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AL_n

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Jul 27, 2015, 5:00:54 AM7/27/15
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In the past, I have mixed white and magnolia together to achieve a colour
that I find preferable to pure magnolia. It was roughly half-way between
white and magnolia on the tonal scale. Unfortunately, I can't remember the
ratio of white:magnolia. I have a feeling it was not as simple as 50:50,
becasue the two different pignemts have vastly different tinting power.

Has anone done the same and can you give me an idea of the proportion of
white to magnolia to get something that is darker than off-white, but
conasiderably lighter than standard magnolia?

TIA

Al
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Martin Brown

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Jul 27, 2015, 5:38:52 AM7/27/15
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You are already half way to the madhouse with this procedure. Even if
you used exactly the same mix as before fading of the original paint in
sunlight and batch to batch variation will make it very hard to match.

Beware that most paints dry to a different colour than when wet.

All you can do is make up a range of tints at known dilutions and pick
the closest. Same trick works for matching old mortar in masonry.

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Muddymike

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Jul 27, 2015, 5:45:02 AM7/27/15
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>How long is a piece of string?
>
>Make up some very small batches using teaspoon or similar measures:
>1tsp. white : 1tsp. Magnolia; 2tsp. white : 1 tsp. magnolia etc.
>you get the idea.
>

Almost my thoughts but I would use a little larger measure. One of those
little scoops that come with plant feed for instance.

Mike

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Jul 27, 2015, 6:32:25 AM7/27/15
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On Monday, 27 July 2015 10:00:54 UTC+1, AL_n wrote:
> In the past, I have mixed white and magnolia together to achieve a colour
> that I find preferable to pure magnolia. It was roughly half-way between
> white and magnolia on the tonal scale. Unfortunately, I can't remember the
> ratio of white:magnolia.

Take a chip to one of the paint matching counters and get it mixed to match.

Owain

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Jul 27, 2015, 6:33:28 AM7/27/15
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On 27/07/2015 10:45, Muddymike wrote:
> On 27 Jul 2015 09:00:51 GMT, "AL_n" <fgdf...@fghfghfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> In the past, I have mixed white and magnolia together to achieve a
>>> colour
>>> that I find preferable to pure magnolia. It was roughly half-way between
>>> white and magnolia on the tonal scale. Unfortunately, I can't
>>> remember the
>>> ratio of white:magnolia. I have a feeling it was not as simple as 50:50,
>>> becasue the two different pignemts have vastly different tinting power.
>>>
>>> Has anone done the same and can you give me an idea of the proportion of
>>> white to magnolia to get something that is darker than off-white, but
>>> conasiderably lighter than standard magnolia?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Al
>>
>> How long is a piece of string?
>>
>> Make up some very small batches using teaspoon or similar measures:
>> 1tsp. white : 1tsp. Magnolia; 2tsp. white : 1 tsp. magnolia etc.
>> you get the idea.
>>
>
> Almost my thoughts

And mine, including the rhetorical question!

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Jul 27, 2015, 7:08:53 AM7/27/15
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On Monday, 27 July 2015 10:00:54 UTC+1, AL_n wrote:

Sure, any proportion you like. There really is no other answer to such a vague question, and its not one that can really be unvagued. The change of colour on drying really slows things down.


NT

AL_n

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Jul 27, 2015, 10:00:45 AM7/27/15
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spuorg...@gowanhill.com wrote in
news:c95b4ade-0a33-4d8d...@googlegroups.com:

>> In the past, I have mixed white and magnolia together to achieve a
>> colour that I find preferable to pure magnolia. It was roughly
>> half-way between white and magnolia on the tonal scale.
>> Unfortunately, I can't remember the ratio of white:magnolia.
>
> Take a chip to one of the paint matching counters and get it mixed to
> match.
>
> Owain
>

Thanks, but I don;t ned to match an existing colour. I just want to mix a
colour that's about half way between white and magnolia. I have a vegue
recollection that usin a 50:50 mix gave surprisingly unexpected results: it
was eithe too close to magnolia or too close to white; I don't remember.

No worries - I shall have to 'spearmint'! ;-)

Al

AL_n

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Jul 27, 2015, 10:29:11 AM7/27/15
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tabb...@gmail.com wrote in
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> Sure, any proportion you like. There really is no other answer to such
> a vague question, and its not one that can really be unvagued. The
> change of colour on drying really slows things down.

I may have explaind myself badly; I'm just trying to get an idea of the
approx ratio of white to magnolia I should buy to end up with a colour
roughly half way between magnolia and white.

I seem to recall from past experience, that the answer is not as simple as
"mix an equal amount of each" - because the tinting power of each colour is
different. I have a vague I dea that last time I mixed it 50/50, it came
out very close to white or very close to magnolia, but I can't recall
which.

I'm just trying to avoid ending up with a surplus of one colour or the
other, bearing in mind how insanely expensive paint has become these days.

Al

Martin Brown

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Jul 27, 2015, 10:42:01 AM7/27/15
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On 27/07/2015 15:29, AL_n wrote:
> tabb...@gmail.com wrote in
> news:9ccfe9ed-8523-4daa...@googlegroups.com:
>
>> Sure, any proportion you like. There really is no other answer to such
>> a vague question, and its not one that can really be unvagued. The
>> change of colour on drying really slows things down.
>
> I may have explaind myself badly; I'm just trying to get an idea of the
> approx ratio of white to magnolia I should buy to end up with a colour
> roughly half way between magnolia and white.

You are always better off with a factory mixed paint - since it remains
more stable. Mess around and the stuff may have a reduced lifetime.

