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george - dicegeorge
Nov 23, 2012, 4:02:17 PM11/23/12
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I'm fitting wooden joists into holes in a brick wall,
and between blocks.
Is it best to cement them in tight,
or might dampness permeate?
or to leave a gap and wedge them in with wood wedges
and slate underneath
so there's ventilation
(or but a gap for water to get in?)
[george]
and between blocks.
Is it best to cement them in tight,
or might dampness permeate?
or to leave a gap and wedge them in with wood wedges
and slate underneath
so there's ventilation
(or but a gap for water to get in?)
[george]
jgharston
Nov 23, 2012, 7:04:45 PM11/23/12
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When I've done this I've wrapped the joist end in damp proof
membrane before slotting it in, a couple of wedges to hold it,
and then mortared it. Whoever replace my dinining room
floor, though, just rested the joists dry on the cellar walls,
though wrapped in membrane.
JGH
membrane before slotting it in, a couple of wedges to hold it,
and then mortared it. Whoever replace my dinining room
floor, though, just rested the joists dry on the cellar walls,
though wrapped in membrane.
JGH
Bill Wright
Nov 23, 2012, 8:20:15 PM11/23/12
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Bill
harry
Nov 24, 2012, 1:52:13 AM11/24/12
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On Nov 23, 9:03 pm, george - dicegeorge <dicegeo...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
This now considered to be bad practice.
The modern practice is to use joist hangers Which means you don't need
holes in the wall.
It reduces air leaks, is quicker and less chance of the wood
deteriorating in the future.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/joist-hanger-50-x-150mm-pack-of-4/36615
wrote:
The modern practice is to use joist hangers Which means you don't need
holes in the wall.
It reduces air leaks, is quicker and less chance of the wood
deteriorating in the future.
http://www.screwfix.com/p/joist-hanger-50-x-150mm-pack-of-4/36615
Nick Odell
Nov 24, 2012, 5:42:12 AM11/24/12
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meow...@care2.com
Nov 24, 2012, 9:11:57 AM11/24/12
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On Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:52:14 AM UTC, harry wrote:
> On Nov 23, 9:03 pm, george - dicegeorge <dicegeo...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm fitting wooden joists into holes in a brick wall,
> > and between blocks.
> On Nov 23, 9:03 pm, george - dicegeorge <dicegeo...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm fitting wooden joists into holes in a brick wall,
> > and between blocks.
> This now considered to be bad practice.
> The modern practice is to use joist hangers Which means you don't need
> holes in the wall.
> It reduces air leaks, is quicker and less chance of the wood
> deteriorating in the future.
> http://www.screwfix.com/p/joist-hanger-50-x-150mm-pack-of-4/36615
Instead the metal hangers can rust through
> The modern practice is to use joist hangers Which means you don't need
> holes in the wall.
> It reduces air leaks, is quicker and less chance of the wood
> deteriorating in the future.
> http://www.screwfix.com/p/joist-hanger-50-x-150mm-pack-of-4/36615
NT
harry
Nov 24, 2012, 11:22:07 AM11/24/12
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in cement.
So not a problem.
Also joists could be replaced much easier than traditional ones.
Andrew Gabriel
Nov 24, 2012, 2:15:51 PM11/24/12
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In article <167bdd29-9d75-4b84...@googlegroups.com>,
They're galvanised, or even stainless steel nowadays.
If they rust, the timber won't have stood a chance.
--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
If they rust, the timber won't have stood a chance.
--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
george - dicegeorge
Nov 25, 2012, 10:44:52 AM11/25/12
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On 24/11/12 16:22, harry wrote:
> On Nov 24, 2:11 pm, meow2...@care2.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:52:14 AM UTC, harry wrote:
>>> On Nov 23, 9:03 pm, george - dicegeorge <dicegeo...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I'm fitting wooden joists into holes in a brick wall,
>>>> and between blocks.
>>> This now considered to be bad practice.
>>> The modern practice is to use joist hangers Which means you don't need
>>> holes in the wall.
>>> It reduces air leaks, is quicker and less chance of the wood
>>> deteriorating in the future.
>>> http://www.screwfix.com/p/joist-hanger-50-x-150mm-pack-of-4/36615
>>Words for EVERYBODY - yes, even you!
> On Nov 24, 2:11 pm, meow2...@care2.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:52:14 AM UTC, harry wrote:
>>> On Nov 23, 9:03 pm, george - dicegeorge <dicegeo...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I'm fitting wooden joists into holes in a brick wall,
>>>> and between blocks.
>>> This now considered to be bad practice.
>>> The modern practice is to use joist hangers Which means you don't need
>>> holes in the wall.
>>> It reduces air leaks, is quicker and less chance of the wood
>>> deteriorating in the future.
>>> http://www.screwfix.com/p/joist-hanger-50-x-150mm-pack-of-4/36615
>> Instead the metal hangers can rust through
>>
>> NT
>
> They are on the inner leaf, quite thick steel, galvanised and embedded
> in cement.
> So not a problem.
> Also joists could be replaced much easier than traditional ones.
>
They are between an inside wall and an I beam
>>
>> NT
>
> They are on the inner leaf, quite thick steel, galvanised and embedded
> in cement.
> So not a problem.
> Also joists could be replaced much easier than traditional ones.
>
so I hope dampness wont be a problem.
I couldnt find joist hangers that size,
and want a ceiling on my bedroom by christmas
so i'm putting them in slots.
thganks
[george]
george - dicegeorge
Nov 25, 2012, 10:47:01 AM11/25/12
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to help convey the sense of my posts.
You’re not printing them so its not wasting paper!
In a few years lots of people will be doing this too!
[g]
jgharston
Nov 25, 2012, 10:52:32 AM11/25/12
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george wrote:
> I'm using line ends as punctuation,
> to help convey the sense of my posts.
It's haiku ;)
> I'm using line ends as punctuation,
> to help convey the sense of my posts.
JGH
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