water pipes. Now, I would asume that if no water
is running in the house, then the pipes should not make a sound. Am i right?

If not, then does this sound like I have a leak somewhere??

Cheers
Mike


Lee Blaver

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Nov 4, 2003, 5:00:50 PM11/4/03
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Mike Hibbert wrote:

>
> If not, then does this sound like I have a leak somewhere??
>

Or your neighbours have...

Lee
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Alan

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Nov 4, 2003, 5:31:27 PM11/4/03
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In message <hgVpb.336$9j7.2...@news-text.cableinet.net>, Mike Hibbert
<mike.h...@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote

Did you flush the toilet?
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Jim Rhead

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Nov 4, 2003, 5:53:28 PM11/4/03
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> Anyway, when I go into the garage and the bathroom I can hear a background
> noise coming from the cold water pipes. Now, I would asume that if no
water
> is running in the house, then the pipes should not make a sound. Am i
right?
>
> If not, then does this sound like I have a leak somewhere??
>

I had a similar problem hearing running water, I eventually traced it to my
garden after suddenly getting a marsh under the kitchen window. I was in
rented property and it turned out to be a leak at the outside stopcock. It
took them ages to get the waterboard out to turn the estate water off so
they could replace the stopcock!

Jim

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mike ring

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Nov 4, 2003, 6:16:07 PM11/4/03
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"Mike Hibbert" <mike.h...@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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> If not, then does this sound like I have a leak somewhere??
>

No, you just had one

mike r

Andy Hall

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Nov 4, 2003, 7:46:19 PM11/4/03
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On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:56:29 GMT, "Mike Hibbert"
<mike.h...@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I got up for a pee last night and in the quiet of the night, it sounded like
>there was water running downstairs.

You should have turned the opposite way and into the bathroom.... :-)

>Not the actual sound of water, but sort
>of the "water under pressure" sound from the pipes. Just like it sounds when
>you have the washing machine on and you are in another room, you can hear a
>mid frequency "roar" from the pipes.
>
>Anyway, when I go into the garage and the bathroom I can hear a background
>noise coming from the cold water pipes. Now, I would asume that if no water
>is running in the house, then the pipes should not make a sound. Am i right?

There could be an underground leak in the road or water flow at an
adjoining property. Otherwise, have you checked all ball valves?

>
>If not, then does this sound like I have a leak somewhere??
>
>Cheers
>Mike
>

.andy

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BigWallop

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Nov 4, 2003, 10:09:51 PM11/4/03
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"Mike Hibbert" <mike.h...@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Turn everything off in the house, including your mains stopcock, and then
listen again. If you can still hear it, then it is running somewhere else
out with your property and you'll need to call the water company in to have
it checked out.


PoP

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Nov 5, 2003, 3:52:16 AM11/5/03
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On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:56:29 GMT, "Mike Hibbert"
<mike.h...@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>Anyway, when I go into the garage and the bathroom I can hear a background
>noise coming from the cold water pipes. Now, I would asume that if no water
>is running in the house, then the pipes should not make a sound. Am i right?

"I can hear a background noise...".

The way I would approach this is to turn off every water consuming
device in the house. Then put the sharp end of a screwdriver onto the
pipe and the handle in your ear - this is a great way of listening to
low intensity sounds, and will reveal whether there is water running
or not.

You should be able to trace it from there I would think.

PoP

Gavin Gillespie

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Nov 5, 2003, 5:02:57 AM11/5/03
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"PoP" <E--1...@anyoldtripe.co.uk> wrote in message
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It is almost certainly a leak, and the best way to find out if it is
your responsibility (unless a shared supply) is to turn off the water
at the stop cock in the street, then if the noise stops, the leak is
somewhere on your property, or at the joint with the stop cock.


Dave Liquorice

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Nov 5, 2003, 4:32:27 AM11/5/03
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 03:09:51 GMT, BigWallop wrote:

> Turn everything off in the house, including your mains stopcock, and
> then listen again. If you can still hear it, then it is running

> somewhere else out with your property ...

Then turn of your street stop cock and listen again. Hopefully it is
now quiet otherwise the leak is in your service pipe and you'll have
to pay for it to be repaired, insurance?

> and you'll need to call the water company in to have it checked out.

Or if the leak is at or just after the street stopcock, which is the
boards responsibilty, they'll come and fix it for free.

Hope your not on a meter with the leak after it, a leak that you can
hear singing will be "using" at lot of water...

