[Wokery] London Overground lines name changes

[Spike]

No Blitz line or Battle of Britain line or Doodlebug line…

<https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/15/tube-map-set-huge-change-overground-lines-given-names-colours-20284099/?ico=mosaic_tag>

The Lioness line (yellow):

This will between Euston and Watford Junction.

The line honours the England women’s football team winning Euro 2022 at
Wembley which is on the line.

The Mildmay line (blue):

This will run between Stratford and Richmond/Clapham Junction.

The line is named after Mildmay Mission Hospital in Shoreditch, which
specialises in HIV related illnesses.

The Windrush line (red):

This will run between Highbury & Islington and Clapham Junction/New
Cross/Crystal Palace/West Croydon.

The name honours the Windrush generation, who came to the UK from the
Caribbean to fill labour shortages after the Second World War and runs
through communities linked to the Caribbean.

The Weaver line (maroon):

This will run between Liverpool Street and Cheshunt/Enfield Town/Chingford.
The line runs through areas known for the textile trade.

The Suffragette line (green):

This will run between Gospel Oak and Barking Riverside.

This is in tribute to the movement that fought for votes for women. Barking
was home to suffragette Annie Huggett, who lived to 103.

The Liberty line (grey):

This will run between Romford and Upminster.

This celebrates how Havering, which the line runs through, historically had
more self-governance through being a royal liberty.

[Full article at the link above]

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Spike

[Spike]

Popular alternatives to the new names:

<https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/16/london-overground-lines-already-given-new-nicknames-20294532/?ico=more_text_links>

Note that the Lioness Line seems popular as is.

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Spike

[The Natural Philosopher]

WALLOW
What A Lovely Load Of Wank.

--
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false face for the
urge to rule it.”
– H. L. Mencken

[Nomen Nescio]

No real names: golder green, silvertown, bar-king, goldhawke road, cat- ford, croydon, rundell, brent, stam-ford, stepney green...
How the West is being over run and bastardised by khazars and e europeans. Time to wipe out all forced changes worldwide, e europe and
real gas chambers for wht rapen and murdered in the West cirac 700 years ago. Same will be appled to their
boot polishers aka goyim no matter how far related. Use nukes on e europe...

[Tim Streater]

On 17 Feb 2024 at 11:11:15 GMT, "Spike" <aero....@mail.com> wrote:

> Spike <aero....@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No Blitz line or Battle of Britain line or Doodlebug line…
>>
>> <https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/15/tube-map-set-huge-change-overground-lines-given-names-colours-20284099/?ico=mosaic_tag>
>>
>> The Lioness line (yellow):
>>
>> This will between Euston and Watford Junction.
>>
>> The line honours the England women’s football team winning Euro 2022 at
>> Wembley which is on the line.

[snip]

>> [Full article at the link above]
>
> Popular alternatives to the new names:
>
> <https://metro.co.uk/2024/02/16/london-overground-lines-already-given-new-nicknames-20294532/?ico=more_text_links>
>
> Note that the Lioness Line seems popular as is.

It was always a stupid name, even before this announcement.

--
The truth of the matter is that we Scots have always been more divided amongst ourselves than pitted against the English. Scottish history before the Union of Parliaments is a gloomy, violent tale of murders, feuds, and tribal revenge. Only after the Act of Union did Highlanders and Lowlanders, Picts and Celts, begin to recognise one another as fellow citizens.

Tam Dalyell

[Cursitor Doom]

Giving the network stupid-arse names won't help. The whole rail system
in the UK is as hopeless a shambles as its government. I'm sure
there's a connection there somewhere.

[The Natural Philosopher]

It has been a shambles my entire lifetime. Since the 1950s. Through all
kinds of governments.

Perhaps governments are just crap at running stuff?


--
"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted
man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest
thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him."

- Leo Tolstoy

[Tim Streater]

Ah, you mean that this govt has been in office since railways came in nearly
200 years ago? Gosh - who knew!

--
Socialism: For people who lack the charisma to be train spotters.

