Well OT - sparkling water shortage?

[David]

Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.

Is this localised, or country wide?

Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.

Cheers



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[Andy Burns]

David wrote:

> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
> Is this localised, or country wide?

Did you look at the other shelves? Huge bare patches, seems to vary
from day to day what's missing though, pingdemic affecting
delivery/stacking staff presumably?

[The Nomad]

On Tue, 03 Aug 2021 13:04:40 +0100, Andy Burns <use...@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

Also apparently shortage of CO2 (& that other thing ...)

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[R D S]

On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:
> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>
> Is this localised, or country wide?

We've been having a Problem in E Lancs, though there was plenty in
Chorley Lidl the other day.

> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>

Yes, It pains me to some degree.
At the beginning of lockdown I had the hump because it was being
rationed in the supermarkets then I remembered how billions of people
live and it made me feel like an arsehole.


Like the way I like to bathe in hot potable water. But that said we're
surrounded by it and it's constantly pissing from the sky.

[SH]

On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:

> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>
> Is this localised, or country wide?
>
> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Dave R
>
>

just get yourself a sodastream system and carbonate some tap water......?

Or buy some edible glitter and sprinkle in a glass of tap water? it will
then sparkle

[newshound]

+1. And quite often the same (non-seasonal) stuff short in all my local
ones (Tesco, Lidl, Sainsburys). Lacto Free and Cranberry juice at the
moment, two of my wife's key beverages.

[GB]

I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned Brexit, which would prolong this
thread no end.


Ooops!

[Peter Able]

On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:

> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>
> Is this localised, or country wide?
>
> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Dave R
>
>

This is the norm, surely? For quite a few years Tesco has dropped their
fizzy drinks - particularly the cheaper lines - during the summer. Just
not enough return to be made versus the physical volume of the products.

Add to that the regular shortage of CO2 - and the lack of HGV drivers.

The only d-i-y aspect is that we've anticipated and stocked up - as usual.

PA

[Theo]

GB <NOTso...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned Brexit, which would prolong this
> thread no end.

https://orynski.eu/20-reasons-why-there-is-shortage-of-drivers-in-the-uk/

[soup]

On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:

> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>
> Is this localised, or country wide?
>
> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.

I have never seen the upside of buying bottled water .

Mind you I live on the west side of Edinburgh Scotland . The reservoir
is about a mile from my house and Scotland is renowned for having good
drinking water.

[Andy Burns]

GB wrote:

> I'm amazed that nobody has mentioned Brexit, which would prolong this
> thread no end.

Well, you have now! But why brexit should suddenly start affecting
supermarket stock levels after 6 or 18 months depending how you view it?

[tim...]

"soup" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:sebfne$g9n$2...@dont-email.me...

> On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:
>> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>>
>> Is this localised, or country wide?
>>
>> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>
> I have never seen the upside of buying bottled water .

you would if you were brought up in an area of hard water and then moved to
an area with soft

Tap water is literally undrinkable

(I imagine the reverse is also true, but I've never come across bottled
water that is soft)

[tim...]

"Andy Burns" <use...@andyburns.uk> wrote in message
news:imt28o...@mid.individual.net...

well it might be because of the shortage of lorry drivers

but ATM I think the effect of "pingdemic" is an order of magnitude worse
here.

Hopefully the new T&T isolation rules will cause that problem to go away
over the coming months

[charles]

In article <sebkt5$qdi$1...@dont-email.me>, tim... <timsn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I would expect "Highland Spring" to be soft, "Buxton" isn't

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[Andy Burns]

tim... wrote:

> Hopefully the new T&T isolation rules will cause that problem to go away
> over the coming months

If double-jabbed will be good enough from the 16th to avoid having to
self-immolate, then why isn't it good enough today? They seem to be
saying "we want to encourage people to get jabbed", well allowing them
to not isolate is surely a huge incentive?

I'm beginning to wonder if we'll ever get to 90% 1st jab, seems down to
a trickle now, was 88.0% on july 23rd still only 88.7% today, we were
doing over 1% a day before ...

[nightjar]

On 03/08/2021 13:12, Peter Able wrote:
...

> This is the norm, surely?  For quite a few years Tesco has dropped their
> fizzy drinks - particularly the cheaper lines - during the summer.  Just
> not enough return to be made versus the physical volume of the products.

