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Wesley

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Nov 20, 2012, 7:16:12 PM11/20/12
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I recently bought a new oven from Argos which is to be delivered on the
weekend and I paid about �8 for them to take away and recycle our old
cooker.

Tonight I noticed a wanted ad on our local Freecycle website for an electric
cooker. I replied and they are collecting it tomorrow - for free.

It got me thinking.

What is the 'weigh in' price at the scrappers for old cookers, which are
very heavy and almost 100 per cent metal, and does this outweigh what Argos
are charging me for recycling. If the 'weigh in' price is greater that the
price I am paying to have the cooker recycled, then it would appear to be a
nice little earner for Argos.

It also got me wondering if the ad on Freecycle was from a person who
genuinely needed an electric cooker or some pikeys collecting scrap metal.


John Rumm

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Nov 20, 2012, 7:23:36 PM11/20/12
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On 21/11/2012 00:16, Wesley wrote:
> I recently bought a new oven from Argos which is to be delivered on the
> weekend and I paid about Ł8 for them to take away and recycle our old
> cooker.
>
> Tonight I noticed a wanted ad on our local Freecycle website for an electric
> cooker. I replied and they are collecting it tomorrow - for free.
>
> It got me thinking.
>
> What is the 'weigh in' price at the scrappers for old cookers, which are
> very heavy and almost 100 per cent metal, and does this outweigh what Argos
> are charging me for recycling. If the 'weigh in' price is greater that the
> price I am paying to have the cooker recycled, then it would appear to be a
> nice little earner for Argos.
>
> It also got me wondering if the ad on Freecycle was from a person who
> genuinely needed an electric cooker or some pikeys collecting scrap metal.

I recently weighed in 160kg of scrap steel and cast iron - worth about Ł17.

So for ferrous stuff - pennies per kilo. Copper/brass on the other hand,
several quid a kilo.


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Wesley

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Nov 20, 2012, 7:32:49 PM11/20/12
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"John Rumm" <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote in message
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> On 21/11/2012 00:16, Wesley wrote:
>> I recently bought a new oven from Argos which is to be delivered on the
>> weekend and I paid about �8 for them to take away and recycle our old
>> cooker.
>>
>> Tonight I noticed a wanted ad on our local Freecycle website for an
>> electric
>> cooker. I replied and they are collecting it tomorrow - for free.
>>
>> It got me thinking.
>>
>> What is the 'weigh in' price at the scrappers for old cookers, which are
>> very heavy and almost 100 per cent metal, and does this outweigh what
>> Argos
>> are charging me for recycling. If the 'weigh in' price is greater that
>> the
>> price I am paying to have the cooker recycled, then it would appear to be
>> a
>> nice little earner for Argos.
>>
>> It also got me wondering if the ad on Freecycle was from a person who
>> genuinely needed an electric cooker or some pikeys collecting scrap
>> metal.
>
> I recently weighed in 160kg of scrap steel and cast iron - worth about
> �17.
>
> So for ferrous stuff - pennies per kilo. Copper/brass on the other hand,
> several quid a kilo.
>
Lets assume my cooker weighs about 100kg. Argos has to send their lorry to
my address (and lots of others) during the day and return empty. Why not
make up for this by loading up with scrap metal, charging the punters for
the service, and making more money from the scrap value?


John Rumm

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Nov 20, 2012, 8:24:27 PM11/20/12
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Seems a bit excessive for a cooker...

> my address (and lots of others) during the day and return empty. Why not
> make up for this by loading up with scrap metal, charging the punters for
> the service, and making more money from the scrap value?

Indeed - nothing to lose from their point of view - they get paid twice,
once to collect it, and again when disposing. Having said that, there
are costs of keeping a vehicle on the road each year, and for other
stuff like waste transfer licenses, insurance etc.

Bob Eager

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Nov 20, 2012, 8:37:57 PM11/20/12
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They probably make up for it even more by charging for delivery.



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David WE Roberts

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Nov 21, 2012, 3:11:05 AM11/21/12
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"Wesley" <w...@spamoff.com> wrote in message
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Probably �5-�10.
So hardly worth driving to the nearest scrap yard.

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GB

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Nov 21, 2012, 3:37:05 AM11/21/12
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On 21/11/2012 01:24, John Rumm wrote:

> Indeed - nothing to lose from their point of view - they get paid twice,
> once to collect it, and again when disposing. Having said that, there
> are costs of keeping a vehicle on the road each year, and for other
> stuff like waste transfer licenses, insurance etc.

