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sm_jamieson

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Feb 21, 2012, 5:31:46 AM2/21/12
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A mate had a gas cooker condemned because when the lid was put down over the burners the safety cutout did not work - a fire risk. No requirement to have a lid at all, so surely its OK to just remove the lid, which he did.
A gas bloke said this would be OK but then phoned back and said it would not since the cooker would still fail a safety test as "modified".
Anyone know what should be permitted here ?
Cheers,
Simon.

sm_jamieson

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Feb 21, 2012, 5:50:16 AM2/21/12
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Changed subject - well its not a "safety lid" is it ?

TMC

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Feb 21, 2012, 6:59:43 AM2/21/12
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"sm_jamieson" <sm_ja...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Interesting

My cooker has a lid which if closed cuts off the gas

However there is no flame failure device so if the lid is up and the gas on
close the lid flame goes out open lid gas back on no flame

Or if the flame blows out

So mine has never been safe

I assume that modern gas hobs all have flame failure devices

Regards

charles

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Feb 21, 2012, 7:09:33 AM2/21/12
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In article <0LmdnaA2FYepGt7S...@bt.com>,
there are other ways. In commercial kitchens there is (should be) a gas
valve in the supply which won't operate unless the extractor fan is
switched on.

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Mike Barnes

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Feb 21, 2012, 7:23:28 AM2/21/12
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TMC <an...@nowhere.co.uk>:
Same here.

>I assume that modern gas hobs all have flame failure devices

Ours is 1997 vintage.

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Jonathan

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Feb 21, 2012, 7:24:33 AM2/21/12
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On Feb 21, 11:59 am, "TMC" <a...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
> "sm_jamieson" <sm_jamie...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Mine doesn't - three years old.

Jonathan

Andrew Gabriel

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Feb 21, 2012, 8:13:48 AM2/21/12
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In article <0LmdnaA2FYepGt7S...@bt.com>,
"TMC" <an...@nowhere.co.uk> writes:
> My cooker has a lid which if closed cuts off the gas
>
> However there is no flame failure device so if the lid is up and the gas on
> close the lid flame goes out open lid gas back on no flame
>
> Or if the flame blows out
>
> So mine has never been safe

Traditionally, gas burners didn't give off enough gas to reach
the explosive level in a house with the expected number of air
changes per hour. Cookers with a large wok or fish kettle
burner would have a flame failure detector on that large burner.

Nowadays, with new homes being air-tight, this may have changed.

> I assume that modern gas hobs all have flame failure devices

Do they? I haven't looked at a new gas cooker for years, but a
change in requirements for air-tight homes could well have
caused that.

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TMC

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Feb 21, 2012, 8:51:44 AM2/21/12
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"Andrew Gabriel" <and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Found this

http://direct.tesco.com/content/specials/gas.aspx

Steve Walker

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Feb 21, 2012, 4:43:44 PM2/21/12
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On 21/02/2012 12:09, charles wrote:
> In article<0LmdnaA2FYepGt7S...@bt.com>,
> TMC<an...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "sm_jamieson"<sm_ja...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:11535090.4282.1329820306870.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbfm8...
>>> A mate had a gas cooker condemned because when the lid was put down over
>>> the burners the safety cutout did not work - a fire risk. No requirement to
>>> have a lid at all, so surely its OK to just remove the lid, which he did.
>>> A gas bloke said this would be OK but then phoned back and said it would
>>> not since the cooker would still fail a safety test as "modified".
>>> Anyone know what should be permitted here ?
>>> Cheers,
>>> Simon.
>
>> Interesting
>
>> My cooker has a lid which if closed cuts off the gas
>
>> However there is no flame failure device so if the lid is up and the gas on
>> close the lid flame goes out open lid gas back on no flame

Interesting. Our cheap model cooker is safer in that respect. Close the
lid and it machanically returns all the gas knobs to the off position.

>> Or if the flame blows out

If the minimum (simmer) setting is set up correctly, it's very hard to
accidentally blow out a gas cooker.

SteveW

bkha...@gmail.com

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Jul 26, 2018, 2:27:59 PM7/26/18
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Your wrong lol and obviously don't have a clue about what your saying

John Rumm

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Jul 26, 2018, 6:01:44 PM7/26/18
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On 26/07/2018 19:27, bkha...@gmail.com wrote:

> Your wrong lol and obviously don't have a clue about what your saying

We have no idea what you are talking about.


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Graham.

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Jul 26, 2018, 7:09:22 PM7/26/18
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>On 26/07/2018 19:27, bkha...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Your wrong lol and obviously don't have a clue about what your saying
>
>We have no idea what you are talking about.

He's arguing with someone from 2012, and dosn't know the difference
between you're and your.
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Graham.

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Jul 26, 2018, 7:12:09 PM7/26/18
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>>On 26/07/2018 19:27, bkha...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Your wrong lol and obviously don't have a clue about what your saying
>>
>>We have no idea what you are talking about.
>
>He's arguing with someone from 2012, and dosn't know the difference
>between you're and your.

Fucking hell Skitts strikes again
**doesn't**
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