Not that I've noticed. Tesco today had space on their shelves for lots
of fizzy drinks, just not many of them in the spces.

> Add to that the regular shortage of CO2 - and the lack of HGV drivers...

You don't need CO2 for naturally carbonated water, but many of those
come from Europe and the driver shortage will affect those.


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[S Viemeister]

I used to buy bottled water, when the local supply came from a very
peaty lochan.

[Andrew]

On 03/08/2021 16:10, charles wrote:
> In article <sebkt5$qdi$1...@dont-email.me>, tim... <timsn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> "soup" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:sebfne$g9n$2...@dont-email.me...
>>> On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:
>>>> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>>>>
>>>> Is this localised, or country wide?
>>>>
>>>> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>>>
>>> I have never seen the upside of buying bottled water .
>
>> you would if you were brought up in an area of hard water and then moved
>> to an area with soft
>
>> Tap water is literally undrinkable
>
>> (I imagine the reverse is also true, but I've never come across bottled
>> water that is soft)
>
> I would expect "Highland Spring" to be soft, "Buxton" isn't
>

Less chance of a heart attack in hard water areas though

[charles]

In article <sebu57$15up$1...@gioia.aioe.org>, Andrew

Ah! fine by me, we have very hard water

[ARW]

On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:

> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>
> Is this localised, or country wide?
>
> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>

I thought that is the water that all people with good taste drunk:-)

Not much in the Aldi today. But then you could have asked the same
question 7 years ago and got the same answer depending on what day of
the week it was.

My local Aldi has spent the last 7 years running out of basics on a day
to day rota.

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[John]

On 3 Aug 2021 12:01:10 GMT, David <wib...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>
> Is this localised, or country wide?
>
> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>
> Cheers

Surely part of the problem is that water is a high weight, high
volume, low value product with a long shelf life.

If, for whatever reason, there is a shortage in some part of the
system of getting products onto the shelves then it makes sense to
concentrate on mmore perishable, higher value, products.

>
>
>
> Dave R
>
>
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[Brian Gaff (Sofa)]

Is not this what Sparklets soda siphons were for, putting co2 into water? Or
is co2 to be avoided at all costs. grin.
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[Reentrant]

On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:

> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>
> Is this localised, or country wide?
>
> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Dave R
>
>

Didn't this happen last summer too? The explanation was that food-grade
CO2 is a byproduct of ammonia manufacture, and the plants usually close
in summer for annual maintenence as there's no demand for ammonuim
nitrate agricultural fertiliser.

Anyway, we have a Qooker Cube.

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[Bob Eager]

On Wed, 04 Aug 2021 07:26:40 +0100, Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) wrote:

> Is not this what Sparklets soda siphons were for, putting co2 into
> water?

The modern equivalent is the SodaStream, and that was mentioned.

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[R D S]

On 04/08/2021 07:26, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
> Is not this what Sparklets soda siphons were for, putting co2 into water? Or
> is co2 to be avoided at all costs. grin.

We had a Soda Stream until a few years ago when it became difficult to
get the cartridges.

Just ordered another and it's been delivered today. Should drastically
cut down on our plastic waste, that's been bothering me for some time.

[R D S]

On 03/08/2021 16:13, Andy Burns wrote:
> tim... wrote:
>
>> Hopefully the new T&T isolation rules will cause that problem to go
>> away over the coming months
>
> If double-jabbed will be good enough from the 16th to avoid having to
> self-immolate, then why isn't it good enough today?  They seem to be
> saying "we want to encourage people to get jabbed", well allowing them
> to not isolate is surely a huge incentive?
>

I read (i've not fact checked it) that Australians might get offered
free lottery entries if they get the jab.

[JNugent]

On 03/08/2021 03:47 pm, tim... wrote:
>
>
> "soup" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:sebfne$g9n$2...@dont-email.me...
>> On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:
>>> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>>>
>>> Is this localised, or country wide?
>>>
>>> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>>
>> I have never seen the upside of buying bottled water .
>
> you would if you were brought up in an area of hard water and then moved
> to an area with soft

In my case, it was the other way round. Liverpool has famously soft
water (the main reservoir is at "Lake" Vyrnwy).

The first time I ever rinsed my hands under a cold tap in London, the
water felt like iron filings.

[JNugent]

Doesn't their range depend (largely) on what they can get cheap from
time to time?

[ARW]

Possibly. But for general crap it's OK.

