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John

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Jun 27, 2007, 3:44:28 AM6/27/07
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Due to a minor scuff I need to touch-up the bumper of my Honda Civic (2002).
The area involved is less that a 5p coin. Today I saw some 3 part kits in
Halfords (but my colour was out of stock). I have a nagging memory that
plastic bumpers need a special preparation. Can someone enlighten me please
as I don't want to buy stuff that then won't be suitable.

Incidentally I was quoted £88 by body shop that claims to specialise in
minor chip repairs.

The car is silver and the exposed black bumper material is standing out like
a sore thumb and I am hoping to p/x or sell the car soon.
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:Jerry:

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Jun 27, 2007, 3:57:15 AM6/27/07
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"John" <Trainin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Due to a minor scuff I need to touch-up the bumper of my Honda Civic
> (2002).
> The area involved is less that a 5p coin. Today I saw some 3 part
> kits in
> Halfords (but my colour was out of stock).

Your 'colour' will always be out of stock, you might be unlucky in
finding something that looks close...

I have a nagging memory that
> plastic bumpers need a special preparation. Can someone enlighten me
> please
> as I don't want to buy stuff that then won't be suitable.

Yes, you will need a special plastic 'primer'.

>
> Incidentally I was quoted £88 by body shop that claims to specialise
> in
> minor chip repairs.

Sounds like they are quoting to re-spray the bumper, probably the best
solution - spot repairs seldom work on metallic paint due to the way
the paint / metallic particles need to flow in the correct direction
to each other, never mind the issues of old paint and new...

>
> The car is silver and the exposed black bumper material is standing
> out like
> a sore thumb and I am hoping to p/x or sell the car soon.

Everyone says that when they don't want to spend money on the correct
/ proper repair and want a bodge, do it wrong and your repair could be
far more noticeable than the original damage!


LSR

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Jun 27, 2007, 5:20:50 AM6/27/07
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>> John

Could you glue on some fake "reversing sensors" and hide the damage?
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:Jerry:

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Jun 27, 2007, 5:38:26 AM6/27/07
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"LSR" <nos...@easily.net> wrote in message
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> John wrote:
<snip>

>>
>> The car is silver and the exposed black bumper material is standing
>> out like a sore thumb and I am hoping to p/x or sell the car soon.
>>
> Could you glue on some fake "reversing sensors" and hide the damage?

LOL, considering that most scuffed and damaged bumpers I see are on or
near the corner, also not a lot of help if it's a front bumper!...


The Natural Philosopher

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Jun 27, 2007, 5:38:54 AM6/27/07
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Plastic does need a special etch primer..if using most paints.

If you have a GOOD model shop near you get some PRYMOL..its a solvent
and a something that evaporates faster than you can say 'Blair is a
liar' and leaves a matt surface that paint keys to well.

Ive looked in Halfords for similar, but all they seem to have is
degreasing, not etching stuff.

The reason that you have been quoted 80 quid, is that the only pro
approach is to remove he bumper (or at least mask it off entirely) sand
and smooth the scuff, and respray the lot, probably with a primer/base
coat, color coat and clear lacquer, after doing the etch thing on the
bare patch.
.

LSR

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Jun 27, 2007, 6:08:55 AM6/27/07
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Well OK - "parking sensor" then.

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:Jerry:

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Jun 27, 2007, 6:21:35 AM6/27/07
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"LSR" <nos...@easily.net> wrote in message
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...and how many "Parking sensors" do you see on the sides or on front
bumpers - unless the car is owned by Stevie Wonder of course?!...

Stop digging, in any case ANY trader and most car buyers will see
straight through such an obvious bodge.


Dave Plowman (News)

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Jun 27, 2007, 6:13:03 AM6/27/07
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In article <11829372...@proxy02.news.clara.net>,

The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:
> The reason that you have been quoted 80 quid, is that the only pro
> approach is to remove he bumper (or at least mask it off entirely) sand
> and smooth the scuff, and respray the lot, probably with a primer/base
> coat, color coat and clear lacquer, after doing the etch thing on the
> bare patch.