And a tip to trace the noise, use a short length of something (1/2
dowel, pencil (bit narrow), broom handle (long and big) to touch on
the pipework valve WHY and put the other end just in front of that
little roundish sticky out bit just by your ear canal.

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Witchy

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Nov 5, 2003, 7:59:41 AM11/5/03
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On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:56:29 GMT, "Mike Hibbert"
<mike.h...@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

BTDTGTTS [1]

I had a similar sound going on for weeks in my previous house.
Couldn't fully isolate the house water supply though, 'cos it had
originally been 2 flats and there was 2 stopcocks in the kitchen - one
for downstairs and one for up and I couldn't turn the upstairs one
off.

Anyhoo, the problem eventually manifested itself when a corner of the
yard partially collapsed and I gained a nice water feature - seems
that a lead pipe originally intended for the outside bog (according to
the water board) had been truncated and sealed by bashing the end with
a mallet, then it had been concreted over.

It then sprang a leak and over time blasted away the aggregate until
gravity took over!

Fortunately the water board capped it gratis and for nothing, so good
on Northumbrian Water :)
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Mike Hibbert

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Nov 5, 2003, 2:08:40 PM11/5/03
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"Witchy" <ne...@sruasonidyranib.co.uk> wrote in message
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Cheers all,

I think I will have a good old investigate at the weekend!

Where does my responsibility start and end? Who owns the pipe between the
boundary stop and the kitchen stop?

cheers
Mike

Roger Mills

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Nov 5, 2003, 2:15:34 PM11/5/03
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"Mike Hibbert" <mike.h...@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Cheers all,
>
> I think I will have a good old investigate at the weekend!
>
> Where does my responsibility start and end? Who owns the pipe between the
> boundary stop and the kitchen stop?
>
> cheers
> Mike
>
>
>
I guess you do.

Are you on a metered supply? If so, where is the meter? Can you read the
meter before you go to bed, and again when you get up to see whether any
water has been used?

Roger


Gavin Gillespie

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Nov 5, 2003, 2:33:54 PM11/5/03
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"Mike Hibbert" <mike.h...@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Cheers all,
>
> I think I will have a good old investigate at the weekend!
>
> Where does my responsibility start and end? Who owns the pipe
between the
> boundary stop and the kitchen stop?
>

It is usually the water boards responsibility, from the street stop
cock to the border of your property, then it is up to you, but some
water boards will repair a leak foc if it is straightforward, even on
your property.
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Giltbrook
Nottingham UK


Mike Hibbert

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Nov 5, 2003, 3:33:16 PM11/5/03
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"Dave Liquorice" <new...@howhill.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 03:09:51 GMT, BigWallop wrote:
>
> > Turn everything off in the house, including your mains stopcock, and
> > then listen again. If you can still hear it, then it is running
> > somewhere else out with your property ...
>
> Then turn of your street stop cock and listen again. Hopefully it is
> now quiet otherwise the leak is in your service pipe and you'll have
> to pay for it to be repaired, insurance?

I turned off the house stopcock and the noise continued, if I turn off the
street stopcok and the noise stops then wouldn't this mean that the leak is
in the service pipe then?


BigWallop

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Nov 5, 2003, 4:07:56 PM11/5/03
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"Mike Hibbert" <mike.h...@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Or in another house supplied by the same stopcock. If the street cock only
supplies your property, then the leak is somewhere between the street and
the stopcock in your house.


Peter Scott

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Nov 6, 2003, 11:53:38 AM11/6/03
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There was a great cartoon in Private Eye when Yorkshire Water
was in trouble for leaky pipes. There was a YW man having a
pee in a urinal and it was squirting out of the side of his dick
through a row of holes. Oh well it was funny at the time

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Rick Dipper

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Nov 7, 2003, 11:11:29 AM11/7/03
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Maybe a leak.

I had this once, the leak was in the copper bit of the pipe that was outside the house, not that this is the normal way to do these things.

Rick


On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 21:56:29 GMT, "Mike Hibbert" <mike.h...@nospam.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Ralph Corderoy

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Nov 13, 2003, 6:19:03 PM11/13/03
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Hi Mike,

> I got up for a pee last night and in the quiet of the night, it
> sounded like there was water running downstairs. Not the actual sound
> of water, but sort of the "water under pressure" sound from the pipes.
> Just like it sounds when you have the washing machine on and you are
> in another room, you can hear a mid frequency "roar" from the pipes.

Could it be that the hot water in the HWC, etc., is cooling overnight,
contracting, and you can hear the mains supply `whistleling' as the
valve is slightly open in the loft?

Cheers,

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