A Lidl opened up near me just before Covid and I find many of their
products better than Aldi.

However I have a cat that only likes Aldi cat food and can eat 6 pouches
a day.

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[Peter Able]

On 04/08/2021 06:32, John wrote:
> On 3 Aug 2021 12:01:10 GMT, David <wib...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>>
>> Is this localised, or country wide?
>>
>> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>>
>> Cheers
>
> Surely part of the problem is that water is a high weight, high
> volume, low value product with a long shelf life.
>
> If, for whatever reason, there is a shortage in some part of the
> system of getting products onto the shelves then it makes sense to
> concentrate on mmore perishable, higher value, products.
>

As I told him yesterday. ;-}

PA

[SH]

> However I have a cat that only likes Aldi cat food and can eat 6 pouches
> a day.
>
> --
>
> Adam

6 pouches daily????

my cat has 1 pouch in the morning and then dried food in the evening....

[Max Demian]

On 04/08/2021 15:33, R D S wrote:
> On 04/08/2021 07:26, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

>> Is not this what Sparklets soda siphons were for, putting co2 into
>> water? Or
>> is co2 to be avoided at all costs. grin.
>
> We had a Soda Stream until a few years ago when it became difficult to
> get the cartridges.

I used to have a SodaStream, and some shops got really confused when I
bought the CO2 cylinders, as they had two bar codes on them, one for
exchange and the other for new. Sometimes the exchange one coded for the
exchange price (about £3), sometimes the difference with the new price
and the exchange; some shops added it rather than subtracting it until I
pointed out their error.

It was quite useful as I didn't have to cart the water from the shop as
it came out of the tap. Eventually it broke, and, though I could have
got a replacement cheaply, using the same cylinders and bottles, I
chucked the whole lot away. Bought fizzy drinks from supermarkets are
probably cheaper anyway.

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[tim...]

"charles" <cha...@candehope.me.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <sebkt5$qdi$1...@dont-email.me>, tim... <timsn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> "soup" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:sebfne$g9n$2...@dont-email.me...
>> > On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:
>> >> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>> >>
>> >> Is this localised, or country wide?
>> >>
>> >> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>> >
>> > I have never seen the upside of buying bottled water .
>
>> you would if you were brought up in an area of hard water and then moved
>> to an area with soft
>
>> Tap water is literally undrinkable
>
>> (I imagine the reverse is also true, but I've never come across bottled
>> water that is soft)
>
> I would expect "Highland Spring" to be soft,

though that'll only be a relative soft

I'm pretty sure that I have been served highland spring on a airline

it wasn't "Manchester" undrinkable

[Steve Walker]

On 05/08/2021 12:29, Tim Streater wrote:

> On 04 Aug 2021 at 15:33:57 BST, R D S <rsa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 04/08/2021 07:26, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
>>> Is not this what Sparklets soda siphons were for, putting co2 into water? Or
>>> is co2 to be avoided at all costs. grin.
>>
>> We had a Soda Stream until a few years ago when it became difficult to
>> get the cartridges.
>

> Too much of a faff.

You can actually buy domestic taps that can output carbonated water.
Unfortunately, the taps are expensive and the CO2 bottles work out far
more expensive than just buying bottled, sparking water!

[ARW]

Two in a morning or I do not get out of the house alive, two when I get
in from work to stop my legs from getting scratched to bits.

I leave dried food down after his second morning pouch when I leave for
work and more dried food after his second evening meal.

At a weekend he demands extra pouches throughout the day.

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[ARW]

On 04/08/2021 22:07, Tim Streater wrote:

> On 04 Aug 2021 at 21:53:47 BST, SH <i.lov...@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>> However I have a cat that only likes Aldi cat food and can eat 6 pouches
>>> a day.
>>

>> 6 pouches daily????
>>
>> my cat has 1 pouch in the morning and then dried food in the evening....
>

> My cat only eats dried food. Oh, and fresh mouse, too.
>

I always know as he leaves the tail:-)

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[Andrew]

Perhaps you need to get the lesbian nearby to give him a worm pill ?

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Why does it need a lesbian?

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[SH]

On 05/08/2021 18:19, ARW wrote:

After all that, you must have a huge pussy!

[alan_m]

If the Government was serious about climate change and CO2 shouldn't
they be banning fizzy drinks?

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and fermentation?

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And exhalation.