You'll not get an entire bumper resprayed in metallic for 80 quid. More
like 300.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Jun 27, 2007, 8:13:43 AM6/27/07
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In article <46823a3e$0$97242$892e...@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,

:Jerry: <INV...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:
> ...and how many "Parking sensors" do you see on the sides or on front
> bumpers - unless the car is owned by Stevie Wonder of course?!...

Front parking sensors are fairly common these days. And the bit most
likely to be scruffed - the corner - does often have sensors.

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John

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Jun 27, 2007, 8:14:03 AM6/27/07
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
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My quote was just to spray the corner area of the bumper.


Dave Plowman (News)

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Jun 27, 2007, 8:41:43 AM6/27/07
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In article <fwsgi.7472$_14....@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>,
John <Trainin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Dave Plowman (News)" <da...@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4ef9775...@davenoise.co.uk...
> > In article <11829372...@proxy02.news.clara.net>,
> > The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:
> >> The reason that you have been quoted 80 quid, is that the only pro
> >> approach is to remove he bumper (or at least mask it off entirely)
> >> sand and smooth the scuff, and respray the lot, probably with a
> >> primer/base coat, color coat and clear lacquer, after doing the etch
> >> thing on the bare patch.
> >
> > You'll not get an entire bumper resprayed in metallic for 80 quid. More
> > like 300.

> My quote was just to spray the corner area of the bumper.

To me that would be a fair price for an genuinely invisible repair. It's
most unlikely you'll be able to do this yourself using aerosols, etc.

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dmc

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Jun 27, 2007, 9:05:31 AM6/27/07
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In article <46823a3e$0$97242$892e...@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>,
:Jerry: <INV...@INVALID.INVALID> wrote:

>...and how many "Parking sensors" do you see on the sides or on front
>bumpers - unless the car is owned by Stevie Wonder of course?!...

Quite frequently these days...

Darren

raden

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Jun 27, 2007, 3:08:53 PM6/27/07
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In message <wzogi.15133$3j1....@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>, John
<Trainin...@gmail.com> writes


Get a bumper sticker for a quid


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John Laird

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Jun 28, 2007, 3:44:21 PM6/28/07
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On Jun 27, 8:08 pm, raden <r...@kateda.org> wrote:
> In message <wzogi.15133$3j1.11...@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>, John
> <Training.JPl...@gmail.com> writes

>
> >Due to a minor scuff I need to touch-up the bumper of my Honda Civic (2002).
> >The area involved is less that a 5p coin. Today I saw some 3 part kits in
> >Halfords (but my colour was out of stock). I have a nagging memory that
> >plastic bumpers need a special preparation. Can someone enlighten me please
> >as I don't want to buy stuff that then won't be suitable.
>
> >Incidentally I was quoted £88 by body shop that claims to specialise in
> >minor chip repairs.
>
> >The car is silver and the exposed black bumper material is standing out like
> >a sore thumb and I am hoping to p/x or sell the car soon.
>
> Get a bumper sticker for a quid

:-)

A 5p coin-sized area is very small. Nearly all cars of that age have
some sort of paint damage or minor dents, so I'd be surprised if it
was really necessary to get a "proper" job done. Sod's law says that
another scuff on the same bumper will be collected within a month of
spending a small fortune on a respray. I'd invest a few quid in a
small tube of touch-up paint from Honda and put a couple of coats on.
No-one but the diy-er will pay any attention (true of many diy
"imperfections").

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:Jerry:

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Jun 28, 2007, 4:18:41 PM6/28/07
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"John Laird" <lai...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]
<snip>

A 5p coin-sized area is very small. Nearly all cars of that age have
some sort of paint damage or minor dents, so I'd be surprised if it
was really necessary to get a "proper" job done. Sod's law says that
another scuff on the same bumper will be collected within a month of
spending a small fortune on a respray. I'd invest a few quid in a
small tube of touch-up paint from Honda and put a couple of coats on.
No-one but the diy-er will pay any attention (true of many diy
"imperfections").

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"Dain Bramaged."
[/quote]

More like Brain Damaged, too true...

Why bother doing the above when it *will* look ten times worse that
the scuff it's attempting to hide, new poorly matched patch repairs
always look worse than the damage they were meant to mend.


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