Velux window stuck

Nick Odell

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Mar 31, 2021, 6:50:40 PM3/31/21

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The Velux window in my attic got stuck in the almost-closed position.
It seems immovable because one of the locking pins is jammed behind
the strike plate. Is there a trick to releasing the catches or am I
going to have to saw though the metal pins and fit new locks?

In case it's relevant: the window hadn't been opened for over a year
and yesterday I decided to give it a spring clean, vacuum out all the
crud etc. It was a bit stiff (okay, very stiff) after not having been
used for all that time and when I pushed it up to lock it back again,
it didn't quite go all the way. That's when I saw the state of the
pins.

I don't know the model number: I think the label with the details is
on the bit of the frame I can't access but it is a completely manual
operation with two window catches - one of which looks as if it might
have closed correctly and one which definitely has not.

Any suggestions before I get out my padsaw?

Thanks,

Nick

Nick Odell

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Apr 2, 2021, 1:51:28 PM4/2/21

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<fx:Tumbleweed blows down Main Street....>

So: have I really stumped the panel with this one?[1]

Or is Eternal September not propagating again?

Or am I in everybody's kill file?

If anyone has any ideas (apart from taking the roof off to get at it)
I'd be really keen to hear about them before I do any damage.

Thanks,

Nick
[1]I checked the Wiki (thank you John!!!) and couldn't find anything
there either.

Tim+

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Apr 2, 2021, 3:01:05 PM4/2/21

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Nick Odell <ni...@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 23:50:36 +0100, Nick Odell
> <ni...@themusicworkshop.plus.com> wrote:
>
>> The Velux window in my attic got stuck in the almost-closed position.
>> It seems immovable because one of the locking pins is jammed behind
>> the strike plate. Is there a trick to releasing the catches or am I
>> going to have to saw though the metal pins and fit new locks?
>>
>> In case it's relevant: the window hadn't been opened for over a year
>> and yesterday I decided to give it a spring clean, vacuum out all the
>> crud etc. It was a bit stiff (okay, very stiff) after not having been
>> used for all that time and when I pushed it up to lock it back again,
>> it didn't quite go all the way. That's when I saw the state of the
>> pins.
>>
>> I don't know the model number: I think the label with the details is
>> on the bit of the frame I can't access but it is a completely manual
>> operation with two window catches - one of which looks as if it might
>> have closed correctly and one which definitely has not.
>>
>> Any suggestions before I get out my padsaw?
>>
> <fx:Tumbleweed blows down Main Street....>
>
> So: have I really stumped the panel with this one?[1]

I suspect that without pictures is just rather hard for anyone to be in a
better position than yourself to work out what’s needed.

Tim

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Fredxx

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Apr 2, 2021, 3:46:18 PM4/2/21

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It's such a long time ago I played with a Velux window I really can't
help. I seem to recall that virtually everything is inaccessible when
closed.

Are there any diagrams on the Velux website to give a clue?

Thomas Prufer

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Apr 6, 2021, 3:39:59 AM4/6/21

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On Fri, 02 Apr 2021 18:51:23 +0100, Nick Odell <ni...@themusicworkshop.plus.com>
wrote:

><fx:Tumbleweed blows down Main Street....>
>
>So: have I really stumped the panel with this one?[1]
>
>Or is Eternal September not propagating again?
>
>Or am I in everybody's kill file?

Stumped, I guess.

I looked on the German site of Velux, on the assumption that it might have
different information than the site you looked at. German DIY forums no help,
either...

The site requires the model number, or model and year, and includes detailed
instructions on where to find this information -- right there on the edge of the
frame...

Can you loop a wire over the pin and yank it down/free?

(I'm assuming a width-of-window thing that folds down, opening an air vent...)

Thomas Prufer

Andy Burns

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Apr 6, 2021, 3:43:53 AM4/6/21

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Thomas Prufer wrote:

> Nick Odell wrote:
>
>> So: have I really stumped the panel with this one?[1]
>

> Stumped, I guess.

I overlooked the original ... WD40 and a bendy straw?

Andrew

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Apr 6, 2021, 9:07:55 AM4/6/21

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On 02/04/2021 18:51, Nick Odell wrote:

I'm sure this thread didn't appear for me until well after 31/3,
which is strange.

Adrian Caspersz

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Apr 6, 2021, 9:34:36 AM4/6/21

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Pliers and an allen key?

How to open a broken uPVC window lock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8leMv6ibo4

Nick, is there a video already on youtube, or an image somewhere that
shows what these pins / strike plate look like?

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Adrian C

Nick Odell

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Apr 6, 2021, 2:39:43 PM4/6/21

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This video shows the type of fitting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvlF9hAAwNc

It's a centre-pivot window. Mine has two locking plates, one on each
side at the top, but the window is not the type which you may see in
other videos where the push-rod just snaps off with the help of a
tool: mine needs to be unscrewed like the one in this vid.

I can't find a picture of my actual striking plate but it is an older,
metal version of this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284155837983 for
pre-2014 windows. I think all the replacements - both the new design
and the old - are made of plastic nowadays.

Essentially, the locking pins seem to be guided between the two
channels in the strike plate and snap into a locked position until the
handle is used to snap it back out again. It looks as if there is too
much clearance between the window and the frame and - combined with
wear on the pins and the guides - it has enabled the pins to get stuck
behind the strike plate.

I think I'm going to try and make up a low-profile right-angled
screwdriver and try to remove the ventilation panel but suggestions
about how to proceed afterwards - or any other suggestions - are
always welcome!

Thanks,

Nick