Ann Sheridan

[mechanic]

On 17 Feb 2024 16:14:29 GMT, Tim Streater wrote:

> Ah, you mean that this govt has been in office since railways came in nearly
> 200 years ago? Gosh - who knew!

It just seems like it!

[The Natural Philosopher]

Indeed.
For a time railways were massively profitable. Then came the car and the bus



--
If I had all the money I've spent on drink...
..I'd spend it on drink.

Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)

[The Natural Philosopher]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XZGddMeRXU

--
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and
wrong.

H.L.Mencken

[Tim Streater]

On 17 Feb 2024 at 18:15:34 GMT, "The Natural Philosopher"

Yes. No transport method has an inherent right to exist, any more than buggy
whips did when the car came along. The railways displaced the canals for
transport, even though the canals themselves were a vast improvement over
horse and cart over unmade roads.

Still, these self-evident facts appear unpalatable to our dinosaur trade
unions (the RMT comes to mind). And if Kier "Interesting" Starmer gets the nod
at the next election, we can look for a lot more where the RMT came from.

--
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-- Tim Berners-Lee

[The Natural Philosopher]

Company boards exist to steer companies to the benefit of shareholders
as unions exist to represent their members best interests to whoever, no
matter what other damage it does.

Whether Scargill actually destroyed the coal industry is moot. But he
certainly didn't help it survive, any more than the unionised car
industry was going to survive.

Personally I believe the future of the rail network is in a driverless
freight trains with bar coded containers sorted by computers. The
ultimate physical packet switched network.

With freight off the roads for long haul, there is now room for the few
private cars necessary.

Commuting too is probably on the way out as more and more people work
from home.

Back in the 1840s people simply didn't travel. They lived where they
worked and probably in tied accommodation.

In the 2100s I think people will be working where they live. And
shopping online. Towns will be merely places for recreation. Although
the way things are going, they will simply become giant dormitories for
plebs. With no cars at all.


--
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over
the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

Frédéric Bastiat

[Andy Burns]

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> I believe the future of the rail network is in a driverless freight
> trains with bar coded containers sorted by computers.

Railways in the UK and USA were experimenting with barcodes to track
rolling-stock from the 50s/60s, e.g.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KarTrak>

[brian]

In message <l3bi4t...@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<aero....@mail.com> writes

>
>This celebrates how Havering, which the line runs through, historically had
>more self-governance through being a royal liberty.

I thought it was more famous for people who talk a lot of nonsense.

Brian
--
Brian Howie

[The Natural Philosopher]

Not much use without scanners and computers though.

[Fredxx]

On 17/02/2024 21:22, Tim Streater wrote:

<snip>

> And if Kier "Interesting" Starmer gets the nod
> at the next election, we can look for a lot more where the RMT came from.

Yet, to my knowledge, Starmer has never endorsed the rail unions'
strikes. So yes, it will be interesting.

[Joe]

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 07:19:16 +0000
The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:


> Whether Scargill actually destroyed the coal industry is moot. But he
> certainly didn't help it survive, any more than the unionised car
> industry was going to survive.
>

Have a look at this graph and decide how much he had to do with it:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1125925/historic-coal-production-in-the-united-kingdom/

We just happened to be around at the end.

--
Joe

[Tim Streater]

That's a s may be. But nominally they are planning a number of "reforms" which
will probably make strikes easier.

--
Bessie Braddock: "Winston, you are drunk!"
Churchill: "And you, madam, are ugly. But I shall be sober in the morning."

[SteveW]

And the trains may once again become pre-eminent ... if the roads are
allowed to continue to disintegrate and become unusable!

[SteveW]

On 18/02/2024 09:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 18/02/2024 07:59, Andy Burns wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> I believe the future of the rail network is in a driverless freight
>>> trains with bar coded containers sorted by computers.
>>
>> Railways in the UK and USA were experimenting with barcodes to track
>> rolling-stock from the 50s/60s, e.g.
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KarTrak>
> Not much use without scanners and computers though.

Barcoding would have tied in very nicely with BR's computerised TOPs of
the late '60s.

These days RFID tags would make more sense.

[SteveW]

Indeed. The decline also meant that far more pits were closed under
Labour than under the Tories.