What sort of insulation do these cookers have in them?



Brian Gaff

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Nov 21, 2012, 4:12:35 AM11/21/12
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No the pikeys would get your details then sneak around after dark and take
it away along with any wire or plumbing they can get their hands on.

Brian

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"Wesley" <w...@spamoff.com> wrote in message
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>I recently bought a new oven from Argos which is to be delivered on the
>weekend and I paid about Ł8 for them to take away and recycle our old

harry

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Nov 21, 2012, 4:17:16 AM11/21/12
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Our local freecycle is a peculiar thing.
I have had people ring up within thirty seconds of me putting stuff on
there, I think there are lots of pikeys constantly monitoring it. They
usually turn up in a transit size van.

But absolutely any bit of shit, someone will want it and come and take
it away.
Not all have been pikeys.

Dave Liquorice

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Nov 21, 2012, 4:46:11 AM11/21/12
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:24:27 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

>> Lets assume my cooker weighs about 100kg.
>
> Seems a bit excessive for a cooker...

For an ordinary 500/600 mm bog standard gas/electric one yes. They are
mostly a reasonable one person handle so not much more than 30kg.

If it's an aga, it's a *very* small aga at 100kg...

As for scrap value not a lot, unless you have a scrappy next door you'll
spend more in fuel than you'll get for it.

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Roland Perry

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Nov 21, 2012, 5:09:33 AM11/21/12
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In message
<bf21b727-d4c0-4923...@n8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, at
01:17:16 on Wed, 21 Nov 2012, harry <harry...@btinternet.com>
remarked:
>But absolutely any bit of shit, someone will want it and come and take
>it away.

It failed to shift my almost new spare[1] microwave (about Ł50 worth) so
it's on eBay at 99p now. No bids.

[1] Bought it to use while doing building work, before the rest of my
effects arrived.
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Fredxx

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Nov 21, 2012, 6:23:50 AM11/21/12
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On 21/11/2012 00:16, Wesley wrote:
> I recently bought a new oven from Argos which is to be delivered on the
> weekend and I paid about Ł8 for them to take away and recycle our old
> cooker.
>
> Tonight I noticed a wanted ad on our local Freecycle website for an electric
> cooker. I replied and they are collecting it tomorrow - for free.
>
> It got me thinking.
>
> What is the 'weigh in' price at the scrappers for old cookers, which are
> very heavy and almost 100 per cent metal, and does this outweigh what Argos
> are charging me for recycling. If the 'weigh in' price is greater that the
> price I am paying to have the cooker recycled, then it would appear to be a
> nice little earner for Argos.
>
> It also got me wondering if the ad on Freecycle was from a person who
> genuinely needed an electric cooker or some pikeys collecting scrap metal.
>
>

Scrap steel is worth anything up to Ł150 per ton. Less the hassle and
cost of separating the steel from all the other components of the cooker.

I would have thought the average electric cooker is 30-50kg, so at most
has a direct scrap value of Ł5!!

mogga

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Nov 21, 2012, 6:55:39 AM11/21/12
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:17:16 -0800 (PST), harry
<harry...@btinternet.com> wrote:


>Our local freecycle is a peculiar thing.
>I have had people ring up within thirty seconds of me putting stuff on
>there, I think there are lots of pikeys constantly monitoring it. They
>usually turn up in a transit size van.
>
>But absolutely any bit of shit, someone will want it and come and take
>it away.
>Not all have been pikeys.


We have people ask for the moon on the stick. Oh wait, no that was me
after a spate of really silly requests for things like cars and other
expensive stuff.

You can shift almost anything.
I tried to get rid of a load of jars and weeks later had replies after
they've all gone.
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Owain

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Nov 21, 2012, 11:05:24 AM11/21/12
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On Nov 21, 11:24 am, Fredxx wrote:
> I would have thought the average electric cooker is 30-50kg, so at most
> has a direct scrap value of £5!!

Can be worth selling the grill-pan, shelves etc separately as spares.