Even the shop machine mixed products have significantly worse long term
stability than classic factory made paints.
>
> I seem to recall from past experience, that the answer is not as simple as
> "mix an equal amount of each" - because the tinting power of each colour is
> different. I have a vague I dea that last time I mixed it 50/50, it came
> out very close to white or very close to magnolia, but I can't recall
> which.
>
> I'm just trying to avoid ending up with a surplus of one colour or the
> other, bearing in mind how insanely expensive paint has become these days.

In the current era of ten zillion not quite whites on offer from every
maker can you not find one already on a manufacturers paint chart that
is already the right lighter shade of "magnolia" that you seek?

https://www.dulux.co.uk/en/colour-palettes

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Brian-Gaff

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Jul 27, 2015, 11:13:35 AM7/27/15
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Could this be said to be an emulsional experience?
:-)

Brian

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Muddymike

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Jul 27, 2015, 11:58:09 AM7/27/15
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Could this be said to be an emulsional experience?
> :-)
>
>Brian
>

No, No, No. I'll just gloss over that joke!

Mike

Eednud

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Jul 27, 2015, 2:47:54 PM7/27/15
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On 27/07/2015 10:00, AL_n wrote:
There are plenty of off white colours to choose from, just visit one of
the sheds and take your pick.

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AL_n

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Jul 28, 2015, 5:13:02 AM7/28/15
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Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in news:mp5fvl$uja$1
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> the current era of ten zillion not quite whites on offer from every
> maker can you not find one already on a manufacturers paint chart that
> is already the right lighter shade of "magnolia" that you seek?

Thanks, but my rason for wanting to mix my own is because white and
magnolia can both be got a great deal more cheaply than ready-mixed shades.

When I've done it in the past (even mixing different brands together) I've
never experienced any problems during the few years before the room needed
repainting due to natural wear and tear.

Al

Muddymike

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Jul 28, 2015, 5:45:44 AM7/28/15
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STWNFI often does this using trade white or magnolia emulsion and tester
pots. Using a full tester pot to 5 litres produces some pleasant shades, and
is repeatable.

Mike

AL_n

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Jul 28, 2015, 6:06:50 AM7/28/15
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"Muddymike" <mudd...@mattishall.org.uk> wrote in
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>>When I've done it in the past (even mixing different brands together)
>>I've never experienced any problems during the few years before the
>>room needed repainting due to natural wear and tear.
>>
>>Al
>>
>
> STWNFI often does this using trade white or magnolia emulsion and
> tester pots. Using a full tester pot to 5 litres produces some
> pleasant shades, and is repeatable.
>
> Mike

Sounds like a good idea - thanks.

Al

Theo Markettos

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Jul 28, 2015, 1:20:22 PM7/28/15
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AL_n <fgdf...@fghfghfg.com> wrote:
> Has anone done the same and can you give me an idea of the proportion of
> white to magnolia to get something that is darker than off-white, but
> conasiderably lighter than standard magnolia?

As I said in your previous thread, there's no such thing as standardised
magnolia, especially in budget ranges. So your starting colour is variable
and your intended colour is ill-defined - too many variables to suggest
anything really.

Theo

tabb...@gmail.com

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Jul 30, 2015, 5:53:35 AM7/30/15
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and the opacity of each paint is liable to be unmatched... its just a question with no answer. But the OP already heard that.


NT

Alma

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Dec 3, 2016, 8:44:02 PM12/3/16
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replying to AL_n, Alma wrote:
Hello there, what proportion did you come up in the end as I am interested to
do a mix? Thanks!

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Brian Gaff

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Dec 4, 2016, 6:23:50 AM12/4/16
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Once again nobody seems to have read the original posting date. This time
its only just over a year old, but still old. I cannot imagine the poster
waiting this long for a reply. For those interested it is...
. posted on July 27, 2015, 9:00 am
In the past, I have mixed white and magnolia together to achieve a colour
that I find preferable to pure magnolia. It was roughly half-way between
white and magnolia on the tonal scale. Unfortunately, I can't remember the
ratio of white:magnolia. I have a feeling it was not as simple as 50:50,
becasue the two different pignemts have vastly different tinting power.
Has anone done the same and can you give me an idea of the proportion of
white to magnolia to get something that is darker than off-white, but
conasiderably lighter than standard magnolia?


So there it is.
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Josey

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I’m trying the same I don’t want too white or too cream so I’m going to put a few jugs of white and mix and experiment can always go over it

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Fredxx

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On 01/02/2021 18:45, Josey wrote:
> I’m trying the same I don’t want too white or too cream so I’m going to
> put a few jugs of white and mix and experiment can always go over it


I strong recommend you read this before you reply again to to a 5 year
old post:
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Home_owners_hub



Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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Yes could somebody explain to me why these apparently perfectly sighted
people cannot see the dates on the web page over there? For once as a blind
user I seem to have no issue. It may be incorrect of the site to mix years
in this way, where others would lock the tread after no posts in it for a
given time this one mucks it all up, but I can clearly hear dates on the
page. Weird indeed.
Brian

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Rod Speed

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Brian Gaff (Sofa) <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote

> Yes could somebody explain to me why these apparently perfectly sighted
> people cannot see the dates on the web page over there?

It’s a fairly busy page, easy to concentrate on the title and
query text and miss the date even tho its very obvious.

> For once as a blind user I seem to have no issue. It may be incorrect of
> the site to mix years in this way, where others would lock the tread after
> no posts in it for a given time this one mucks it all up, but I can
> clearly hear dates on the page. Weird indeed.

The problem is that it doesn’t sort the messages by date.

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