New toilet...how far from wall?

[mark]

I'm putting a close coupled toilet in the corner.
How far from the side wall should it be as a minimum?

mark

[Nick Odell]

On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:19:58 +0100, "mark"

How lardy is the largest user going to be? Lardy users have to splay
their legs apart too. Please don't ask me how I know this.

Nick

[mark]

"Nick Odell" <gurzhfvp...@ntlworld.com.invalid> wrote in message
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I shan't be letting pan crackers anywhere near it.
Apparently BS 6465 covers dimensions

The pdf can be downloaded here for only £178

http://shop.bsigroup.com/ProductDetail/?pid=000000000030200316

mark

[John Rumm]

You can usually get them free from your local library web site... (it
redirects to the BSI page after you have entered your library card number)


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[brass monkey]

"mark" <ma...@reepham2003.force9.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> I'm putting a close coupled toilet in the corner.
> How far from the side wall should it be as a minimum?
>
> mark

LOL, a very important question. The loo at a mate of mine is so close to the
wall, unless you're a southpaw you can't wipe your backside.

[Andrew Gabriel]

In article <5049d147$0$28130$c3e8da3$ff95...@news.astraweb.com>,

Another one I came across, a loo fitted under a sloping ceiling.
The girl who lived in that flat unfortuately fell for a 6'6" tall
guy. He discovered, with practice, that he could pee into it if
he stood in the doorway and aimed across the room...

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Andrew Gabriel
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[Grimly Curmudgeon]

On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:19:58 +0100, "mark"
<ma...@reepham2003.force9.co.uk> wrote:

>
>

>I'm putting a close coupled toilet in the corner.
>How far from the side wall should it be as a minimum?

Far enough clearance so your knees don't hit the wall, and it's
annoying how many are too close, being designed for skinny dwarves.

[Adam Funk]

By "into", you mean "around and into"? ;-)

[andrew]

In our designs we use a guideline measurement of a toilet needing a space 800mm wide, so 400mm from the centre to the wall. You can get away with a smidgen less if you have to, but that is fairly comfortable. You'll need a bit more if that wall has a heated towel rail on it, positioned just where your knees go - I've seen that done a couple of times.

A

[eeyore....@gmail.com]

12 inches from the centreline of the toilet to the sidewall (or other obstruction, like sink). Most men are only about 18" wide or less in total so that leaves three inches of clearance. That's a minimum of course, you can increase this dimension. I have fitted my two bathroom's toilets to this dimension and it's very practical, unless you are 6'5" and play American football and are wearing the gear to the toilet ;0)

14" is the recommended space either side of a bidet to allow you to spread your legs, but who has one of these infernal French contraptions anyway?

The clearance in front of the toilet (from the front rim) is a minimum of 24".

[Tim Lamb]

In message <EMmdnYnTT9pjJtTN...@brightview.co.uk>, mark
<ma...@reepham2003.force9.co.uk> writes

>
>
>I'm putting a close coupled toilet in the corner.
>How far from the side wall should it be as a minimum?

To avoid just this problem I have opted for a *yet to be fitted* corner
cistern loo. (Twyford GP1148)

regards

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Tim Lamb

[Andy Burns]

eeyore....@gmail.com wrote:

> On Friday, 7 September 2012 10:18:55 UTC+1, mark wrote:
>
>> I'm putting a close coupled toilet in the corner.
>> How far from the side wall should it be as a minimum?
>>

> 12 inches from the centreline of the toilet to the sidewall

> it's very practical, unless you are 6'5"
> and play American football

I'm 6'4" and on the lardy side, just measured current loo at 16" centre
to wall, which is fine, 14" would be OK but allow for less "splay" and
12" would be "tight" on knees and elbows.

[eeyore....@gmail.com]

On Friday, 7 September 2012 10:18:55 UTC+1, mark wrote:

Like I said, it's a minimum - I'm 5'10" and average build and 12" from the loo centreline to the sidewall is fine - both my loos are set at this distance. I cite as my 'authority' *ahem*, not just the fact that my loos are set at this distance, but the Collins Complete DIY Manual which in turn I suspect got its distances from an actual recommended practice document.

But sure, if I were 6'5" and built like a...brick sh1thouse...I might prefer a few extra inches room. Depends on the size of the loo as well. Mine are small and you have to pack a lot in. One side of my bathroom sink overhangs the tap end side of the bath a little for instance.