Owain

muddy...@gmail.com

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Aug 27, 2014, 6:55:47 AM8/27/14
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Ur nasty I'm a gypsy we ain't all bad Iv got arga to sell for srcape and come across you bad mouthing my people I hope they put a curse on real bad one and there true and iv seen them worck . U are a wicked

mark

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Aug 27, 2014, 7:19:09 AM8/27/14
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<muddy...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ur nasty I'm a gypsy we ain't all bad Iv got arga to sell for srcape and
> come across you bad mouthing my people I hope they put a curse on real
> bad one and there true and iv seen them worck . U are a wicked

My drive needs re-doing. You wouldn't happen to be doing a job up the road
and got some left over tarmac?

mark


Brian Gaff

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Aug 27, 2014, 7:22:23 AM8/27/14
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Ooer missus.
Brian

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Brian Gaff

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Aug 27, 2014, 11:08:05 AM8/27/14
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What he needs is a course on written English by the look of it, but to set
the record straight. There are Gypsies, who always clear up after themselves
and are no problem at all, and there are travellers who seem to think
everyone is a mug and everywhere is a rubbish tip.

Brian

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Tim Watts

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Aug 27, 2014, 11:17:37 AM8/27/14
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On 27/08/14 11:55, muddy...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ur nasty I'm a gypsy we ain't all bad

Maybe - but your writing is!

Curse? I've already endured a curse reading that drivel.
Message has been deleted

j...@mdfs.net

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Aug 27, 2014, 3:14:36 PM8/27/14
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Wesley wrote:
> I recently bought a new oven from Argos which is to be delivered on
> the weekend and I paid about �8 for them to take away and recycle
> our old cooker.

You have to *pay* to get rid of a cooker? I just leave mine on the
front path and the cooker fairies take it away.

jgh

Grimly Curmudgeon

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Aug 27, 2014, 9:29:30 PM8/27/14
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 03:55:47 -0700 (PDT), muddy...@gmail.com wrote:

>Ur nasty I'm a gypsy we ain't all bad Iv got arga to sell for srcape and come across you bad mouthing my people I hope they put a curse on real bad one and there true and iv seen them worck . U are a wicked

Thesa ARGA parts - they wouldn't be off an old battleship?

gypsyman uk

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replying to Wesley, gypsyman uk wrote:
be very careful what you put down in writing. pikey is a racist word and could
find you in a lot of trouble. so think before you start putting labels on
people

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Bill Wright

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Jun 17, 2017, 3:55:28 PM6/17/17
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On 17/06/2017 20:14, gypsyman uk wrote:
> replying to Wesley, gypsyman uk wrote:
> be very careful what you put down in writing. pikey is a racist word and
> could
> find you in a lot of trouble. so think before you start putting labels on
> people
>
Yes, the free speech that our forefathers won for us has been sacrificed
on the altar of political correctness.

Bill

Max Demian

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Jun 17, 2017, 4:17:07 PM6/17/17
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On 17/06/2017 20:14, gypsyman uk wrote:
> replying to Wesley, gypsyman uk wrote:
> be very careful what you put down in writing. pikey is a racist word and
> could
> find you in a lot of trouble. so think before you start putting labels on
> people

What about didicoy?

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Geo

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Jun 17, 2017, 4:58:17 PM6/17/17
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On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 20:55:26 +0100, Bill Wright
<wrights...@f2s.com> wrote:

>Yes, the free speech that our forefathers won for us has been sacrificed
>on the altar of political correctness.

Maybe in 2012, when the post was made, you could calll a spade a
spade....

The Natural Philosopher

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Jun 18, 2017, 4:25:48 AM6/18/17
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On 17/06/17 20:14, gypsyman uk wrote:
> replying to Wesley, gypsyman uk wrote:
> be very careful what you put down in writing. pikey is a racist word and
> could
> find you in a lot of trouble. so think before you start putting labels on
> people
>
Well we don't have to, when they put them on themselves, do we?

So gyspsyman, why do you call yourself that? Is it subconscious racism
that seeks to mark you out as somehow different?

Why are you wearing your ethnicity on your sleeve, if not because you
think it makes a difference?

I suggest you are just another spoilt child seeking attention, claiming
victim status because they are too pathetic to get up off their arses
and try living

FOAD




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Jun 18, 2017, 9:10:06 AM6/18/17
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On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 19:14:02 +0000, gypsyman uk wrote:

> replying to Wesley, gypsyman uk wrote:
> be very careful what you put down in writing. pikey is a racist word and
> could find you in a lot of trouble. so think before you start putting
> labels on people

Just checking - is a small Pikey a Pikelet?

If so, you can buy them in the shops.

Sort of crumpet that has spread a bit in the middle.



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Roger Hayter

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Jun 18, 2017, 3:21:43 PM6/18/17
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i don't think we ever had free speech; though fashions in what we are
allowed to say change over the years.


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