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How to fix toughened glass to steel frame?
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Nick
Jun 20, 2013, 1:16:40 PM6/20/13
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I've an old single glazed Crittal galvanised steel framed, leaded light,
window. This is used as a door to utility room and garden. Unfortunately one
of our dogs in a fit of excitement has put out one of the panes. On
inspection the entire glazing is generally in poor condition.
The plan is to remove all existing glazing and replace with a single sheet
of 4mm toughened glass. Approx size 1335 x 540mm. Glass fits into a 20mm
(3/4") rebate.
We have a decent glass company locally and I was pleasantly surprised by
their quoted price.
I would prefer to fix glass to frame as easily, and firmly, as possible.
The Crittall frame has some flexibility. I presume that the glass would add
some rigidity.
I have little knowledge of glazing but presume that linseed oil putty is not
the stuff for the job.
The glass company suggested that a bed and beading of silicone (?) would not
be adequate.
The window frame will be removed from hinges for removal of old and fitting
of new.
Any ideas on how to fix the glass to the frame please?
Nick.
window. This is used as a door to utility room and garden. Unfortunately one
of our dogs in a fit of excitement has put out one of the panes. On
inspection the entire glazing is generally in poor condition.
The plan is to remove all existing glazing and replace with a single sheet
of 4mm toughened glass. Approx size 1335 x 540mm. Glass fits into a 20mm
(3/4") rebate.
We have a decent glass company locally and I was pleasantly surprised by
their quoted price.
I would prefer to fix glass to frame as easily, and firmly, as possible.
The Crittall frame has some flexibility. I presume that the glass would add
some rigidity.
I have little knowledge of glazing but presume that linseed oil putty is not
the stuff for the job.
The glass company suggested that a bed and beading of silicone (?) would not
be adequate.
The window frame will be removed from hinges for removal of old and fitting
of new.
Any ideas on how to fix the glass to the frame please?
Nick.
newshound
Jun 20, 2013, 1:32:27 PM6/20/13
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Critalls, although I don't actually see why. I've used ordinary putty
without trouble in the past, because I had it to hand. I'm a bit
bothered by the description of the frame being flexible, in my
experience they are usually very rigid; is there a cracked weld at a
corner somewhere? I don't see why silicone would not work although you
might want to use "spacers" to stop extrusion.
Ivan Dobsky
Jun 20, 2013, 1:55:59 PM6/20/13
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"Nick" <nick...@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I've an old single glazed Crittal galvanised steel framed, leaded light,
> window. This is used as a door to utility room and garden. Unfortunately
> one of our dogs in a fit of excitement has put out one of the panes. On
> inspection the entire glazing is generally in poor condition.
> The plan is to remove all existing glazing and replace with a single sheet
> of 4mm toughened glass. Approx size 1335 x 540mm. Glass fits into a 20mm
> (3/4") rebate.
> We have a decent glass company locally and I was pleasantly surprised by
> their quoted price.
> I would prefer to fix glass to frame as easily, and firmly, as possible.
> The Crittall frame has some flexibility. I presume that the glass would
> add some rigidity.
> I have little knowledge of glazing but presume that linseed oil putty is
> not the stuff for the job.
I expect the putty would be okay once the oil has dried out just leaving
> window. This is used as a door to utility room and garden. Unfortunately
> one of our dogs in a fit of excitement has put out one of the panes. On
> inspection the entire glazing is generally in poor condition.
> The plan is to remove all existing glazing and replace with a single sheet
> of 4mm toughened glass. Approx size 1335 x 540mm. Glass fits into a 20mm
> (3/4") rebate.
> We have a decent glass company locally and I was pleasantly surprised by
> their quoted price.
> I would prefer to fix glass to frame as easily, and firmly, as possible.
> The Crittall frame has some flexibility. I presume that the glass would
> add some rigidity.
> I have little knowledge of glazing but presume that linseed oil putty is
> not the stuff for the job.
mostly chalk.
Peter Percival
Jun 20, 2013, 2:30:35 PM6/20/13
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Nick
Jun 20, 2013, 2:32:25 PM6/20/13
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"newshound" <news...@stevejqr.plus.com> wrote in message
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> On 20/06/2013 18:16, Nick wrote:
>> I've an old single glazed Crittal galvanised steel framed, leaded light,
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>> I've an old single glazed Crittal galvanised steel framed, leaded light,
> ISTR that there was a non linseed oil putty substitute for use with
> Critalls, although I don't actually see why. I've used ordinary putty
> without trouble in the past, because I had it to hand. I'm a bit bothered
> by the description of the frame being flexible, in my experience they are
> usually very rigid; is there a cracked weld at a corner somewhere? I don't
> see why silicone would not work although you might want to use "spacers"
> to stop extrusion.
Thanks for that.
> Critalls, although I don't actually see why. I've used ordinary putty
> without trouble in the past, because I had it to hand. I'm a bit bothered
> by the description of the frame being flexible, in my experience they are
> usually very rigid; is there a cracked weld at a corner somewhere? I don't
> see why silicone would not work although you might want to use "spacers"
> to stop extrusion.
The amount of flexibility is not great. No cracked welds.
It's a fairly large frame and the framing sections are quite small. About 1
x 1 inch, you'll know what I mean.
Flex is diagonal from top right to bottom left and vice versa. I think the
original glazing would have aided the rigidity but that has now failed.
AFAIK this window was installed in 1919, it hasn't done too badly.
It is used every day and probably the most used door in the house.
Says something for the quality of old fashioned British manufacturing
perhaps.
Cash
Jun 20, 2013, 5:07:36 PM6/20/13
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in the frame so take to recover them when you remove the old putty.
Cash
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