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[Andrew]

Adam says she is expert at worming a cat

[Andy Burns]

tim... wrote:

> well it might be because of the shortage of lorry drivers

I see they're to be allowed 11 hours per shift on their tacho as of
monday ... or to reduce their rest periods between shifts, but not both.

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:
> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>
> Is this localised, or country wide?
>
> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>

> Cheers
>

No one is burning fossil fuel so there is no carbon dioxide to go in the
bottles

:0-)
>
>
> Dave R
>
>


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[The Natural Philosopher]

On 03/08/2021 15:47, tim... wrote:
> you would if you were brought up in an area of hard water and then moved
> to an area with soft
>
> Tap water is literally undrinkable

which one? I find hard water less drinkable than soft

>
> (I imagine the reverse is also true, but I've never come across bottled
> water that is soft)

I've never come across it as hard

Mineral water has many minerals in it, but calcium bicarbonate is not
one of them

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[Muddymike]

On 03/08/2021 13:01, David wrote:
> Recently there has been no sparkling water in any of the supermarkets.
>
> Is this localised, or country wide?
>
> Assuming that anyone else buys sparkling water, of course.
>

Due to delivery driver shortage supermarkets central warehouse only
distributing things we actually need to but. Water inst one of them as
we all have a tap!

Mike

[Steve Walker]

They're still distributing cakes, bread, etc., which we can all make
ourselves, but not sparkling water which most of us can't.

And no, I am not really being serious about that.

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<st...@walker-family.me.uk> writes

Yesterday, one LBC in-phoner was adamant that in the event of essential
shortages we could make many things at home. He gave bread as an
example, as he already made it himself. I guess he was totally
overlooking the possibility of a shortage of flour.
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[charles]

In article <wBarlzBh...@brattleho.plus.com>,

which, of course, there was last year

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[ARW]

I prefer the name chunky

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The sloppy pussy is in Hull waiting for me on Monday when I finish the
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[Steve Walker]

Yes and no. There was a shortage of flour in the shops, but no actual
shortage of flour.

Something like 96% of flour is bulk delivered to factories or delivered
to smaller bakeries, restaurants, etc. in large packs/sacks.

As businesses closed down and home baking grew, there simply wasn't the
capacity to manufacture and fill sufficient small packages to meet demand.

[SH]

Which one is Toby?

[tim...]

"Steve Walker" <st...@walker-family.me.uk> wrote in message
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sorry don't get your logic

To make bread, cakes etc, I have to go to shop to buy raw ingredients, mix
them up using some kitchen tools and cook with a piece of kitchen equipment

to make sparkling water I have to go to shop to buy raw ingredients and then
mix them up using a piece of kitchen equipment

I don't quite see how the latter requires more skill/effort/equipment on my
part than the former does.

FTAOD I don't make cakes because I don't have the necessary skills/equipment
even if I were prepared to put in the necessary effort.

[Steve Walker]

The point was that people were saying that supermarkets were
concentrating on deliveries of essentials - which cakes, etc. aren't -
and bread is easily made.

It is not so easy to make sparkling water, without buying extra
equipment (not necessarily cheap), at home. So while sparkling water is
definitely not an essential, there is an argument that it doesn't make
sense to prioritise cakes over it.

[Robin]

On 12/08/2021 12:54, Steve Walker wrote:

> The point was that people were saying that supermarkets were
> concentrating on deliveries of essentials - which cakes, etc. aren't -
> and bread is easily made.
>

Bread is not easily made by all. There are plenty of people unable to
mix and knead it, and too poor to buy a stand mixer or bread maker even
if they could use one of those.

[AVB]

Has been difficult to get for weeks in my area, especially the usual 17p for 2l bottles in Tesco - some premium brands around of course! Just read about shortages in the Grocer magazine - but that was dated 25th June, same shortages nearly two months later…

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[nightjar]

On 22/08/2021 17:45, AVB wrote:
> Has been difficult to get for weeks in my area, especially the usual 17p
> for 2l bottles in Tesco - some premium brands around of course! Just
> read about shortages in the Grocer magazine - but that was dated 25th
> June, same shortages nearly two months later…
>

I recently saw a statement from a group of supermarkets. They said the
problem was the shortage of drivers, which means they have to
prioritised what goes on the lorries. Sparking drinks are not a high
priority, so only get on if there is space left after putting higher
priority items on the lorry.

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[ARW]

Murdered prostitutes?(again)

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