[Andy Champ]

On 08/09/2012 16:23, eeyore....@gmail.com wrote:
> Like I said, it's a minimum - I'm 5'10" and average build and 12" from the loo centreline to the sidewall is fine - both my loos are set at this distance. I cite as my 'authority'*ahem*, not just the fact that my loos are set at this distance, but the Collins Complete DIY Manual which in turn I suspect got its distances from an actual recommended practice document.
>
> But sure, if I were 6'5" and built like a...brick sh1thouse...I might prefer a few extra inches room. Depends on the size of the loo as well. Mine are small and you have to pack a lot in. One side of my bathroom sink overhangs the tap end side of the bath a little for instance.

I'm 6'1" and trying not to be 13 stone. And 12 inches might be OK -
just - as a quick measure gets me as 20 inches across the shoulders. I
think I'd bang my elbows a lot.

Andy

[The Other Mike]

On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 11:48:44 +0100, John Rumm <see.my.s...@nowhere.null>
wrote:

>On 07/09/2012 11:06, mark wrote:
>> "Nick Odell" <gurzhfvp...@ntlworld.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:thgj48hnn06s99r68...@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:19:58 +0100, "mark"
>>> <ma...@reepham2003.force9.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm putting a close coupled toilet in the corner.
>>>> How far from the side wall should it be as a minimum?
>>>>
>>>> mark
>>>>
>>> How lardy is the largest user going to be? Lardy users have to splay
>>> their legs apart too. Please don't ask me how I know this.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I shan't be letting pan crackers anywhere near it.
>> Apparently BS 6465 covers dimensions
>>
>> The pdf can be downloaded here for only �178
>>
>> http://shop.bsigroup.com/ProductDetail/?pid=000000000030200316
>
>You can usually get them free from your local library web site... (it
>redirects to the BSI page after you have entered your library card number)

I heard a few weeks ago that the BSI have (had?) temporarily disabled external
BSI access via libraries due to 'misuse'

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[Andrew Gabriel]

In article <ijcs48d3m0dlms53k...@4ax.com>,

The Other Mike <rootpa...@somewhereorother.com> writes:
> I heard a few weeks ago that the BSI have (had?) temporarily disabled external
> BSI access via libraries due to 'misuse'

They're worried someone might read the documents?

[John Rumm]

On 10/09/2012 20:31, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
> In article <ijcs48d3m0dlms53k...@4ax.com>,
> The Other Mike <rootpa...@somewhereorother.com> writes:
>> I heard a few weeks ago that the BSI have (had?) temporarily disabled external
>> BSI access via libraries due to 'misuse'

Just tried it from the Essex libraries site and it seems to be working
normally.

> They're worried someone might read the documents?

Or worse, compile a list of those which are content free and they would
like to charge over �100 for!

[The Other Mike]

On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:31:34 +0000 (UTC), and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew
Gabriel) wrote:

>In article <ijcs48d3m0dlms53k...@4ax.com>,
> The Other Mike <rootpa...@somewhereorother.com> writes:
>> I heard a few weeks ago that the BSI have (had?) temporarily disabled external
>> BSI access via libraries due to 'misuse'
>
>They're worried someone might read the documents?

I think it was a case of 'at home' the method of access and a flaw in Acrobat
meant that users could download copies that were then distributable thus
bypassing the normal BSI 'subscription'

Commercial BSI subscriptions in my experience always carry an overprint in the
margins to identify where, when, and by whom the document was downloaded (easily
cropped of course) but I believe that some (all?) library derived copies were
'clean'

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[John Rumm]

On 12/09/2012 22:59, The Other Mike wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:31:34 +0000 (UTC), and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk (Andrew
> Gabriel) wrote:
>
>> In article <ijcs48d3m0dlms53k...@4ax.com>,
>> The Other Mike <rootpa...@somewhereorother.com> writes:
>>> I heard a few weeks ago that the BSI have (had?) temporarily disabled external
>>> BSI access via libraries due to 'misuse'
>>
>> They're worried someone might read the documents?
>
> I think it was a case of 'at home' the method of access and a flaw in Acrobat
> meant that users could download copies that were then distributable thus
> bypassing the normal BSI 'subscription'

That is still the case - even if it does not allow for explicit download
(which it normally does), you can copy the file from the temp directory
while "viewing" the doc.

> Commercial BSI subscriptions in my experience always carry an overprint in the
> margins to identify where, when, and by whom the document was downloaded (easily
> cropped of course) but I believe that some (all?) library derived copies were
> 'clean'

Yup the home downloaded ones also state the library they are from
(although I can't see an obvious unique id for the downloaded).

The marking is on the left of the page, and can be cropped off in the
full version of acrobat.